Drag Racing Results - Finally! 6.50s NA on a 346!

I've been waiting for this for a long time - Now if we can stay together this year it will make me very happy! Yahooo!!! (Results are in 50-60* weather, sunny, winds at 10-16mph)

Run #1: 6.63 at 100.13, launched at 2500, left tire pressure a little high due to not being sure about traction issues on track
Run #2: 6.63 ar 100.82, launched at 3000, lowered tire pressure, BINGO, hooked well, pulled plugs to check and found 3/8 incorrectly gapped. Fixed.
Run #3: 6.58 at 101.56, launched at 3100, felt a definite "lift" on the driver front end!
Run #4: 6.57 at 101.78, launched at 3000, front end came up 2 feet and slammed me back down but it was great! :nod: (Wish I had a vid!) Ran a yellow TA with "N20 FED" plate. He stayed with me but I won.
Run #5: Oil on track, slid over mid-line before 60", would have enjoyed running that black TA though. :D

The car needs some serious suspension work. It is pulling hard to the right during launch but I keep it straight very well. It also apprears that the chassis is twisting badly. Now I get to spend some $$ on more parts, yepee!

Overall, I am very impressed and happy with the performance of the car this year. I owe a BIG thanks to LME: Late Model Engines in Houston, TX and Sean over at Corvettes of Dallas! Glad we are back in the game again! :devil:

nice times!

congrats ! great times :)

Hey,

Good luck this year!! Nice results so far. Have fun and be safe!

Nice job!!

Congrats on the new bests, and good luck this year!

Derek

Run #3: 6.58 at 101.56, launched at 3100, felt a definite "lift" on the driver front end!
Run #4: 6.57 at 101.78, launched at 3000, front end came up 2 feet and slammed me back down but it was great! :nod: (Wish I had a vid!) Ran a yellow TA with "N20 FED" plate. He stayed with me but I won.


That was me... You tree'd me bad.... What was your reaction time ? I think our run was #3 you showed me the slip I remember 6.58 I was impressed... That was alot of fun...

makes me wanna go back to a 346! good job!

Yea... I have a stock bottom end cam only 346 + 150shot N2O..And it's running great...

Wolfe Sway bar will fix the twist and pick you up another .1 once you figure out the front shocks etc...

damn nice numbers,whats rest of your mods,man i need to do sumthing to my car im behind a whole second!!

Nice job Michelle

Yea... I have a stock bottom end cam only 346 + 150shot N2O..And it's running great...

It seems you are one of the few that have a pretty good combo going. So many people throw nitrous on their car and only run 7-8's. I am very happy with our car this year, it's running strong! I'd like to run that black TA again - I hit oil on the track and went sideways but I would have had him. :nod: I ran another 6.58 last night with a .003 light, while dealing with an irate MAP sensor. It was nice meeting your wife. See you both around!

damn nice numbers,whats rest of your mods,man i need to do sumthing to my car im behind a whole second!!

Check out my mods on my FQuick page - lots of stuff listed!

It seems you are one of the few that have a pretty good combo going. So many people throw nitrous on their car and only run 7-8's. I am very happy with our car this year, it's running strong! I'd like to run that black TA again - I hit oil on the track and went sideways but I would have had him. :nod: I ran another 6.58 last night with a .003 light, while dealing with an irate MAP sensor. It was nice meeting your wife. See you both around!

LOL! Its a Formula! I am sure we will get a chance to run again. But just for fun. Your car is VERY impressive for a 346. You have the baddest NA setup I have seen, plus your car is very clean.
I am still getting mine dialed in, but I was pretty happy with what it ran. But, and I mean this as nice as I can, you would not have had me.
You are about 1/2 second behind and 15 MPH short. Granted, you make some time up at the tree, but not enough.

LOL! Its a Formula! I am sure we will get a chance to run again. But just for fun. Your car is VERY impressive for a 346. You have the baddest NA setup I have seen, plus your car is very clean.
I am still getting mine dialed in, but I was pretty happy with what it ran. But, and I mean this as nice as I can, you would not have had me.
You are about 1/2 second behind and 15 MPH short. Granted, you make some time up at the tree, but not enough.

:punch: Wow, beatin' up on me now, huh? JK :D So you have a 427 with twin turbos? - Am I reading that right? So you're running 6.0 flat? With a huge motor and turbos I would hope so...;) I think I still got you on motor alone though. Thanks for the nice compliments! Your car sounds good too!

Congrats on the new found power Michelle. Sounds like she's rolloing out hard. I bet there's more in her though. The mph is a little low for that et. Maybe the AFR is off a bit on the topend. It sure seems to be 60 footing good.

Now you need to come down and run some of the 6.60 heads up index races with us. You are right where you need to be for that class.

congrats

car runs very well

:punch: Wow, beatin' up on me now, huh? JK :D So you have a 427 with twin turbos? - Am I reading that right? So you're running 6.0 flat? With a huge motor and turbos I would hope so...;) I think I still got you on motor alone though. Thanks for the nice compliments! Your car sounds good too!


