c5formula

iTrader: (55)

ive got a 1999 z28 camaro with a 2000 transam motor in it an im about to swap the cam out with an 02+ ls6 cam an i was wondering what all im gonna need to do this?

ive already got a set of new ls6 springs an the cam should be here this week. what else am i gonna need to put this cam in? Pushrods? gaskets? etc???

any help would be greatly appriciated. thanks

ramairracer

iTrader: (13)

with that small cam, i would reuse the pushrods, and i think you can reuse the front cover gasket, just buy a new crank bolt and a pair of water pump gaskets, your vavle cover gaskets should be n god enough shape to reuse,

david vericker

iTrader: (1)

You will need to change the push rods.The LS6 cam has smaller lobes than the LS1.

thunderstruck507

iTrader: (18)

not to mention if I were pulling push rods I would replace them even on a stock cam from what i hear about how weak they are

c5formula

iTrader: (55)

yeah i figured i would have to replace the pushrods. what length should i go with an what kind? is there like a cheap hardend set i could go with as i dont really wanna spend $120 on some comp hitech or magnums...

eseibel67

iTrader: (10)

You will need 7.425 pushrods.

Put in an LS2 timing chain while your in there. Only $37 from SDPC.

New oil pump "O" ring as well.

beedo

iTrader: (28)

Not being an *** but do a search on the pushrods, reason being you will get just as many telling you to get longer hardened ones as you will to run the stockers. I personally am using the stockers and I have had no trouble nor will you. Why replace them if there is nothing wrong with using them? The .025'' is within the recommended preload specs on the lifter, and actually when I checked mine it was around .018'' to be back to OPTIMUM length. You can replace them if you want and they are not "weak" by any means when you are running a stock cam. I would upgrade to a set of Pac springs though, you will probably want something a little bigger in the future as I have and I wish I done the PAC springs so I wouldnt have to do them again this weekend. The cam will sound and idle like stock, it has the stock idle set on my car and running the stock converter. But to answer your question get a front crank seal, balancer bolt, you can reuse the cover gasket but get one in case it gets damaged and for the price of it I would replace it anyway. Valve cover gaskets are a bitch to reuse if the come out, they always seem to long after they have been installed and you usally have to glue them in with some super 77 or ol' yella trim adhesive. If you need help send me a pm I have done more cam swaps than I can even count.

PREDATOR-Z

GM ofset that difference by running longer valves. It is better to run longer p-rods for higher rpm stability. Stock p-rods flex.

beedo

iTrader: (28)

I know that but why spend the money on a set of pushrods that you don't need????? You are looking at .025'' and that is well within the recommended lifter preload tolerance, I do not remember it has been a year but I measured mine needed to be .018'' longer to get to the optimum length and that would have put me right in the middle. The OP can do as he pleases I did and I was pleased, now its time to go bigger. There is no more or less valvetrain noise than there was with the LS1 cam, the valve wipe pattern looks to be right on as well. I do not want to get in to a pissing match this is what I did, and like I said search will get him the same answers and debates. !!!!!

c5formula

iTrader: (55)

well the motor only has 17k on it so do you think that i will have to have a timing chain? also do you guys think it will be ok to run a set of 1.8rr with this cam on a stock motor?

mvvette97

iTrader: (18)

the timing chain will be fine but for the price of an LS2 chain I would just put one in. They are alot thicker. You can run the 1.8 rockers no problem with that cam but then you may have to get a little better springs. I'm not sure how much lift the LS6 cam has but I'm guessing with 1.8 rockers you will be pushing the limit of the spring. Also from what I hear you will probably need to get different pushrods with the other rockers so that you are able to get the correct preload and wife pattern. In my opinion the rockers are not worth it.

c5formula

iTrader: (55)

well the lift on the ls6 cam is 551/547 i think an from what ive read on the mti stealth cam an the gt2-3 cam they use the ls6 springs with both of those cams having close to 580 lift??

mvvette97

iTrader: (18)

i wouldn't push it. Any time you push a spring to it's limits a failure can happen really easy. Even if it doesn't break it will not last very long before it gets really weak and causes valve float

PREDATOR-Z

Why would you spend $$ for a cheap cam and then more $$ for 1.8s?
Just get a cam with more lift like the GT2-3, you can still use the springs (good to .580 lift) because of the lobes (soft).
Still would get the right p-rods.

c5formula

iTrader: (55)

yeah i probably will just stay with the stock rockers an iv already picked up an ls6 cam for pretty cheap an new ls6 yellows for super cheap. so is there an inexpensive P-rod that i could use? all the ones iv seen are $120 an up...

thunderstruck507

iTrader: (18)

I agree, plus if you were ever to decide to go to a bigger cam later then you'll most likely have to go back to stock rockers because most cams don't like higher ratio rockers.

Just my $.02 though you might have a very good reason so I'm not trying to be an *** about it.

EDIT: you beat me to it, so nevermind the above

You might find a set in the for sale section for $70-80, that's about as cheap as they are gonna get. To me even $120 was well worth the insurance...failures on stock seem too common to me. I do my fair share of half-assing but not on engine parts.

STEEPSS

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mark me down for the push rods club. i just did a cam swap on my 45K mile 02 Z, and EVERY single push rod was bent just a little. two were fairly noticeable.

PREDATOR-Z

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00Camary

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I would do ls6 heads at the same time at least if you do the swap. I put down 403 hp and tq with my ls6 swap.

c5formula

iTrader: (55)

i might do those a lil down the road but i dont really have the money for them as all of them iv seen usually go for more than $500.