Automatic Transmission - Help New trans/converter wont hold fluid

I put around 250-300 miles on it and out of nowhere it just started puking all the fluid out of where the trans bolts to the motor. Its a xtreme performance street/strip trans and a circle d 4c converter, I'm running a b&m 24k cooler mounted dope style. I had it towed to the trans shop that installed it and they said it got too hot and melted a seal but I dont know how it would since I never ran it without a cooler. Here are some pics

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forgot to add: The trans shop said the snout on the circle d was thicker than stock, would that cause this?

kind of hard to tell, was the snout kind of blue looking, like it got hot-it might have walked the bushing out of the pump-can you tell if it is still in there
was the converter hard to push in orig

yea it turned blueish and had a ring around the inside where it looked like it might have burned through. They said it was kinda tight going in but nothing they havent seen before, but it was a bitch to get out. I dont know if the bushing is still there they are taking the pump off this morning

Hmmm. Was the converter locking up? When you say the snout was thicker, did you mean the OD, or just wall thickness. And by snout do you mean the part than engages in the transmission?

Chris

Ya the converter has been locking up great, I meant the wall thinkiness (I figured it was normal for an aftermarket converter) and yes where it engages in the trans

I am not sure what happened. Send the converter back and I will cut it open to check it out. Sounds like something was overheating??

Chris

All the parts are at the trans shop, they are trying to figure out if it was the trans or converter, pm me if you want the trans shop's number so you could talk to them more about it, Im a total newb when it comes to autos
edit: This is my DD and its killin me not having a car, its been at the trans shop since monday

I talked to the guy at the transmission shop and he said he will measure the hub of the stock converter vs the aftermarket one. He said that on install the converter went in kind of tight. Sorry this had to happen to you, but we will help you on resolving this problem.

Thanks for all you are doing.

So far Xtreme Trans has the best customer service of any company I have ever delt with

Do you have a trans temp gauge?
I have A converter and the same cooler mounted to the condenser right in front of the pass side fan and the temps are set to turn on earlier to draw air through it.
It still gets too hot for my liking driving around not on the highway.

City type driving in 15 minutes is up to 200 at least.

FWIW I ran at the track with the stock converter 6 times from 12.9 down to 12.6 back to back, non stop and it built up to 210 by the last run. I can't wait to see what temp the new converter runs at.

All the parts are at the trans shop, they are trying to figure out if it was the trans or converter, pm me if you want the trans shop's number so you could talk to them more about it, Im a total newb when it comes to autos
edit: This is my DD and its killin me not having a car, its been at the trans shop since monday

Sure, please PM the number.

The hub should measure 1.750. The hub is a piece I buy, not something I make 1 by 1.

Chris

pm sent

Right back at you!

Chris

Do you have a trans temp gauge?
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I'll assume not.

sorry no I dont, I talked to the trans shop and they said that the bushing walked out of the trans and into the seal.

Jonny, they should be calling you soon if they havent already

Well I see you saw it I noticed the bushing in the pick and was reading down through all of this and then saw the answer, So damn after all that reading I felt a need to say something useless.
But Seriously it happens and looks like just bad luck.

Sorry to hear about your luck, it happens man....could have been worse though. When I fried my last tranny, the car was down for about a month :bang:. Hopefully it's not too bad internally. On the bright side, it looks like Xtreme trans and Circle D are taking good care of you. We're very fortunate to have the wonderful sponsors we have!! :usa:

Well I see you saw it I noticed the bushing in the pick and was reading down through all of this and then saw the answer, So damn after all that reading I felt a need to say something useless.
But Seriously it happens and looks like just bad luck.

any idea what would cause it?

any idea what would cause it?

Well one common thing that comes to mind its a warped flex plate it will wobble the converter and work the bushing forward slowly

It has a brand new speedInc plate that went in the same time as the trans and converter

Well also I have seen this install error.
If you use the bolts to pull the converter to the plate rather than having the converter flush against the plate it can create the same wobble affect and of course it could have just happened. I have seen it before happen with no real explanation I could find.

Now also consider if there is any blueing on the converter hub where it meets the bushing you should also check for cooler restriction either in the lines or the cooler it self.

Sorry to hear about your luck, it happens man....could have been worse though. When I fried my last tranny, the car was down for about a month :bang:. Hopefully it's not too bad internally. On the bright side, it looks like Xtreme trans and Circle D are taking good care of you. We're very fortunate to have the wonderful sponsors we have!! :usa:

x2 on sponsors, I would be completely screwed if this happed from a trans built locally

x2 on sponsors, I would be completely screwed if this happed from a trans built locally

want to bet? Bakers took greta care of me when mine popped a ring out of place and caused it to lock up, rebuilt it for free even after the warranty had expired and got it done it 2 days, that's dropping it off at 3p.m. on day one and picking it up done and ready to go at 5p.m on day two....

anyways back on topic...welcome to the world of fkin with your DD..Shouldn't have picked on me back when my Z was my DD and when it was broke..:punch: it's all good though bro...soo when you gonna bring the Red Sled by to keep mine company for a weekend???? glad you got the trans issue taken care of

Just got back from the trans shop and found out what the problem was, the bushing wasn't loctited in and walked out. But it looks like Xtreme is taking care of it
James should be calling you soon Jonny

Bushings don't need to be loctited in. Thats usually done for reasons I won't say. But it's not a common practice to install a converter and take the bushing out to loctite it in place.
That may solve the problem, but thats not what caused the problem.