Corvette Performance - LG Motorsports has done it again Allngn_c5 drove home the new 402 !!

1220 miles driven, 53 gallons used and still 3/4's of a tank left for later :) adds up to a bunch of fun, a few races with X factor Pittbull (very cool person), some test driving at LGM, 3 dyno pulls, and then the drive home. It all adds up to an HONEST real world 23 mpg. I didn't use the cruise control on the way home. New motor and all I was varying the speed between 65 and 85 as much as I could, had cruise control been used the number would've been significantly higher. Actually it was less then 53 gallons but who wants to split hairs. A 402 that was driven for over 1200 miles with plenty of stops due to my sore legs LOL, plus a few races, and dyno time that put out an honest 23 mpg + lays down 517.3 rwhp with 513.8 rwtq is amazing in my opinion. Speaks volumes of the quality of LG Motorsports workmanship. I am very happy with the power she makes, too bad the Run flats wouldn't let me hook up very much of it. Still a lot more fun then the old h/c 346. Idle is dead on at 1025 rpms. Drivability is much improved. The extra cubes really tame the g6x3. Good choice of cam for anyone doing a stroker that is looking for tons of power under the curve. Especially when used with afr 205's. Compression is just a hair under 11.1 to 1 so no real need to push 11.5 or higher to make big power, sorry no DCR #. Everything about this build is better then the last motor. I am however trying to adjust to the calm exhaust note after being used to the thunderous bullets. Not complaining, actually quite happy because I don't have a headache from the noise level. Good deep and refined sound, and you can hear the person in the passenger seat, also the important 3 honks in the event of a race.... :)

Want to thank everyone at LG Motorsports, I'll start with the big guy Lou Gigliotti, his son Louis, Bobby, Anthony, Sean, and last but not least Mikey. Everyone did a great job on this project, and I am very pleased with the results. Don't want to forget Jonathan, hey brother thank you very much for picking me up at the airport. Funny thing though, the LGM limo looked like a Nissan Pathfinder, and where was the red carpert ?? Thanks man, and nice to finally meet you.

Also need to throw a thank you out to Ron at Vengeance Racing for going above and beyond by making the ported FAST 92 a work of art. Great job Ron.

Can't forget Tracy Lewis at RevXtreme. Thank you so much for putting the icing on the cake. The tb issue we had was a real let down. I really appreciated how you stepped up with a willingness to correct the issue and get it back to LGM so quickly. Thanks again Tracy, couldn't have done it without your tb modding.

Oh yeah, Brandon aka X factor Pittbulls, thanks for meeting me up at the shop. Very nice to meet you, and thanks for testing my 402 frc with your 3200lb 4.10 geared 415 stroker camaro. I was shocked that we were even on the second race. Must've been the VHT. That shit works.

Glad you made it back ok buddy. Go to sleep! Have fun and send vids as you collect them.:devil:

BTW my tire pressure wasn't optimum for the ride home from texas either. I left 80 degree weather and 32 psi all around when hot, and drove through 70's, 60's and so on until I made the turn north and she really cooled down after the sun dipped out. I wathced the hot tire pressure dip to 28 all around and I didn't add air because it was actually helping with traction a little. Had the tires been 35 all round the rolling resistance would've been reduced and the mileage would've been better too.

Glad you made it back ok buddy. Go to sleep! Have fun and send vids as you collect them.:devil:

Thanks Bobby, I'll get back to you about the car after I get some rest.

Congrats man! Be careful :D

I'll check back later. I am tired as hell. Haven't slept in basically 2 days. LOL. So much for hitting the gym. I'm going to sleep my ass off.

Congrats on getting the car home. Its been a long journey.

Congrats Doug.

Enjoy many miles of smiles....but for now wipe that $hit eating grin off your face and get some sleep. :nod:


Stay tuned (no pun intended). FAST 102 next month. :D
Kevin

Good job, Doug! I'll have to get down there to touch'em off with you when the salt is off the roads and the snow disapears. Get some sleep!!

Congrats on the new motor! Great write up!

Any further info on the races or setup in the other car? :devil:

Awesome that you've finally got the car back! I told you those street tires would be useless! Can't wait to see some vids!

