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john_stout
02-23-2009, 01:27 AM
I reached my goal for my 02 z28 a4, I told myself I wouldnt do anything else to my car until I hit 12s and I did so here come the mods. I have a lid and no muffler.


rt...449
60'...2.103
330...5.610
1/8...8.475
mph...86.77
1000...10.899
1/4...12.961
mph.. 108.99

I was the first one to run in the left lane, this time was my second run of the day. Then the track turned shitty and I couldnt get traction for anything.


john_stout
02-23-2009, 01:36 AM
O yea street tires at 35 psi.

pat-ls101
02-24-2009, 06:21 PM
Very nice! I hoping for that here in a couple weeks :) Do you have any traction issues what rpm did u launch?


john_stout
02-25-2009, 12:37 PM
Lots of traction issues, the track I was at is a really bad track. I launched at about 1200 rpm. I should be going to tulsa soon it is a way better track, hoping for better times than that.

m3chaser
02-25-2009, 01:49 PM
Very nice times for pretty much zero mods! Well done! With a better 60ft you would have been even lower!

Intercooler2
02-25-2009, 02:00 PM
Just a lid on radials and it ran that? Got a video? Not saying it can't be done but A4 cars stock with those mods and no tune or extras just don't do it.

pat-ls101
02-25-2009, 03:01 PM
Just a lid on radials and it ran that? Got a video? Not saying it can't be done but A4 cars stock with those mods and no tune or extras just don't do it.

Oh here we go again... the whole a4 vs m6 thing THERE THE SAME DAMN CARS a4's m6's stock for stock its a drivers race.....

blk/slvr02ss
02-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Oh here we go again... the whole a4 vs m6 thing THERE THE SAME DAMN CARS a4's m6's stock for stock its a drivers race.....You have to remember the M6 can get a better 60ft than the A4 stock to stock.But look what my A4 did w/ little mod's.

john_stout
02-25-2009, 05:16 PM
No video but I can post a pic of the time slip, I still have the number on my window and I can take a pic of that, a guy named tray1010 on here can verify my car is stock.

john_stout
02-25-2009, 05:22 PM
I beat 2 of the ls1 m6's around here before but we are back and forth most of the time.

zracer323
02-25-2009, 06:18 PM
Just a lid on radials and it ran that? Got a video? Not saying it can't be done but A4 cars stock with those mods and no tune or extras just don't do it.

Thats not true at all. Mine went 13.01 with just a lid on 245/50/16 street tires in pretty good air and I was spinning. If I could have hooked a little more than it definitly would have gone 12s

Intercooler2
02-25-2009, 06:39 PM
Anything is possible yes. But still remains a M6 can take off harder due to more RPM's on the launch. I have seen some with similar mods dip into the 12's but not on radials and A4. Do a search and post up the amount you find! I managed a 13.2@106 same way. I added some good mods and upped the power and even went to DR's only to get 12.9@109. I just couldn't get any stall speed out of my converter but now I have the 3600 stall.


An M6 will almost always run more MPH unless something is messed up and or ET better if they can drive. Maybe he has alot of weight stripped out or something.

trey1010
02-25-2009, 10:32 PM
yeah me and my girlfriend were there and all he has is a lid and cutoff muffler! That is it! He really did run that time!

Tapout97
02-26-2009, 01:37 AM
WOW your car must be a freak of nature to run 12.9 trapping almost 109 claiming to be stock............ id sell it right away .......... sorry i dont by it.

john_stout
02-26-2009, 11:15 AM
lol. why the hell would i sell it? that makes no sense, stop talking out of your ass.

OOOJOHN
02-26-2009, 11:31 AM
ive seen alot of my friends with autos get in the 12s with just a lid and tires.

z28camaro1090
02-26-2009, 01:27 PM
I dont see why everyone on here is bashing the guy instead of saying congrats. The guy did something good with his car.. theres no reason to doubt him he has no reason to come on a board and lie to anyone. Is everyone who is hating just mad cause you couldnt do the same thing with your car .. all the haters need to grow up ...


Congrats dude nice pass

pat-ls101
02-26-2009, 03:18 PM
I dont see why everyone on here is bashing the guy instead of saying congrats. The guy did something good with his car.. theres no reason to doubt him he has no reason to come on a board and lie to anyone. Is everyone who is hating just mad cause you couldnt do the same thing with your car .. all the haters need to grow up ...


