WizeAss

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I want to know how big a dry shot have you sprayed... what setup (injectors, fuel pumps, tuning, maf or SD etc etc) and what did you think about it. Did you drive the car on the street?

Beaflag VonRathburg

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The most I've seen is Guess Who. I know he was spraying 500 dry through two stages with dual nozzles. He has a Beck intake which has a different intake tract than a normal intake so I wouldn't ever suggest that on a normal intake manifold.

ATVracr

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350 shot
Magnafuel pump
83lb injectors
FAST XFI

I dont drive it on the street as much as I used to but I could.

ItsNotStock

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I believe Wizeass is still running the single plane with one of Aaron's elbows. If you've ever seen Aaron's work I wouldn't doubt it could hold a big shot. Why have you decided on just a dry shot? You have already spent alot of money in your engine why not splurge on a stand-alone to be safer?

ATVracr

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Safer?

How so?

98mysticZ

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................ mike i am gonna see what i get this week.. and what will max out my svo 42lbers and a hot wire kit.... we will see might go 60-80lbers and twin pumps.. then go higher.. but i am shooting for a 200 wheel...

bad6as

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nothing big but i have a racetronix in tank pump, hot wire kit and svo 42 threw a dry plate with dual .48's

98mysticZ

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what do u get at the wheels with that?

bad6as

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not sure yet

98mysticZ

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sweet got to love it.. i am gonna run 2 diff kits... 51/53 or 61/63's its like a 165-75 ish wheel... or like a 230ish haha..

bad6as

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yea still stock heads and bottom end, and oh yea 103,000 miles

ItsNotStock

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I'm no nitrous guru. I just understand the basics behind nitrous, and how quickly a dry shot can find a weak point in your fueling system.

The 42# Injectors that Wizeass has on his car are not sufficient to run a huge dry shot on top of his 408. I've seen them maxed out on a 427 N/A. Unless you have a sufficient fuel system to properly and quickly adjust to the spiked 02 levels you're just doing to break something. Bigger lines/injectors/pump(s)/rails to meet, and of course exceed the threshold required to keep the AFR in a safe level while spraying can add up. Adding the fuel directly is alot cheaper. And imho a wet, or better a stand-alone is cheap insurance compared to a rebuild of an already expensive stroker.

But looking at his web-site he already has a wet-shot that can be jetted up to 300, wtf? I'm so confused.

98mysticZ

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idk i am not even coming CLOSE to maxing my setup out.. have already sprayed a 100 shot and made 575 wheel... and wasnt close to maxing out the injectors

ATVracr

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A wet shot can find the same weakness, it takes the same amount of fuel to make the same power wet or dry doesnt matter.

If you 1/2 *** anything and try to spray a big shot it will break stuff.

Maybe stick to turbos or read more about Dry nitrous.

98mysticZ

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ItsNotStock

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Yes, but what I'm saying is you're supplying the fuel rather than relying on a systems of sensors. Seems safer is it not?

I see spraying a big dry shot as being half-assed in of itself. How many serious nitrous guys are running dry shots?

I like to stretch my legs outside the FI forum. Can't be cooped up in there too long, and it doesn't hurt to learn something new.

I'm genuinely curious why you advocate sticking with a dry shot. I'm assuming that's what you're alluding to anyways. At what point would you want to switch?

ATVracr

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Why rely on any sensors? You command the fuel you want thru the injectors. (sort of like you do for your turbo , more boost = more fuel, more N20 = more fuel)

Far from 1/2 assed just kinda new. (sorta like turbos were 10 years ago)
My set up is a all Dry 2 stage direct port.

Never ... there are a few Pro mod guys running all dry, no need to switch if you know what your doing.

ItsNotStock

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So you change the IFR tables to richen it up. But then what if you're not spraying? Hope the system acclimates, or let it run rich in town while you're cruising?

The truth comes out I did not mean to insult you. There are a million ways to make power. I just simple believe you should do it in the safest way possible.

Few, but not the majority. What made the majority not choose dry? That's what I'm trying to get at.

novaflash2002

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this was the question, i think that the point is being changed here. I like a wet shot myself, but have seen some large dry kits as well. I have also noticed (not always though) a dry kit running a big shot (300 hp and up) usualy will cost more. Its just adding all of the suporting equipment usually adds to the price.

Now to answer the question a friend with a 408 went from a 300 dry shot down to a 250 wet shot and ran almost .2 quicker.

WizeAss

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I sold my 42lb SVO injectors for a set of 60's and have a pump in the back. Will also put a second pump inline. I had a 200 shot on my standalone setup, but have seen good results out of a dry 200 shot and the 200 shot will allow for easier tuning at the track. Only problem is you need to run more racegas but running he tank with pump and racegas in the standalone wasnt enough per some of the experts.

I was just curious what the differences were and what ya'll thought. I know a dry shot is all about tuning the injectors and PCM and the wet shot is more about tuning the regulator on the standalone and pill jets matching up.