View Full Version : 100% Stock Ls1 .. 100 shot ?


87Lt1Monte
01-10-2009, 07:56 PM
My buddy has a stock ls1 and was talking about using just a 100 shot for a little kick . Will the stock injectors be okay? If not what should i get? and will the fuel pump be okay? Im planning on running a dry halo kit from nitrous dave.

aksz71
01-10-2009, 08:09 PM
why dry? wet is better..

FlashWS6
01-10-2009, 08:44 PM
why dry? wet is better..
and it begins :engarde:

Nick@HSW
01-10-2009, 09:07 PM
My buddy has a stock ls1 and was talking about using just a 100 shot for a little kick . Will the stock injectors be okay? If not what should i get? and will the fuel pump be okay? Im planning on running a dry halo kit from nitrous dave.

He 'should' be okay. Upgrading the pump is never a bad idea. What year is the car? Some years have larger injectors stock.

Nick

Nick@HSW
01-10-2009, 09:07 PM
and it begins :engarde:

haha, patiently waiting for Robert56...

Nick

87Lt1Monte
01-10-2009, 10:56 PM
im almost positive it is a 01 firehawk

Ruckus46Gt
01-10-2009, 11:39 PM
fuel pump is fine for a 100 shot. Just swap out plugs and always smart to check the tune. Of course speaking about if you go wet

nevrlift13
01-10-2009, 11:52 PM
100 wet shot will be perfect.

Stock everything.

My lid/muffler and stock everything else car put down 478whp on nitrous.

94-lt1
01-11-2009, 12:36 AM
you put down 478 on a 100 shot thats on a dyno or a guess because that a little high hp for a 100 shot

ALLMOTOR346CI
01-11-2009, 01:00 AM
100 wet shot will be perfect.

Stock everything.

My lid/muffler and stock everything else car put down 478whp on nitrous.


Sorry but i call major BS......:eyes:

jetlag
01-11-2009, 01:04 AM
Sorry but i call major BS......:eyes:

lol..I like his signature.. "BUILT&TUNED BY www.cunningham-motorsports.com"

Doesn't take much building or tuning to add a lid and muffler ;)

ALLMOTOR346CI
01-11-2009, 01:05 AM
lol..I like his signature.. "BUILT&TUNED BY www.cunningham-motorsports.com"

Doesn't take much building or tuning to add a lid and muffler ;)


X2.....:chug:

Ruckus46Gt
01-11-2009, 01:26 AM
100 wet shot will be perfect.

Stock everything.

My lid/muffler and stock everything else car put down 478whp on nitrous.

Think you might have put the worng pills in

lemons12
01-11-2009, 02:00 AM
you will be ok... i wouldnt go any bigger than a 125 though.... you would be pushing it....


as far as 470 something on 100 shot with a lid/muffler.. BS... that means you made 370 something on motor.. :eyes:

streetassasin
01-11-2009, 07:13 AM
He said he did 478 on nitrous not a 100 shot

87Lt1Monte
01-11-2009, 10:14 AM
:hijack: But thanks for all the info fellas. I will let you know how it turns out when its all said and done!

NastyC6
01-11-2009, 12:55 PM
100 dry shot before the MAF will be perfect, it will trick the computer, and pull timing for you. That thing will fly, you will be suprised.

jetlag
01-11-2009, 03:38 PM
100 dry shot before the MAF will be perfect, it will trick the computer, and pull timing for you. That thing will fly, you will be suprised.

Ewww, welcome to 1997.. ;)

5_02ls1
01-12-2009, 12:18 AM
Lmao^^^^^

kdavis
01-12-2009, 03:55 AM
Ewww, welcome to 1997.. ;)

i like doin that way. lol

quickblade
01-12-2009, 02:09 PM
Roberts write up and all made me also go Dry..

I like dry alot better then wet... Less stuff to blow up on a dry hit, compared to wet..

but my car is a 02z28 stock everything except gears..
spray 150 dry hit no problem...

lemons12
01-12-2009, 02:35 PM
So you're ok with the stock injectors? I know you have the bigger of the stock injectors like my 01. I'm guessing you had that tuned. What was the duty cycle and what plugs are you using.

98s had the big injectors...

and you should be fine with those injectors...

me and my buddies all run full H/C cars and spray on average 150 shots...
of course our injectors are on the limit.. but it can be done and done safely..

quickblade
01-12-2009, 06:07 PM
So you're ok with the stock injectors? I know you have the bigger of the stock injectors like my 01. I'm guessing you had that tuned. What was the duty cycle and what plugs are you using.

yes I tuned with HPTuners...
as for the duty cycle.. I believe they were 60....

But I have had no problems spraying the 150 shot... I am not running out of anything... air/fuel is good.. injector duty cycle is good.. But I am going to be getting new ones....
and as for plugs I run TR6'ers.. 93 octane so long as its a certain place that I know their gas is good..
If I am far from the house.. and end up at track I will run with the 108

Mr CHI
01-13-2009, 12:23 AM
My buddy has a stock ls1 and was talking about using just a 100 shot for a little kick ........ Im planning on running a dry halo kit from nitrous dave.

