Looking for a how to make a "hardline" kit
10-25-2008, 02:17 PM
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Looking for a how to make a "hardline" kit I want to do something slick under my hood and think having some unique postions for the solonoids would be great. I am assuming I will need a smal pipe bender, pipe, and fittings. I know a few people have done it just looking for some sort of writeup on it and the dos/donts of these lines. I am running a plate system if that matters.
10-25-2008, 04:03 PM
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I have also been looking into this as well. From the reading i have done you need a special flare tool to make a 37 degree angle for nitrous applications instead of the standard 45.
10-25-2008, 05:00 PM
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Not true about the flaring tool. I used a normal flaring tool from Sears and mine doesn't leak. BTW, it's a Direct Port.
Just get plenty of extra pieces of tubing and double check your measurements.
Aluminum brake line is a lot easier to work compared to stainless, and you can polish it pretty easy too.
One thing to remember is to check the end of the tube after you make your cut, sometimes the tubing cutter will close up the hole while it's cutting. I used a small drill bit to clean it out after I made each cut.
Also don't forget to slide the tubing nut and ferell onto the line before you get both ends flared.
If you have any sort of mechanical ability and some common sense then you won't have any problems. Make sure to post some pics when it's finished.
Just get plenty of extra pieces of tubing and double check your measurements.
Aluminum brake line is a lot easier to work compared to stainless, and you can polish it pretty easy too.
One thing to remember is to check the end of the tube after you make your cut, sometimes the tubing cutter will close up the hole while it's cutting. I used a small drill bit to clean it out after I made each cut.
Also don't forget to slide the tubing nut and ferell onto the line before you get both ends flared.
If you have any sort of mechanical ability and some common sense then you won't have any problems. Make sure to post some pics when it's finished.
10-26-2008, 02:49 PM
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Thats all great information. So here is the million dollar question. Where do I get the supplies? You mention "Brakeline" but ehat is the size? I will have the tube bender but what is used to flare the ends and after they are flared where do I get the connections. I am sure once you do a few it is gravy I just need a starting point. Thanks again
10-26-2008, 03:54 PM
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I bought the correct 37 degree flare tool and a really good bender on ebay for about $30 and make a template of you bends with wire hanger so you can have a basic idea of what you want befoere you go wasting tubing. Just take your time and I would highly recomend getting the correct 37 degree flare tool
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11-20-2008, 06:52 AM
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3/16" is -3 hard line and 1/4" is -4. I would also reccomend getting the 37 dgree flare tool. All AN fittings come witn a 37 degree flare on them. Ever heard the saying, "use the right tool for the right job"??? This is one of those times you need the right tools.
As stated above, use a hanger to mock up the bends first so you dont waste a ton of tubing. Summit racing has -3 or -4 stainless brake line that would work great for this application. It is cheap, comes in 25' sections and is annealed so it is bent and flared easily. I did all of my brake lines on my swap with this stuff and it turned out fantastic. Ridgid makes a great flare tool but it is about $120.
Let me know if you have more questions. I would be glad to help.
-JZ
As stated above, use a hanger to mock up the bends first so you dont waste a ton of tubing. Summit racing has -3 or -4 stainless brake line that would work great for this application. It is cheap, comes in 25' sections and is annealed so it is bent and flared easily. I did all of my brake lines on my swap with this stuff and it turned out fantastic. Ridgid makes a great flare tool but it is about $120.
Let me know if you have more questions. I would be glad to help.
-JZ
11-20-2008, 08:15 AM
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I dont know about aluminum tubing. You have to remember nitrous is at roughly 1000 psi. I would feel much better about using stainless tubing. STainless is very hard to flare, that is why the summit $30 flare tool will not work. Its one of those things where you want the best tools to provide a great end result. If you were close I would let you use my flare tool.
11-20-2008, 09:35 AM
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For the tighter bends on the -3, I use the NOS tubing bender. For anything higher I have a bender from Imperial. For the flares I use a rol-air 37*. Shoot me over a PM if you need any tips or if you get stuck.
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