HAVe fun DOUG
THe torque is unreal isnt it

HAVe fun DOUG
THe torque is unreal isnt it

You said it man. The runflats on the back were getting bad, but after the trip home they are basically done. Skipping gears was the only way to get her to move without much spin. I'll let you know how the PS2, and Nitto Dr do on the back.

Awesome that you've finally got the car back! I told you those street tires would be useless! Can't wait to see some vids!

I didn't doubt you bro, but I knew I'd have to exercise some serious restraint on the throttle unless I wanted to just sit there and spin. VHT worked wonders for my "test" runs against Brandon's 99 z28 m6 410's with a 415 stroker!! He got out on me the first time, and the second time we were neck and neck. Would've loved to see what would've happened had we been able to go for more then a gear or two. Highway 78 in Texas is so smooth.

Awesome that you've finally got the car back! I told you those street tires would be useless! Can't wait to see some vids!

They were good enough to run even with Brandon aka xfactor pitbulls' 99 z28 m6 415 stroker with 410 gears. That is once a little VHT was applied.

Brandon pulled me on the first "test run", but on the second we were even. He's got a strong ass car. He said she weighs 3200 lbs due to all the stuff thats been removed.

Excellent results Doug - One Bad Ride you have!

I agree - LG Motorsports is the Best Shop in the US.

Have fun with all that power!

Joel G

After the long drive home, and trying to get myself to go to sleep I was able to get 8 hours. That doesn't sound like much, but I never sleep for more then 3 or 4 hours anyways so to get 8 uninterrupted hours was a blessing.

Thanks Joel G.

After the long drive home, and trying to get myself to go to sleep I was able to get 8 hours. That doesn't sound like much, but I never sleep for more then 3 or 4 hours anyways so to get 8 uninterrupted hours was a blessing.

Thanks Joel G.

That sounds like one great build that Lou and the boys provided you with.I know exactly how you feel when the project is completed and your totally satisfied with the results. :D

Milan Dragway opens up on 4/4/09,don't forget to PM me when your ready to make a few passes...until then good luck with that new power plant.

So after 6 mos you are finally getting to drive it! I bet it is everything you had hoped. Now just enjoy. Congrats.

That sounds like one great build that Lou and the boys provided you with.I know exactly how you feel when the project is completed and your totally satisfied with the results. :D

Milan Dragway opens up on 4/4/09,don't forget to PM me when your ready to make a few passes...until then good luck with that new power plant.

I am waiting for my wheels/tires via UPS. I couldn't drive the car 1200+ miles on a set of DR's. The sidewall might not have liked it, so I drove home on the runflats for safety, and they taught me to respect the car. She almost got away from me a couple times.


So after 6 mos you are finally getting to drive it! I bet it is everything you had hoped. Now just enjoy. Congrats.

I plan on changing the oil today, or tomorrow and then putting some miles on her with a trip to Central Michigan to visit friends.

Congrats! I'm sure you are stoked.

I've got my car going in for some surgery and I can't wait to get her back....

Congrats! I'm sure you are stoked.

I've got my car going in for some surgery and I can't wait to get her back....

Thanks a lot man. What kind of surgery and who's doing the operation ??

Post here or PM me if you want to keep it quiet until she's done. :secret2:

Congrats on getting your vette back!!!

Congrats doug!

Driving a car w/ around 600 FWHP over a 1,000 miles....with all the comforts of a luxery car, and over 23 MPG would have beeen unheard of 25 years ago! Congrats to all involved. :thumb:

Doug, Did you sleep in your car when you got her home or the bed.......

Its about time.........:D

I slept on the couch actually. I fell asleep in front of the boob tube and woke up about 8 hours later. Grabbed a chicken breast outta the fridge then went back to sleep for another 2 hours before I had to get up for work.

A little update on this thing !!!!!!!!!!!

4th gear pulls from 100-150 and 5th gear pulls from 100-170 are absolutely amazing. A h/c 346 can't compare to a h/c 402, even if the h/c is reused. LOL. The extra torque just pins you to your seat. Both of my passengers tonight couldn't believe it. One of them is a master tech for a gm dealership up here and he recently test drove the new ZR1 for an out of state customer that was complaining of a faulty traction control message. Customer said its always on. John drove it and said there was nothing wrong, just don't give it so much gas. LOL. When he compared the pull of my car to the new ZR1 I was shocked. He said close, but the ZR1 has me by a little. Oh well, I'm N/A not supercharged. He said you got a good point there.