Congrats dude nice pass
Yes exactly! too many haters and I bet they probly drive 6 speeds too... Which im not bashing you I like both

john_stout
02-26-2009, 05:25 PM
Thank you guys, hopefully I can get down to tulsa this saturday and get an even better et, track is much stickier than thunder valley.

Black
02-26-2009, 08:55 PM
I was there also and can vouch for him. Coincidently I ran my best ever that same day, 12.99 at 107.94 with just a lid and aftermarket flowmaster knockoff.

Swift_01_z-28
02-26-2009, 09:07 PM
Kick ass time man. I'm hoping mine will run a good time when if I can ever get it to a damn track, lol. BTW, what gears are you running? OH AND BTW, the m6 can launch hard, but so can a stalled auto, so there ya go.

01z28blood
02-26-2009, 10:33 PM
I have a 01 Z28 A4 with 2.73 that ran a 12.99 @ 108.55, the mods were SLP lid, K/N, and stock exhaust with Flowmaster muffler. The 60 foot time was a 2.02 and I was able to reach 1500rpm on brake. the car was dynoed at 313 rwhp and 338 rwtq.

Black
02-27-2009, 06:10 AM
Thank you, it can be done!

oddwraith
02-27-2009, 10:56 AM
Wow very nice run dude. See what happens when someone has an LS1 AND can drive. Again, very nice.

john_stout
02-27-2009, 11:35 AM
Thanks guys, im still excited ha. Tray1010 and I were curious as to what gears I had and we looked on the door and the code was for 273s, so he had this chart that had rmps and mph in first gear at 1600rpm I was at 14 mph so that translated to 323s. Black are you going to thunder valley this sunday?

Flatblak
02-27-2009, 11:37 AM
Nice driving! This is good news, I had a hunch my car could dip into the 12's with just the lid, ported tb, and 3" exhaust. I have the M6 though.

john_stout
02-27-2009, 11:39 AM
What did you run?

DANZWS6
02-27-2009, 01:03 PM
Great pass! Look back at gm hightechperformance mag, some time ago, they ran an all stock 01 or 02 camaro ss that broke in the
12's! I beleave you! I wish my 02' ws6 m6 ran that!
Best regaurds,
dan

philsblwnz28
02-27-2009, 10:35 PM
Wow A4's getting some good times out there.....I ran a 12.91 @ 108.9 with a tune, ported tb, gutted cats, magnaflow muffler, slp lid.

dannyz
02-28-2009, 12:11 AM
I was there also and can vouch for him. Coincidently I ran my best ever that same day, 12.99 at 107.94 with just a lid and aftermarket flowmaster knockoff.

It's only your second post.
You don't have any credibility.

dannyz
02-28-2009, 12:14 AM
I have a 01 Z28 A4 with 2.73 that ran a 12.99 @ 108.55, the mods were SLP lid, K/N, and stock exhaust with Flowmaster muffler. The 60 foot time was a 2.02 and I was able to reach 1500rpm on brake. the car was dynoed at 313 rwhp and 338 rwtq.

Dynoed at 313rwhp and 338 rwtq?????????
Uh,.........sure.
Come on you guy's.
This is one of the taller tale's that I have heard.:eyes:

john_stout
02-28-2009, 03:55 AM
God damn, why does someone always have to call bs on things. Its not like i said i ran 11 sec in the quarter stock, i ran a 12.9. Grow up people.

john_stout
02-28-2009, 03:58 AM
If you are going to be a dick go do it in someone elses thread not mine.

Black
02-28-2009, 03:52 PM
I dont need credibility. I have 20 20 vision and a timeslip!

Swift_01_z-28
02-28-2009, 07:37 PM
I love how everyone counts the a4 guys out, lol. I don't really get it. Oh well, I will just go get me a 12 second slip on nothing but a lid and p&p tb and a chokemaster muffler and then get called full of it too.

blue98Z
02-28-2009, 09:43 PM
Congrats on the time man. Drop some air out and get that 60 down. My M6 liked 26psi, but you might can get away with a little more being an auto. You should be good for another tenth or two with that trap. Let us know how it goes at the better track.

cooter brown
03-01-2009, 05:32 AM
Congrats John on the 12 sec pass.
I have an 02 SS with a lid and throttle body only....made 6 passes one night and ran a 13.0 somethin every time - couldn't get into the 12's for nothin. I'm an auto, too so I know it can be done. Way to go

Getzen_Guy
03-01-2009, 11:03 PM
It's only your second post.
You don't have any credibility.

