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Old 02-21-2009, 07:52 AM
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Im about 12 hours into swapping on the ls6 intake and the ls1 intake will not come off. Ive got everything un hooked like ls1howto says except the stuff on the back because it wont come forward. I can move it up and down but something hangs it up and it will only pull forward about 1/4-1/2 of an inch. Im out of options and ideas. Anybody had this problem with it not moving forward so you can get behind it to pull the little vac line and electrical connector off? any ideas on what I could be hungup on? its not a solid stop like a bolt its squshy like pulling on wires. any help would be great. thanks.
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Keep the bolts in the back up with some rubber bands or clips, raise it up just enough for the "bosses" on the manifold to clear the insets in the head, (careful here because if you raise it too much you will break the oil sending unit), then ease it forward,check the bolts as you go to make sure they are high enough to clear. It will then slide forward easily and you can remove the hoses and wires.
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ok i got it out... busted the oil sending unit clear off so my dad is headed to town to pick one up, oreilly has one. my hangup was this other wire coming off the back of the map sensor??? never seen it on any pictures before and the ls6 intake doesnt have a provision for it. it comes out of the side of the little vacuum hose and ran to some sensor. my brother is on his way here with my camera so ill post a picture. anyone know what that thing is?
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there it is... you can see where it hooks into the side of the little vacuum hose and the sensor that I took off the car. it was mounted up by the #5 injector. theres another line that comes out of the back of that sensor that ran to the top of another sensor looking thing under the hood way in the back that had an air line running from the drivers side manifold to that sensor
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That has to do with the air system, if you are gonna keep it you have to take the t off the old intake and put it on the ls6. I did mine this week but I deleted the air and egr.
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Originally Posted by Cowboy97
That has to do with the air system, if you are gonna keep it you have to take the t off the old intake and put it on the ls6. I did mine this week but I deleted the air and egr.
Thats right.^^^^
+100 on the good pics and accurate descriptions.
When you put the intake back on use some 1/4" to 3/8" fuel line cut in approx1" sections and cut on one side so they can be put on the rear bolts to hold them up.
When you put the intake on, hold the rear higher and set it down when it gets past the oil sender.
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does it take 12 hours to do an intake swap???reason im asking is bc i will be helping a buddy do one soon and i estimated we could do it in an afternoon....
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it shouldn't; i did my buddies in about 6 (it was my first time and we broke the OSU).
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when me and my buddy did my head install we broke the damn oil pressure sending unit it was a pain in the ***. since we put the car back together and didnt relize that we broke and when i started up the car had no oil pressure lol
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my main problem was i didnt realize that extra little fitting was on the back for that air stuff which i just got done completely tearing out of the car im in the process of removing the ribs on the bottom of the ls6 intake now... goin with the ls1 coolant lines... do i remember reading something somewhere about those green clips having to come off... the ones that hold on the electrical whatever lines to the coolant lines under the intake?
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Originally Posted by 9000th01ss
Thats right.^^^^
+100 on the good pics and accurate descriptions.
When you put the intake back on use some 1/4" to 3/8" fuel line cut in approx1" sections and cut on one side so they can be put on the rear bolts to hold them up.
When you put the intake on, hold the rear higher and set it down when it gets past the oil sender.
duct tape works good too for holding up the bolts

thanks for the info on putting the intake back on... praying i dont break the damn thing again... thanks
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
does it take 12 hours to do an intake swap???reason im asking is bc i will be helping a buddy do one soon and i estimated we could do it in an afternoon....
No, it took me about 5-6 hours working kinda slowly by myself...and I spent a lot of time squatting down next to the car letting my knees rest because they can't take leaning over a fender for very long without locking on me.

For what it's worth...the plastic nails that hold the weatherstripping down to the cowl are your worst enemy, might wanna consider removing that first and reinstalling it later when you finish the intake swap. If you're careful as I was, you won't break the oil sending unit (the brake booster hose could have broken mine if i wasn't careful), and if you hold each bolt up and wrap some tape around it as you unbolt them...they will stay held up for you. Do the same with the new intake, tape the bolts up...if you tape them right you can make yourself little tabs so when the intake is set in place, you can just tug the tabs and the bolts fall down into place, then it's really easy to snug them down and torque them.
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Originally Posted by Mike454SS
No, it took me about 5-6 hours working kinda slowly by myself...and I spent a lot of time squatting down next to the car letting my knees rest because they can't take leaning over a fender for very long without locking on me.

For what it's worth...the plastic nails that hold the weatherstripping down to the cowl are your worst enemy, might wanna consider removing that first and reinstalling it later when you finish the intake swap. If you're careful as I was, you won't break the oil sending unit (the brake booster hose could have broken mine if i wasn't careful), and if you hold each bolt up and wrap some tape around it as you unbolt them...they will stay held up for you. Do the same with the new intake, tape the bolts up...if you tape them right you can make yourself little tabs so when the intake is set in place, you can just tug the tabs and the bolts fall down into place, then it's really easy to snug them down and torque them.
Ya I did the same, used tape and it pulled right off, it was perfect. It took me 5 or 6 hours, I worked on it a couple hours then waited and finished it the next day. Didnt get my tb till last night though, now shes running again. No problems and I didnt break the OSU!
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On my bolts I cut small pieces of hose and split them to hold the bolts up. I second to pulling the plastic retainers on the cowl. I snapped my OSU too, but I couldn't get the brake hose routed back out of the rest of the wires. I kinda figured I would though. One more tip that I haven't seen yet is on an A4 jack the car up and remove the bolt that holds the transmission dipstick on the back of the head, mine wouldn't come out without it.
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+1 on the sharp little plastic bolts although i jus clipped the bottom sharp part off and caught the little pieces. i probably hadnt been working on it 12 hours... i exaggerated there on my first post because i was angry... yesterday i probably worked 7 hours on it and another 5 today. plus i removed the air system, and went reeeeally slow. plus making my own block off plates and it runs!!


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Nice work bud! I've taken the intake off so many times i think i could do it in an hour or two. Seriously i don't have enough fingers to count how many times i've done it, lol. Lets not even get into how many times i've broken the oil pressure sensor. GL with the car!
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thanks, ive got 8 days over spring break to pull of the headers, clutch, and cam swap so im hopin for the best!

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Good job on getting everything fixed!

My first time took forever as well because I never read (or was smart enough) to tape up the bolts. That makes things 10000000000 times easier, I use 1" sections of fuel hose now. Your second time will go much smoother.

Due to retarded reasons I ended up pulling the intake off and back on 3 days in a row. A guy on here said he could pull one off in 10 minutes which I thought was impossible. I timed myself the second day and had the thing out in 18!

Be sure to follow the torque specs and sequence on the 10 8mm bolts because they will snap if you over torque them. ; )
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i broke the erl sending unit my first time. old ghey brittle plastic ugh!!.. but now . i can usually do a intake swap in about 30 minutes
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Originally Posted by The Cook
duct tape works good too for holding up the bolts

thanks for the info on putting the intake back on... praying i dont break the damn thing again... thanks
Use Split Wire Loom!!!!! You need 5 one inch pieces and you can re-use them if you need to.


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