Not beating any one up, just want to make sure you don't bite off more than you can chew. On motor the best it ran was 6.7 at 104 with a 1.57 60 foot. (I never got a chance to put an NA converter in the car, plus it is only 9 to 1 comp)
It runs high 5s coming off the foot brake. If we try to use the T Brake the boost creep causes us to blow the tires. I expect the two step to help some. Once we get that done, we con go to more boost (7 pounds right now) and also take some weight off.
You have built a setup to run max effort NA. And it works. I was not trying to take anything away from you. But you have a way to go before beating a 427 TT car, even if it is not optimized or dialed in.

Not beating any one up, just want to make sure you don't bite off more than you can chew. On motor the best it ran was 6.7 at 104 with a 1.57 60 foot. (I never got a chance to put an NA converter in the car, plus it is only 9 to 1 comp)
It runs high 5s coming off the foot brake. If we try to use the T Brake the boost creep causes us to blow the tires. I expect the two step to help some. Once we get that done, we con go to more boost (7 pounds right now) and also take some weight off.
You have built a setup to run max effort NA. And it works. I was not trying to take anything away from you. But you have a way to go before beating a 427 TT car, even if it is not optimized or dialed in.


apples and oranges...

great numbers for a NA car and max effort. She has the right converter and combo to go fast for her class....

Michelle, my car is together soon..... how about you spray that same converter and setup and see if you can run me spray to spray?? Not likely....
But if I run you on motor you would run a 6.5X and I would only manage a 6.8-7.2 range pass.... it is what it is. My setup is not for NA passes. Just like Larry said above, he is on really low boost, nitrous converter, and low compression and still has 15mph in the 8th on you. But you will never see his car beat you on motor without a converter swap and the fine tuning that you have put into your combo.

Congrats....... some folks would say if it were me: "It is still ONLY a 6.5 second pass..... stock headed cars run those times" but that is for another LSforum and different group of folks. You should be proud of your accomplishments. Keep tree'ing folks!

I still remember the first week I got my car playing down Carrier and meeting you and your husband at the carwash. Y'all have come a long way.... so have I....... lots of $$ being spent! Spend it while ya can... you can't take it with you! :chug:

Most of the comments appreciated, but I'm not going to get into the "who's faster" or "apples to oranges" argument again. The fact of it is, in our neck of the woods (Dallas), I have not found another car running my numbers on a similar set-up. Yes, a high-compression car is built for an NA set-up and low-compression car is built for power adders. I only like to even the playing field by suggesting someone run me on their motor, but I also understand that changing something on the car when it's not built for it is like purposely blowing it up!

Heck, if I had a larger motor and it didn't at least run 5's, I'd sell it! It's just too much money to invest to not get good numbers out of it. I race to have a lot of fun and we are very happy about how we've built the car better over the years...But there's always someone who has to point out they're faster than me. I'm not mad, offended, or upset by any means but I really don't care who's faster than me. Just congratulate me for a job well done, and leave it at that! :gtfo:

Can't drop the turbos, sorry. Way too much labor.
Just kidding. You know that right?

And BTW, 6.5s on a 346 NA is darn fast, not just in Dallas, but everywhere.

And if I can point out, you are the one who said you would have had me if you had not spun. I just corrected you. I did not come into your post saying that I beat you. (Which I did not since I red lit anyway) Like I said, your car is fast. But we are in 2 different classes. Racing you for anyting other than fun would be silly. I am expected to win, and if I don't, I have huge issues. I am man enough to admit that. Lets keep this cool OK?

Just congratulate me for a job well done, and leave it at that! :gtfo:

Inflated ego much?

Very nice! Congrats!

I've been waiting for this for a long time - Now if we can stay together this year it will make me very happy! Yahooo!!! (Results are in 50-60* weather, sunny, winds at 10-16mph)

Run #1: 6.63 at 100.13, launched at 2500, left tire pressure a little high due to not being sure about traction issues on track
Run #2: 6.63 ar 100.82, launched at 3000, lowered tire pressure, BINGO, hooked well, pulled plugs to check and found 3/8 incorrectly gapped. Fixed.
Run #3: 6.58 at 101.56, launched at 3100, felt a definite "lift" on the driver front end!
Run #4: 6.57 at 101.78, launched at 3000, front end came up 2 feet and slammed me back down but it was great! :nod: (Wish I had a vid!) Ran a yellow TA with "N20 FED" plate. He stayed with me but I won.
Run #5: Oil on track, slid over mid-line before 60", would have enjoyed running that black TA though. :D

The car needs some serious suspension work. It is pulling hard to the right during launch but I keep it straight very well. It also apprears that the chassis is twisting badly. Now I get to spend some $$ on more parts, yepee!

Overall, I am very impressed and happy with the performance of the car this year. I owe a BIG thanks to LME: Late Model Engines in Houston, TX and Sean over at Corvettes of Dallas! Glad we are back in the game again! :devil:

Way to go! I know you worked hard to get the car where it is! Like you said I hope it stays together for you this time!


makes me wanna go back to a 346! good job!