Anyone on the fence about doing a stroker ?? If you can afford it, then do it. Don't second guess it. LG Motorsports can handle the job too. They exceeded my expectations.

I have followed your build threads and so forth. Awesome to hear how the car actually feels now. My 404 is being built this week and I am coming from 475rwhp, 430ftlbs HCI from my LS2. I figured low 500rwhp with the 404, yet I was a little concerned about only gaining 30-40rwhp at peak. But after reading your experiences, looks like the power under the curve is going to be an amazing difference! I am going with a little bit bigger cam, stage III 243 heads (340cfm, 240), ported FAST/TB and supporting mods. I hope I will be as satisfied as you. BTW, what gears do you have in your Vette?

I have 3.42 gears and thanks for the comments. I appreciate it. Sending you a pm.

Driving a car w/ around 600 FWHP over a 1,000 miles....with all the comforts of a luxery car, and over 23 MPG would have beeen unheard of 25 years ago! Congrats to all involved. :thumb:

You said it Tracy. Thanks again for all the help you gave in corrected the tb. It must've been one of the early production units (purchased 3/08 thru Ron@Vengeance Racing)

Texas to Michigan 1200+ mile trip that overall averaged 23 mpg was a lot lower then what this motor will do, mostly because of varying the speeds to assist final break in, and running the a/c. When I am able to take her on a trip up north with the cruise control set at 70 or so in 6th gear and no A/C robbing my mpg, I'll bet 28 mpg all day. Should be making a 120 mile run soon. Should give an idea at least. I'll fill up here, and then when I get there and report back the results. Stay tuned....

I'm glad your happy, and it's all working out for you. Now you need to run someone to get some sort of idea of what type of monster you put together.

I'm glad your happy, and it's all working out for you. Now you need to run someone to get some sort of idea of what type of monster you put together.

Well courtesy of Brandon aka X Factor Pittbulls and his 10 second 415 ci Stroker, 4.10 geared 99 z28 I do. He got out on me the first "just for fun" run, and then the second run we were dead even. I just wish we could've took the run a little higher (MPH), but due to traffic that was it for the day. Thanks again for coming out Brandon. How did the pictures you took turn out ?? Can you email them to me ??

What do Brandon's timeslips look like? 415" and 4.10 gears without severe traction problems, I would of thought he would of got out in front of you.

What do Brandon's timeslips look like? 415" and 4.10 gears without severe traction problems, I would of thought he would of got out in front of you.

I don't know what Brandon's time slips look like, and Brandon did get out in front of me the first time. My tires were pretty warm after all the spinning, and after Sean put VHT on them there was a noticeable increase in grip.

Maybe Brandon can chime in. He rode with me and knows the car is fast, and we also "raced, for fun" twice. So I'll let him post his opinion on my car.

I have 3.42 gears and thanks for the comments. I appreciate it. Sending you a pm.

Congrats on the build! That was a long ride home!! I know exactly how you feel about the 402, my Vengeance Racing built 402 is awesome! I went with a RPM 3.73 stage 2 diff in mine and it is like a rocket. Enjoy the 402:D

Congrats on the return home!

Congrates Doug on getting the car home! Nice long drive you had, lol! That thing must be insane with all that power. Those tires will surely help out big time.

Congrats on the build! That was a long ride home!! I know exactly how you feel about the 402, my Vengeance Racing built 402 is awesome! I went with a RPM 3.73 stage 2 diff in mine and it is like a rocket. Enjoy the 402:D

When I say she pulls like a rocket to 170, then I am sure you know what I am talking about bro.


Thanks to everyone for the nice comments, and the glad I made it home safe posts. There were a few times on the road I was on the verge of falling asleep. Caffeine can only do so much. Again thanks for the kind words.

Hey man, real glad to see you got her home no problem. I bet it feels amazing to finally have her back home.

^^^ You said it brother, now I am just waiting for my tires and rims that I left at LGM to be dropped off by UPS :)

I am going to swap the Run Flats that aren't as bad as everyone says, just need to get them up to temp before you try anything more then a gentle roll. Cold they suck.