Whoa....You're Going To Be Spraying Your Friends Car?:confused:

You guys must be Pretty Tight.:secret2:

slowpoke96z28
01-15-2009, 02:52 AM
Whoa....You're Going To Be Spraying Your Friends Car?:confused:

You guys must be Pretty Tight.:secret2:

thats the first thing i was wondering. if its his car, why are you "getting" anything? or is this a case of, "my friend has this issue. not ME, but my friend...", lol?

Robert56
01-15-2009, 04:01 AM
I went to 480rwhp over all on stock fuel pump and 28lb injectors all the way to 250rwhp shot on 100% stock long block and about 300 1/4 passes. the 285rwhp shot finally bent a rod and busted a ring land, lol. Oh, and it was all dry passes and before the MAF.

However, the best way to do dry today is to go after the MAF and run the Interface for fueling and timing pull needs. Now with that said, if your set on the HALO, then you still need a way to fine tune fueling and the Interface will work in that regard also for the before the MAF dry hits.

The dry plate and Interface is the best way these days and I have tried them all. Currently have 3-stages dry and 1st is a Direct Port and 2nd and 3rd are the plate and all running the stock PCM. I will post my new set-up when I get a chance.

Good luck to you, and you made the correct choice, IMO, on going dry. Later you can always upgrade to larger injectors when your ready for bigger hits, and that time will come, lol.
Robert

Nitro Dave's Nitrous Outlet
01-16-2009, 01:11 AM
Personally I prefer a wet system but everyone has there own way of doing things.
If I were going dry yes the Halo system is exactly what I would use. Its cost affective and you can not get a better discharge than the Halo ring provides. Normally the airfuel will be pretty close to being dead on.

Now take into full concideration of all things when figuring out what way to go. If all you have is the cost of the Halo system well thats not bad. But not using the Halo and going dry you have the cost of this piggy back controller upgrading injectors and tuning. Now you have a limited system there is not much room to grow with..

I would personally run one of our single nozzle or plate wet systems. Easier to tune. Makes great power and just as safe as any other system tuned properly.
Dave

Nick@HSW
01-16-2009, 10:13 AM
I was patiently waiting for you my friend. Glad to see you made the party.

Nick

I went to 480rwhp over all on stock fuel pump and 28lb injectors all the way to 250rwhp shot on 100% stock long block and about 300 1/4 passes. the 285rwhp shot finally bent a rod and busted a ring land, lol. Oh, and it was all dry passes and before the MAF.

However, the best way to do dry today is to go after the MAF and run the Interface for fueling and timing pull needs. Now with that said, if your set on the HALO, then you still need a way to fine tune fueling and the Interface will work in that regard also for the before the MAF dry hits.

The dry plate and Interface is the best way these days and I have tried them all. Currently have 3-stages dry and 1st is a Direct Port and 2nd and 3rd are the plate and all running the stock PCM. I will post my new set-up when I get a chance.

Good luck to you, and you made the correct choice, IMO, on going dry. Later you can always upgrade to larger injectors when your ready for bigger hits, and that time will come, lol.
Robert

krazy4
01-16-2009, 02:49 PM
100 wet shot will be perfect.

Stock everything.

My lid/muffler and stock everything else car put down 478whp on nitrous.

I posted this under my friends name guys so don't start getting all crazy.

Here is my dyno thread. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/967323-2002-camaro-z28-m6-mild-bolt-ons-spray.html

Also, neverlift13 has a full bolt on and torquer v.2 cammed car with spray. Takes a little bit of building :jest:

MattxFatal
01-16-2009, 07:32 PM
Roberts write up and all made me also go Dry..

I like dry alot better then wet... Less stuff to blow up on a dry hit, compared to wet..

but my car is a 02z28 stock everything except gears..
spray 150 dry hit no problem...

Where can I find said thread?
-Matt

jeepers_88
01-16-2009, 07:46 PM
I ran my first bottle through my HSW wet plate on Sunday, I only have lid and catback, changed the plugs to TR6s and started with the 100 shot. Made all of about two passes with that before I threw the 150 at it, the car took it like a champ and gave me a new found love for my car. :D cant wait to go get it refilled now:devil:

Robert56
01-21-2009, 04:56 AM
Actually the Sudden Impact Dry Plate kits have the Interface included. The Interface by itself is no more $$ than a timing tuner, and you get fuel control for dry and wet thrown in, so it's a good investment for the long haul, IMO, for when we change style of kits and we do often, lol. As far as being limited, I don't see it in any way shape or fashion. we can run up to 80lb injectors with the stock PCM. anyway, the HALO is not limited either with the Interface and injectors to meet your overall goals. A tuners best friend, the dry hit and the Interface, IMO. All of the limits of the dry from past times have been addressed. Even the NOS 5177 the kit that started the dry craze on the LSx platform has become a wonderful kit with the Interface. it's nice for the guys that want stealth because we can know leave the nozzles in the stock air box as per NOS (C5 and F-bods) and tune the leanish a/f ratio with the Interface, and pull timing all in one. two tunes in one, where neither effects the other. Long live the dry hit, lol. :D
Robert