I got a pretty good runnin NA 346, if you want to trade even up! J/K


And BTW, 6.5s on a 346 NA is darn fast, not just in Dallas, but everywhere.

That is a very true statement there are many cars owners and I mean many car owners that would love to run 6.50s NA with any CI! However most are not LS engine based cars! Man it is fun to be able to enjoy these engines.


N2

Fasttagurl, congrats on your accomplishments with your little NA 346. It surprises alot of people on how well they do run.

There have been a few that have run in the 9.9x range in years past, but those cars were very light in the weight department (2700-2800lb range).

I built a naturally aspirated 347ci, 5.3 heads, 11.1 compression, Hyd cam, Fast 90/90, on 93 pump gas back in 2005. The car weighed 3045lbs with me in it and it went a best of 10.10@131 . The 60' times footbraking were in the low 1.3xs most of the time with the best ever being a 1.31.

Here is the time slip from the 10.10 run to compare with your runs. I feel your car has much more potential left in the combo you just have to figure everything out and make it all work together.

60'.....1.330
330....4.087
1/8....6.389
mph...106.25
1000..8.395
1/4....10.106
mph...131.02

Good luck in the future and I hope to hear about some low 10 sec runs from you.

Fasttagurl, congrats on your accomplishments with your little NA 346. It surprises alot of people on how well they do run.

There have been a few that have run in the 9.9x range in years past, but those cars were very light in the weight department (2700-2800lb range).

I built a naturally aspirated 347ci, 5.3 heads, 11.1 compression, Hyd cam, Fast 90/90, on 93 pump gas back in 2005. The car weighed 3045lbs with me in it and it went a best of 10.10@131 . The 60' times footbraking were in the low 1.3xs most of the time with the best ever being a 1.31.

Here is the time slip from the 10.10 run to compare with your runs. I feel your car has much more potential left in the combo you just have to figure everything out and make it all work together.

60'.....1.330
330....4.087
1/8....6.389
mph...106.25
1000..8.395
1/4....10.106
mph...131.02

Good luck in the future and I hope to hear about some low 10 sec runs from you.

I want you to tell me how you got it that light! I am at 3,350 lbs. I need to find a way to get lighter!!

N2

I want you to tell me how you got it that light! I am at 3,350 lbs. I need to find a way to get lighter!!

N2

Spend lots of money on Lightweight parts, Drag brakes with manual master cylinder with save you about 95lbs.

There was no metal that was cut out of my car. The lights,turn signals,power windows,security system all still worked. No wireing was removed. All plastic interior stuff was still in the car along with lightweight carpet. Stock glass was also still in the car along with the stock firehawk hood.

I could have made the car much lighter but at the time the LS1Tech races required a 3200lbs min weight for the SS class. I was having to add 150lbs or so to the car to make weight.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/hawkn01/2tjMIRLS1Techshootout9-17-05-1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d158/hawkn01/DSC_2711.jpg

Car looks great! I will keep working on mine! Maybe I just need to stop eating period!!!

N2

That's some great numbers on that LIL 346. congrats.

yeh i need to stop eating to.

Congrats on the new best!!! Your DEAD ON what i run with my best being a 6.5690 at 101.58.Here are my # for comparision
60 ft----1.3668
660-----6.5690 101.58
1320---10.4370 126.37

Good luck this season!!

congrats on the new times!!! And ya that car needs some suspension work for sure, you could see it twisting pretty bad...

It needs a wolfe sway bar. BAD.

Numerous folks have told her and either $$ is the issue or ignorance.

Congrats on the 6.5's. Long time coming.

When does your points season start?

Coach

Congrats on the 6.5's. Long time coming.

When does your points season start?

Coach

I think it starts next weekend, but I'm not doing points this year. I may hit a couple of Saturday races if the car's running strong, but otherwise I will be doing out-of-town races more. Ya, a few more dollars saved and I can improve my suspension!

a few more dollars saved and I can improve my suspension!

it never ends .....

whats your raceweight?
thats smoking for 346 inches!

whats your raceweight?
thats smoking for 346 inches!

Under 3000 lbs....:devil: About to put the rear drag bar on! Also, I launched it last night at 3500 and it pulled about 2 feet in the air - it was so awesome! :D

how big is your stall again ?

Under 3000 lbs....:devil: About to put the rear drag bar on! Also, I launched it last night at 3500 and it pulled about 2 feet in the air - it was so awesome! :D


That is a great race weight! I wish I could just get my car down to 3,300 lbs. You will be very pleased once you install the drag bar!

It is fun leaving with both tires in the air just do not let it get to high! Been there done that and got the T-shirt!

Be safe!

N2

Under 3000 lbs....:devil: About to put the rear drag bar on! Also, I launched it last night at 3500 and it pulled about 2 feet in the air - it was so awesome! :D

any vids of your car?
sounds like it leaves nasty.
congrats on a sweet setup.

how big is your stall again ?

Check out my FQuick Page for info.

any vids of your car?
sounds like it leaves nasty.
congrats on a sweet setup.

No, we are working on some new vids and pics that I will post soon. It does leave real hard. I've always been real happy with how it tucks good and leaves straight.