First I'll throw my 295 35r18 Michelin PS2 on and test them out. Second I'll swap the Michelins for my Nitto Drags 305 35r18. I already know the DRs will hook the best, but I want to go have some fun and need the PS2's for what I want to do. Anyways the PS2's will be a nice step up from the run flats, and the DRs will be a step up from the PS2's, so I am just trying to learn how to drive the car again with more traction each time.

I am going to swap the Run Flats that aren't as bad as everyone says, just need to get them up to temp before you try anything more then a gentle roll. Cold they suck.

First I'll throw my 295 35r18 Michelin PS2 on and test them out. Second I'll swap the Michelins for my Nitto Drags 305 35r18. I already know the DRs will hook the best, but I want to go have some fun and need the PS2's for what I want to do. Anyways the PS2's will be a nice step up from the run flats, and the DRs will be a step up from the PS2's, so I am just trying to learn how to drive the car again with more traction each time.

You think the drag radials will hook, lol!! I can say with the power and torque numbers you are going to have a rough time at the DRs hooking even at the track. Hell, on the street I can even spin my ET Streets all the way through first gear.

You think the drag radials will hook, lol!! I can say with the power and torque numbers you are going to have a rough time at the DRs hooking even at the track. Hell, on the street I can even spin my ET Streets all the way through first gear.

Mark, I never said anything about hooking, I only mentioned that each tire provides a little better grip then the previous. Worst runflats, DRs Best and ps2's in the middle. I know the DRs won't hold if I come out of the hole with any kind of rpms, so I'll simply roll 1st gear and hope she holds 2nd and so on.

Back to my comments on the run flats, when they are cold you can't get shit from them. If you warm them up a bit by driving and/or spinning them to heat them they do act better. Not much, but better then when they are cold. I have found that 1/3 to 1/2 throttle is all you can use in first gear. 1/3 throttle and as you get some momentum gradually go to 1/2, anymore and all she does is spin. 2nd gear can handle 1/2 throttle or a bit more, 3rd gear will hold from 1/2 to 3/4 but WOT spins, and when you get 4th gear the heated runflats finally grab. Hope that clarifies things Mark. Hopefully the PS2's will perform marginally better then the runflats, and then for some real street fun the DRs should grab 2nd on up making her feel even quicker. JMO's

:)

can't believe you even have runflats on your car, lol.
The Ps2's will be a bit better than the runcraps. Bring the pressure down a few pounds and try it out. The drag radials will be a helluva alot better, run about 26 psi in them. I have driven to denver and back on drag radials, not one problem other than the rough roads in colorado eating them up.

Sorry bro, but I was nervous about driving 1200 miles on DR's. Anthony at LGM was a bit concerned as well. I really don't like the mushy (soft) feeling of the DR's when going around curves. Besides my Run flats were shipped in the trailer with the car so it just seemed logical. If I lose air pressure with the RF's then I can baby it to a service center. I get a flat with the DR's and I am stuck. Now you see the logic. NO AAA either. Just out there winging it. I've made the trip several times and its easy but damn is it a long trip when riding solo.

Yea it had to of been a long ass ride for you. I'm sure alot of it was tons of fun.
I have autox'ed my vette once before with the nitto drag radials and car felt planted to the ground. Even in the rocky mountains it was a blast. Was nice to have the ass end of the car stick to the ground than worry about it breaking loose.

I can understand worrying about getting a flat tho.

I'm sure it will be great to get a set of tires that hook so you can really feel the power of the new motor.

can't wait to see the video's of the car doug!
How do you like the sound of the Big 3 catback?

can't wait to see the video's of the car doug!
How do you like the sound of the Big 3 catback?

I like it just fine, it has a much smoother refined vs wild sound. I have to admit I miss the nascar sound of the bullets a little, but prefer having better flow. Also the big 3's sound doesn't wake my neighbors up like the bullets did, but then again I haven't come home late, or left early yet so we'll see.

To be perfectly clear though, the Big 3 is rather tame at idle, and does get wild at WOT. Kind of the best of both worlds. I think that's what LGM was trying to offer the customer.

I like it just fine, it has a much smoother refined vs wild sound. I have to admit I miss the nascar sound of the bullets a little, but prefer having better flow. Also the big 3's sound doesn't wake my neighbors up like the bullets did, but then again I haven't come home late, or left early yet so we'll see.

