98SS Blackattack

Will be running stock heads and manifolds with this cam. May get tuning down the road. I have an A4 so i know i will have to drill the TB. Im thinkng the LS6 or the GM hot cam. cost is VERY important but so is power. Anyone know what will work best for me??
Tony

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iTrader: (4)

LS6 cam can be worth ~50rwhp at 6000 over an LS1 cam in a near stock car.

JMX posted a graph show this a few weeks ago.

I think the title of the thread had LS1 and LS6 cam or dyno in it.

GT2-3 might be ok if your willing to run a 918 spring.

boomcase

212/214 trooper cam

mcflyz28

what about a hotcam with the stock heads and manifolds as long as you'll get tuning. I'm biased.

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Boomcase, there is a new Trooper Cam

"Trooper Cam II

Specs: 208/222 .560/.579 115 LSA (no advance or retard built-in)

This custom grind Comp Cam is patterned after the Lingenfelter GT2-3 cam, but with a very slightly longer duration and a tighter LSA (115 vs 118.5)."

as posted by XTrooper himself.

Sounds better to me than the LPE cam

avezz28

I did not gain much with the hotcam until i got long tubes.

niphilli

You should sit down and think about what you want for driving characteristics also. The Hotcam and the LS6 cma are very different, hotcam has a pretty radical idle, LS6 is pretty tame. Not sure where this + 50 RWHP number is coming from, I think through manifolds it will be more in the neighborhood of 20-25 RWHP gain, lil more with LS6 intake.

98SS Blackattack

I dont mind radical at all. My shift extension on my converter is 4700rpms. So i would like to see an increase around there. The ls6 cam comes alive around 4800 to5000 and the hot cam is higher, I think. I dont want the car to shake and shutter that much. Hope this helps. Tony

niphilli

The Hotcam will Lope pretty hard. I think both of those cams will peak around 6100 RPM, but I have not seen a dyno graph of the Hotcam lately, it may even peak a little lower. With an auto tranny through the manifolds I would go with the LS6 cam IMHO. But dont expect 50 RWHP

Checkout this link to a hotcam soundclip in the multimedia exchange section.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/multimedia-exchange/107872-hotcam-macs-w-orp-magnflow-witness-music.html

99 Black Bird T/A

iTrader: (4)

JMX posted a dyno graph and in the top end ie ~5800 to 6000 the LS6 was ~50rwhp over the LS1 cam. I'll find the link to graph. It is pretty amazing.

99 Black Bird T/A

iTrader: (4)

Here's the graph. Key to seeing the ~50rwhp gain is looking at the area under the curve at the end of the graph. Peak to peak it's ~23 or so



See the link for detailed discussion and comments on the ~50rwhp gain over the LS1 cam in the upper rpms.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/105849-ls1-vs-ls6-cam-dyno-graph.html

It's an excellent thread

I think if one winds the LS6 out it really shines for the size cam it is.

99 Black Bird T/A

iTrader: (4)

I would like to see the LS6 results when it's wound out to ~6,500 in a stock engine etc w/good valve springs.

ULTIMATEORANGESS

iTrader: (4)

though i needed tuning i think this cam(ls6) makes great power for its cost.tuning is worth it anyway to get the max out of it.

niphilli

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. That stock dyno looks a little strange though, my car stock internal peaked around 5800 RPM, and not 5300 like that graph suggests. Did JMX post any explination of why that car peaked so low? Great gains none the less.

99 Black Bird T/A

iTrader: (4)

I think JMX stated the car only had a lid and still had the stock catback.

SSCamaro99_3

iTrader: (1)

Just for reference. Here is my dyno sheet with a GM Hotcam.

Mods
TSP Lid
SSRA
ASP Pulley
LS6 Intake
Hotcam
Jet-Hot LT's
True Duals w/X-pipe

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/103774-hotcam-dyno.html

highgear

Every car is different. With the Comp 216/220 114 LSA, I only got 297rwhp. WOT A/F was tuned to 12.8. Could be losing thru the converter. However, it drives good and has good low-mid torque.

98SS Blackattack

Well after reading 1000's of posts and seeing around 100 dynos i have decided on a TR220 on a 114LSA. The main reason- At 5Krpm it seems this cam is almost at peak Hp. Thats with shorties on 4 of the dynos i saw. I have been looking for a cam that is good around 5k for an A4. Most of the LS6 cams power is from 5500 to 6k which is too high for my Converter to take advantage of. Plus the TR220 has a much bigger upside if i get some longtubes down the road or even tuning

ULTIMATEORANGESS

iTrader: (4)

ls6 cam babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

KrazyDan

What are the specs on the hot cam/ls6 cam?