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Track Times with the Cadillac Cam finally!

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Default Track Times with the Cadillac Cam finally!

So guys. . . i know for the longest time i have been promising some track times for my Cadillac Cammed A4. . . here are the results.

12.93 @ 104.6 with a 1.9 60'

that was the first run of the night and my first time running at the track with the new 3200 rpms stall converter.

Cars mods are: Pacesetter LT's, e cut-out, SLP CAI, U/D pullies, Cadillac Cam 1.6RR's, rebuilt tranny with Edge 3200RPM stall, and a tune.

I think with a little more practice the car is capable of pulling at least a 1.8 60' dropped my 1/4 time to about a 12.7

next mod is hopefully a bigger throttle body

ohh and also that was with a DA of 1830

and the time corrected would be a 12.66 @ 106.8

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nice, any 1/4 mile times before the cam?
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA
So guys. . . i know for the longest time i have been promising some track times for my Cadillac Cammed A4. . . here are the results.

12.93 @ 104.6 with a 1.9 60'

that was the first run of the night and my first time running at the track with the new 3200 rpms stall converter.

Cars mods are: Pacesetter LT's, e cut-out, SLP CAI, U/D pullies, Cadillac Cam 1.6RR's, rebuilt tranny with Edge 3200RPM stall, and a tune.

I think with a little more practice the car is capable of pulling at least a 1.8 60' dropped my 1/4 time to about a 12.7

next mod is hopefully a bigger throttle body

ohh and also that was with a DA of 1830

and the time corrected would be a 12.66 @ 106.8
The real question I'd like to know is what times would that cam run with stock manifolds, since that's what it was cut for.
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Originally Posted by Badazz 97 TA
nice, any 1/4 mile times before the cam?
no, sorry never ran the car prior to the cam.

blew a head gasket and found the cam had a few scratched lopes and also had 2 or 3 stuck lifters so everything in the valve train was replaced.

Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
The real question I'd like to know is what times would that cam run with stock manifolds, since that's what it was cut for.

yea i'd be interested to know as well.
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Not bad at all!!!! Work that 60ft down and your see some good gains on the top end!
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What tire and your running and gear?
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Originally Posted by slick1851
What tire and your running and gear?
nitto NT555R's 245 and 3.23 gears
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Good for you, a few questions though. Have you at least put a mail order tune in the car? How are you using the converter, stalling it up or flashing it?
Iv'e only used two types of DRs, MT and Nittos. With the Nittos I had to run 15-16 lbs. cold and do a real long burn-out. I think with some tweaking and a good air day you should see some mid 12s.
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With that MPH, I don't see much more than a 12.8...
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
Good for you, a few questions though. Have you at least put a mail order tune in the car? How are you using the converter, stalling it up or flashing it?
Iv'e only used two types of DRs, MT and Nittos. With the Nittos I had to run 15-16 lbs. cold and do a real long burn-out. I think with some tweaking and a good air day you should see some mid 12s.
i've got a tune, and i was running 36lbs of air in the tires, didnt even think about lowering the pressure because i was in such a hurry to make the second pass before the track closed. tons of ricers out there cause F&F friday night. and i stalled the converter up the first time to about 1500rpms, the second run i tried 2000rpms and gave it a little to much outa the hole and ended up running a 13.1 with a 2.0 60'.

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With that MPH, I don't see much more than a 12.8...
well if i can hit a 1.8 60' theoretically i'd be pulling a 12.7.

so really all the improvement i need to make is in my 60' times. and this was my first time at the track with an A/M stall in general, let alone it being a 3200.

and i dont see why i wouldnt be able to pull a lower time if i drop more off my 60' with some stickier tires like M/T's or something.
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I think most will recommend not running the air pressure that high (street driving) or you'll wear the middle of the tire. I run 25lbs. cold on the street. Try flashing the converter next chance you get, you might be surprised.
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
I think most will recommend not running the air pressure that high (street driving) or you'll wear the middle of the tire. I run 25lbs. cold on the street. Try flashing the converter next chance you get, you might be surprised.
Well thats the pressure Discount Tire put in them, and personally how they wear really doesnt matter to me much, my buddy is a manager and i can just put a nail in both tires and get new ones cheap as dirt since i have the warranty.

and what do you mean flashing the converter exactly?
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA


well if i can hit a 1.8 60' theoretically i'd be pulling a 12.7.
If you get the 60' down a bit, you might squeeze a high 12.7 in super good weather, but I'm not so sure you'll see much more than that. Trap speed is an indication of the power of your car, and you're a little on the low side.

JMHO of course. Nice numbers regardless.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
If you get the 60' down a bit, you might squeeze a high 12.7 in super good weather, but I'm not so sure you'll see much more than that. Trap speed is an indication of the power of your car, and you're a little on the low side.

JMHO of course. Nice numbers regardless.
yea i understand trap speed is a good indicator, but i think might be able to squeeze a little more trap speed wise out of the car too, my second run my trap speed was a full mile an hour slower cause i messed the launch up just a little bit. and i dont think my first run was the best launch i could pull either.

but who knows. . . i should be going back next weekend and plan on making several passes playing with how i launch and what not to see what kinda numbers i can produce.
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Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
I think most will recommend not running the air pressure that high (street driving) or you'll wear the middle of the tire. I run 25lbs. cold on the street. Try flashing the converter next chance you get, you might be surprised.
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Well thats the pressure Discount Tire put in them, and personally how they wear really doesnt matter to me much, my buddy is a manager and i can just put a nail in both tires and get new ones cheap as dirt since i have the warranty.

and what do you mean flashing the converter exactly?
Ok just did a little searching and reading and found out what you ment by flashing.

and the first run it seemed like i did flash the converter cause i rocket'd out of the hole, the second run it did not seem like i did and the time slips would agree.

but what you are talking about it holding the rpm's at about say 2300 [my stall is a 3200] and right as the last yellow light goes, stabbing the throttle so it flashes the converter higher than the stall speed typically would be, instead of just leaving off the rpm im stalling it to waiting for the tree.

correct me if im wrong please.
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA
Well thats the pressure Discount Tire put in them, and personally how they wear really doesnt matter to me much, my buddy is a manager and i can just put a nail in both tires and get new ones cheap as dirt since i have the warranty.

and what do you mean flashing the converter exactly?
Nice having a tire buddy like that. Flashing the converter, when your staged just let it idle and punch it. Try that a few times and then try 1000rpm and then 1200 rpm etc, etc.
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
Nice having a tire buddy like that. Flashing the converter, when your staged just let it idle and punch it. Try that a few times and then try 1000rpm and then 1200 rpm etc, etc.
Yea def nice having a tire buddy haha!

and ill def try just smashing it off idle from the start, as well as playing a little more with the tire pressure this comming weekend when i go again

thanks for the read guys! hopefully i can come back next monday with at least a 12.8 . . . hopefully a 12.7
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How much is the Cadillac cam? Does it drive, and sound, like stock?
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Originally Posted by BTC
How much is the Cadillac cam? Does it drive, and sound, like stock?
With headers I'd recommend going with a larger cam.

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