I was also there and I have plenty of credibility over 2000 posts on LS1.com


and you aren't one to talk about post numbers Mr. 373

anyway, great time john!

Z28SteveA4
03-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Oh here we go again... the whole a4 vs m6 thing THERE THE SAME DAMN CARS a4's m6's stock for stock its a drivers race.....

u also have to remember with a stick car u can stay in the higher rpms where these motors really make there power which meanies they will have more power. Awesome run to to get back to the thread. u will deff hit a 12.7 or so with a better 60' like a 1.9

john_stout
03-02-2009, 04:36 PM
Thanks guys. Well I ended up giving tulsa more credit than I should have, it sucked bad, the track was even worse than thundervally. My best run was 13.1

john_stout
03-02-2009, 04:40 PM
I love how everyone counts the a4 guys out, lol. I don't really get it. Oh well, I will just go get me a 12 second slip on nothing but a lid and p&p tb and a chokemaster muffler and then get called full of it too.

Lol cause its the cool thing to do.

john_stout
03-02-2009, 04:43 PM
I was also there and I have plenty of credibility over 2000 posts on LS1.com


and you aren't one to talk about post numbers Mr. 373

anyway, great time john!

Thank you my african friend lol, He is just another black lude.

dannyz
03-04-2009, 01:35 PM
I was also there and I have plenty of credibility over 2000 posts on LS1.com


and you aren't one to talk about post numbers Mr. 373

anyway, great time john!

And you have 1 here:eyes:

dannyz
03-04-2009, 03:23 PM
To the op, I'll tell you what..
Scan that time slip and post it.
I will take you on your word that your only mods are a lid and no muffler.
If you can do that I will gladly apologise to you and anyone else I may have offended.
I will even start a new thread on it.

john_stout
03-05-2009, 02:08 AM
Lol alright... I will do it when I get home in the morning. I have the slip with me right now and could take a pic on my phone but I dont have the big sd card.

oo7steven
03-05-2009, 03:20 AM
grats man I said the same thing about 12's but with the mods I am planning I think it'll be more like a solid mid to low 12 where I stop modding. I don't want a cage in my daily driver. So I swear nothing better than 11.5 :naughty: More power leads to wanting more and more. Quit it before it begins!!

The best I can squeak out so far is a 13.19 Just a lid and I still have an ls1 intake and crappy street tires. I can barely break 2.2 60 ft in part to bad track prep. I figure the intake is worth a tenth or two and a mph or two. I figure an intake and drag radials since auto's and dr's seem to go together like firearms and ammo. Then I should be a bit into the first big magic second barrier for our cars.

jbs02somws6
03-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Nice run. A lid and no muffler will net about 20hp on a Z. Thats about 370hp at the crank, with a nice well-worn motor. Figure in the DA and vehicle weight is key and it's not too hard to believe the numbers. I've been seeing some full bolt-on cars on this site trapping 114-115.

To see the other extreme for great runs like this, John, look at me. I ran a 13.9 at 103 in terrible DA (I'm guessing here, mid 90's temp) and no traction with about 330rwhp. Then on the street a few weeks later I run dead even from a stop with a Z with similar mods to me who I've personally seen run a 12.86 at 109 at a different track. Shows how important weather and traction is to all cars at any particular track. I need to find a track in So Cal to run times like some of you guys.

Swift_01_z-28
03-05-2009, 11:06 PM
U guys need to come down to Texas, there's nitrous in the air here!!!

Swift_01_z-28
03-05-2009, 11:07 PM
Lol cause its the cool thing to do.

Lol, I'm all about being cool man. No but seriously, seeing these numbers from a basically stock z makes me wonder what my car will pull in a 1/4. Haven't been able to get to one yet.

john_stout
03-07-2009, 02:52 AM
Thunder valley blows bad all I did was freaking spin my best time was 13.39. My times are all over the place, im going to have to buy some drag radials.

1979rs/z28
03-07-2009, 06:35 AM
Nice run!! Get that 60' down it'll go even faster. Hell my car ran a 12.88 and a 12.65 back to back with my relocation brackets!