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Old 03-20-2009, 01:41 PM
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Default 4l80e swap..Driveline

I'm rebuilding a 4l80e for a swap (until I can afford a FLT unit), and am just curious if anyone knows of a driveline that might be a direct bolt-in for my 96 firebird.

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The 4L60E in F bodies and the 4L80E are the same length. You can use the stock driveshaft (with a conversion U joint and a new transmission slip yoke).

Make sure its a later model LS1 4L60E driveshaft....I think the older trannies are shorter.
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Originally Posted by slow67
The 4L60E in F bodies and the 4L80E are the same length. You can use the stock driveshaft (with a conversion U joint and a new transmission slip yoke).

Make sure its a later model LS1 4L60E driveshaft....I think the older trannies are shorter.
I know the LT1 4L60e's are shorter, not sure on LS1's. Dont know the original posters engine.

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i reused my driveshaft in my swap.
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Only problem with the 96 is the standalone controller or going FMVB. The LS1 D/s is the same length i just had to swap the u joint.
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Originally Posted by MUSTANGBRKR02
Only problem with the 96 is the standalone controller or going FMVB. The LS1 D/s is the same length i just had to swap the u joint.

Trans is from a 00 2500 expressvan, and I'm having the converter built to match the flexplate of the ffi lq4/l92 that I'm building for the swap. All of the vehicle wiring and ecu is being swapped to 2000 f-body, so my understanding is that the ecu should control the 4l80e without any problems other than a trans-harness modification and a few re-pins at the ecu......does this sound correct??
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Originally Posted by salemetro
Trans is from a 00 2500 expressvan, and I'm having the converter built to match the flexplate of the ffi lq4/l92 that I'm building for the swap. All of the vehicle wiring and ecu is being swapped to 2000 f-body, so my understanding is that the ecu should control the 4l80e without any problems other than a trans-harness modification and a few re-pins at the ecu......does this sound correct??
Yep. I am controlling my 4L80 with my 2000 computer.
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Originally Posted by slow67
Yep. I am controlling my 4L80 with my 2000 computer.
Who made the ECM programming change, and what did it entail????
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How does the stock 4L80 compare to a built 4l60???? I might go this route if its cheaper and easy!
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Originally Posted by Lafngas
Who made the ECM programming change, and what did it entail????
I already had HPtuners. I sent my tune to support@hptuners.com, and a few days later, I had an email back with the tranny segment swapped. I did a write entire, and I was done.

A stock 4L80E should be good to 500-600rwhp stock, maybe more if the RPMs are kept down. Parish8 made into the 10s in a pickup with a stock one. If you do keep it stock, I recommend the Transgo shift kit that dual feeds the direct drum, it helps out with strength a lot.
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Does anyone know if I can use my stock M6 drive shaft on a 4l80E swap with the stock rear (swaping yokes), In other words, will the length work?

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yes length should be fine same as a A4 i believe.
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Thanks.
Cool, that should let me get this up and running with the stock rear until I can afford a midwest 9".
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Originally Posted by blueflamespl
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Cool, that should let me get this up and running with the stock rear until I can afford a midwest 9".

Same here. Stock d/s 10 bolt.
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Originally Posted by blueflamespl
Does anyone know if I can use my stock M6 drive shaft on a 4l80E swap with the stock rear (swaping yokes), In other words, will the length work?

Kurt
you should check the length. the slip yoke should be 3/4-1" from bottoming out on the output shaft with the suspension fully loaded. If it's too long or too short you could do some damage.

On my car the stock DS is a tad shorter than I'd like it to be but figure it'll be ok for a test ride or two. This is with a Strange U1650 yoke.
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Originally Posted by ShevrolayZ28
you should check the length. the slip yoke should be 3/4-1" from bottoming out on the output shaft with the suspension fully loaded. If it's too long or too short you could do some damage.

On my car the stock DS is a tad shorter than I'd like it to be but figure it'll be ok for a test ride or two. This is with a Strange U1650 yoke.
My 4L80 has a fully splined output shaft, so I got the 7" yoke, so the little extra that sticks out is ok for me.
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i have a question, i have the yoke that was originally in the tranny and going to get a conversion u-jount, but the yoke will go in 3/4 than will stop but you can push it all the way in with little force but will pop out when you let go to me it seems like it is building up air pressure inside the yoke. The yoke doesn't have a hole in the end to let out air.
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Originally Posted by slow67
My 4L80 has a fully splined output shaft, so I got the 7" yoke, so the little extra that sticks out is ok for me.
7" from center of u-joint to center of u-joint? Or 7" overall? The one I am using is 5.5" from center to center.
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Originally Posted by chevyz2801
i have a question, i have the yoke that was originally in the tranny and going to get a conversion u-jount, but the yoke will go in 3/4 than will stop but you can push it all the way in with little force but will pop out when you let go to me it seems like it is building up air pressure inside the yoke. The yoke doesn't have a hole in the end to let out air.
It is an O-ring inside the tailhousing. Do yourself a favor, and get an aftermarket yoke. Some people have had a VERY difficult time finding a conversion yoke for the stock 4L80 one. Its some wierd oddball one.

When you do switch yokes, put a regular (non-booted) rear seal on it, and take off the O ring (it is inside a pressed on sleeve on the tailshaft).
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do you know any of the part # i will need and thanks

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