To be perfectly clear though, the Big 3 is rather tame at idle, and does get wild at WOT. Kind of the best of both worlds. I think that's what LGM was trying to offer the customer.

cool, that is what I like about the stock ti. At idle it is tame, even tho you can hear the lope. Cruising the car is really quiet till you lay in it. Then above 4500 rpms it gets loud.

The big 3 is louder then the zo6 Ti system. I'd say around 2500-3000 rpms the DB's start coming up and continue to rise as the RPMS do.

:devil:

Good to see you made it home safe Doug. Sorry I could not make it out. I have been working non stop. Enjoy all that new found power and keep us updated!

Good to see you made it home safe Doug. Sorry I could not make it out. I have been working non stop. Enjoy all that new found power and keep us updated!


Thanks and no problem man. Your car is the one I wanted to line up against. Should've been a good run considering your gearing advantage, amd my extra torque.

Glad to hear you are working. I just put in 13 1/2 hours of OT the last 2 days on top of my regular shifts. Thank God I have a great job.

I don't know what Brandon's time slips look like, and Brandon did get out in front of me the first time. My tires were pretty warm after all the spinning, and after Sean put VHT on them there was a noticeable increase in grip.

Maybe Brandon can chime in. He rode with me and knows the car is fast, and we also "raced, for fun" twice. So I'll let him post his opinion on my car.

Doug's car pulls hard and its very linear. If he had anymore gear than the 3.42s there is no way it could have kept traction. I was running with the exhaust all the way out the back and cutout closed. No to mention granny shifting the gears due to lackluster hydraulics of late. Either way you look at it, he would probably start walking away from me at around 120 and not look back. Keep in mind my 416 is only 10.75:1 and meant to have the heads swapped, as we are going to soon for low compression. It makes around 515-520/490 with Dart heads milled down to 60cc. Not great for a big bore trying to move a bunch of air. Still undefeated in the ricer world of roll racing :devil:.

Brandon

Thanks for chiming in Brandon. Better tires would've helped too. Great pics you took and sent me. Appreciate it. Gotta hit the gym an get myself into shape for summer.

Still undefeated in the ricer world of roll racing :devil:.

Brandon

Sounds like us ricers need to line em up! :engarde:

Good deal!!

The big 3 is louder then the zo6 Ti system. I'd say around 2500-3000 rpms the DB's start coming up and continue to rise as the RPMS do.

:devil:



....lol... I couldn't believe that I was even able to hear you when I was talking to you on the phone while you were driving. That shit just isn't possible in my car without alot of "WHHHHATS...HUGHHHH'S....NO SPEAK UP,..I'M IN THE CAR".... etc. It seemed(your car with the new catbacl),..near stock/docile. Almost didn't think you were actually in a car. Thats pretty cool.


Glad you got your baby back man,... i know it's a great feeling. Gives you a chance to step away from reality once you hop behind the wheel. All our problems are still there while were driving these things but,...sure don't think a whole lot about them when were sporting 500 ft-lbs from all motor. The guys did a nice job, hats off to them all. Looking forward to some,...ah,.."testing" videos. Ya know, the kind you test against another vehicle?.... Yeah,.. looking forward to those homles.

Take it easy man.

Sounds like us ricers need to line em up! :engarde:

Hollar shoot me a pm with your contact info.

Hollar shoot me a pm with your contact info.

Brandon, you and Adam should be a good race.

Brandon, you and Adam should be a good race.


Yeah, unless I get motivated and throw the dumped duals on it. About +15hp/10tq. Doubt I will though.

wicked doug. glad to hear man. wheres the videos at brahh? lol

wicked doug. glad to hear man. wheres the videos at brahh? lol

Just waiting on some tires. My DRs and rims were left at LGM due to the concern of a possible flat somewhere along the 1200 mile trip so I drove home on runflats. Better to be safe then sorry.

You can actually drive on the run flats. Too bad 1st gear goes up in smoke with more then 30% throttle and 2nd at 50%, and 3rd at 70%. Had my buddy read the scanner to me while driving (Throttle %) just so I could better guesstimate the limits of the RF's. I couldn't win a race against anything right now unless I manage the throttle perfectly thru the first 2 gears. A roll from 80 mph I'd probably be able to hold 3rd at WOT but not 100% sure. She gets real squirrely back there, but is a little better when running a full tank of gas at least. Just filled up :)