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Mustang guys getting scared...

Old 03-17-2009, 11:57 AM
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http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...=478799&page=1

Kind of funny one guy even says "Gt500 beats SS no problem, just like SS beats GT, just like GT beats Camaro 6 cylinder"... What they are talking **** about beating six cylinder camaro's now? WOW
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they sound like friend of mine.do they think chevy dont have something for ecoboost, what do they think when mustang get redesigned, it will add some pounds
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I really wonder why "car guys" still incessantly argue the stock timeslips etc. Once the modding starts, it's all useless.... a cammed LS3 in the camaro will be a force to be reckoned with, just like a GT500 pushing 15 lbs of boost and a GT with 150 shot of nitrous. All running the same timeslips after modification. Yet they still argue and argue about stock timeslips.
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The Mustang guys on there seem to worried

...that it would compare with the GT500. lol
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Default what causes me concern is...

The two (?) posters on that thread commenting on the "cheapness" of the new Camaro interior.

While everyone's got an opinion, I do hope those are not average. A crummy interior will turn off a lot of potential v6 buyers- that is, non-hardcore performance fans.
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Haha, they are worried and its great. What is even better is they are having to compare the SS to the GT500 which aren't even in the same price range. They better just pray the Z28 doesn't get produced
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^ Word
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gt500 gets more "revisions" in 2011
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^ GT500 = non factory stang, if we are going to compare an after market "factory approved rendition" perhaps I would submit Lingenfelter's upcoming camaro monster
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Originally Posted by phirepower
^ GT500 = non factory stang, if we are going to compare an after market "factory approved rendition" perhaps I would submit Lingenfelter's upcoming camaro monster
The standard GT500 is a Ford factory production Mustang model.......same as the sixxer and GT. The KR and Super Snake are the ones that are done at the Shelby factory. And for those of you who think the GT500 doesn't count because it's a "low volume specialty car", just remember this............there's been nearly twice as many GT500's built as there were 03/04 Cobras.

Not being a fanboy here or defending anything or anyone.......just setting the facts straight.
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Originally Posted by Tex7387
Haha, they are worried and its great. What is even better is they are having to compare the SS to the GT500 which aren't even in the same price range. They better just pray the Z28 doesn't get produced
The last I checked, a loaded SS and a GT500 are about in the same price range. IMO, the Camaro is waayy over priced.

I built one on GM's website with 2SS, engine cover, stripes, and polished rims. The price was $35,400 before TTT. With 0 down and current rates on a 60 month loan, that put the payment over $700 per month. Thanks, but no thanks. That's a little too rich for my blood. I'm sure many on here will be in the same boat.

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Originally Posted by firechicken_98
The last I checked, a loaded SS and a GT500 are about in the same price range. IMO, the Camaro is waayy over priced.
Um I don't know where you are getting your GT500 price, but MSRP on a 2010base model is like 47k, and the vert is over 50k, the 2SS is just over 34k. even with the RS package you still come in shy of 35.5K. So I don't see how you can consider these comprably priced. Base model comparison there is a 13k difference. Sure you can load your SS up with all the options and get the price up there, but do you really need your engine cover to match the exterior, or the orange accent package, or hell even the 4k dollar rims?
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^True
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But the mustang with trackpack outhandled the new 5th gen WTF thats sad in my book.
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Wow, really? I just completely upgraded my suspension and this car is near if not > 1G handling. BMW's are my bitch now. The "track pak" is mild compared to my setup.

Upgrading the suspension on this S197 has been the most fullfulling thing I've done to a car in a long time. Hella fun.
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No....you need to go back and re-read the articles. They still want the camaro suspension over the mustang with track pack.
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Hmmm, I'll have to do that. I'm intrigued with the IRS on the camaro, but the car is so heavy at 3800lbs. We'll see how well she handles on the track. Link the articles, I'd like to see them.
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I thought my car had "great" brakes but after upgrading the suspension I now see the stock GT brakes are SEVERELY inadequate. I was thrilled with the braking until I upgraded the suspension and now the brakes are my weak point. Lotsa fun upgrading this car but expensive. Aftermarket brakes are so f-in expensive. I my just go slotted calipers, better pads and S/S lines...

for every upgrade you do, you realize it has revealed another weak point in the factory parts. These cars are so underengineered it's pathetic.
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^ why are we talking about your car at all? I will find some links showing where the stang fell short of the camaro's numbers, believe me there are quite a few categories...
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Originally Posted by phirepower
^ why are we talking about your car at all? I will find some links showing where the stang fell short of the camaro's numbers, believe me there are quite a few categories...
Yea, it fell very short in one particular category...........weight. The only "numbers" where the Camaro dominated was in acceleration (0-60, 1/4 mile). The GT was neck n neck with it in braking tests........some mags had the GT coming out ahead, others did better with the Camaro. The GT put up the better skid pad numbers, and the GT and Camaro were neck n neck again for slalom passes. Those are the only "numbers" that these test listed results for. Everything else was about driving impressions of the three. The Challenger was the softest, most cruiser like. The Mustang was the most raw, old school like. And the Camaro was the most balanced overall in performance, comfort, etc.

I've read/watched just about all the 3 way comparisons that I could find on the net....and the results are usually along these same lines.

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