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Old 04-09-2009, 11:23 AM
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I decided to just put a cam in the car so Im buying the cc306 cam today from summit. What hp gains should I see and also can I run stock valve springs with this cam? Some *** in a bolt on 04 cobra keeps talking junk and I saw him get owned by an F250 last week.
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You cant run any cam other then the stock one with stock springs. Read stealths cams sticky, everything you need to know is in there.
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
I decided to just put a cam in the car so Im buying the cc306 cam today from summit. What hp gains should I see and also can I run stock valve springs with this cam? Some *** in a bolt on 04 cobra keeps talking junk and I saw him get owned by an F250 last week.
It is a very large cam for stock heads (Comp CC306 230 / 244 - .544/.576 - 112 LSA), I'd recommend getting something like a CC503 (Comp CC503 224 / 230 - .536/.544 - 112 LSA) instead.

NO, you cannot use your stock valve springs. You NEED to pick up some new springs like some Comp 918's, PAC 1218's, or Patriot springs. And you also NEED some hardened pushrods. 1.6 full roller rockers are optional, but I would strongly recommend them to make the most of your set up.
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With 4.10's and an M6 that cam actually won't be that bad as long as you are willing to spin it over 6,300k rpm, if not go with th 503. And as mentioned above valve springs are a must.
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your also gonna need more than that to beat an 04/04 cobra, unless the driver is a total tard..
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
your also gonna need more than that to beat an 04/04 cobra, unless the driver is a total tard..
Those cars typically dyno 360-380rwhp and run into the 12's. But if you can hook, you might have a chance at taking one in the quarter mile.
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lol... a stock 03/04 cobra will smoke a bolt on+cc306 LT1 car anyday.. But thats just what I've seen from friends who have those cars/setups
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
lol... a stock 03/04 cobra will smoke a bolt on+cc306 LT1 car anyday.. But thats just what I've seen from friends who have those cars/setups
Aren't '03/'04 Cobras a high 12's car stock? You can do that easily with a cam-only, bolt-on LT1 that can hook.
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I think you would be making a big mistake by purchasing a cam today. Someone asking if the stock valve springs will work with an aftermarket cam hasn't done any research and isn't ready to cam a car quite yet. By the looks of your sig you don't even have headers. Slapping the cc306 in there without LT's or the like is basically a big step in the wrong direction. You want to get air in and out of the motor as quickly and efficiently as possible. You want to make sure that is done before you start ripping into the internals. Putting a cam in a car especially one that big without the proper components to let it breath is asking for a poor running cammed LT1.

I suggest you read my sticky at the top of the LT1 forum before you buy anything. Besides the cam you will absolutely need valve springs. You should have NSA rockers w/ guideplates and hardened pushrods for the RPM's that cam will want to see. Also you will need gaskets and valve stem seals. Your looking at close to a grand and you will see similar results if you stuck some LT's on there with a tune.

I don't mean to come off as a jerk or anything I just hate to see you make a mistake, just trying to help.
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I think a Well tuned cammed LT1 wont have a problem keeping up with a "STOCK" Cobra... Ive got a buddy with a bolt on 03' Cobra.. Ill let you guys know how that turns out..
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Originally Posted by Green3spd
I think a Well tuned cammed LT1 wont have a problem keeping up with a "STOCK" Cobra... Ive got a buddy with a bolt on 03' Cobra.. Ill let you guys know how that turns out..
Nice. And I love the quote in your sig,
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
I decided to just put a cam in the car so Im buying the cc306 cam today from summit. What hp gains should I see and also can I run stock valve springs with this cam? Some *** in a bolt on 04 cobra keeps talking junk and I saw him get owned by an F250 last week.
For less $$ & alot less work, get you a basic Nitrous Outlet system/heater & a window switch, drop in the 100 shot pills & go kick his *** .

You can't just drop a cam in & go, there is ALOT more involved, so unless you plan on spending a good 800.00-1000.00 on a cam swap, you need to cancell that order

Either way your going to need sticky tires, thats another chunk of change, i personally wouldn't let this rustang dude get under my skin.
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Sorry man but listen to these guys. I'd get some LTs and exhaust before the cam, then get a 503 unless you have plans for ported heads but then your better off with a custom grind IMO

I'm planning a new topend setup but I really need a 9" and some more suspension. Just don't let **** talkers get to ya, go out and run him now and see where you stand, then keep coming back with more and more LOL

Good luck
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Long tubes to match your exhuast, you already have CAI I see.. 4.10s and 1.6 out of the way! get the headers and a LT4 KM and see how you like it.. trust me, you will enjoy the Headers!
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Originally Posted by stealthformula
i think you would be making a big mistake by purchasing a cam today. Someone asking if the stock valve springs will work with an aftermarket cam hasn't done any research and isn't ready to cam a car quite yet. By the looks of your sig you don't even have headers. Slapping the cc306 in there without lt's or the like is basically a big step in the wrong direction. You want to get air in and out of the motor as quickly and efficiently as possible. You want to make sure that is done before you start ripping into the internals. Putting a cam in a car especially one that big without the proper components to let it breath is asking for a poor running cammed lt1.

I suggest you read my sticky at the top of the lt1 forum before you buy anything. Besides the cam you will absolutely need valve springs. You should have nsa rockers w/ guideplates and hardened pushrods for the rpm's that cam will want to see. Also you will need gaskets and valve stem seals. Your looking at close to a grand and you will see similar results if you stuck some lt's on there with a tune.

I don't mean to come off as a jerk or anything i just hate to see you make a mistake, just trying to help.
i agree
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
lol... a stock 03/04 cobra will smoke a bolt on+cc306 LT1 car anyday.. But thats just what I've seen from friends who have those cars/setups
i highly dont believe that.. i've beat several stock cobras with jus bolt ons either from a stop or 20mph roll...anything higher is when they get to use there power from the supercharger...so a cc306w/bolt ons could take a 03/04 bolt on cobra
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Do yourself a favor and buy some longtubes! Cams are not a cheap upgrade when you figure in all the other parts that go along with it! Just for parts it gets up to $1000 bucks or over depending on what you go with and then you figure are you doing the work or paying someone and a tune. Also as mentioned nitrous is a great upgrade and will put a smile on your face til your wanting more! If you feel you still want a cam there is a cc503 and a couple hotcam kits in the forsale forums that would be good for you dont overlook the small cams they make good power too and are easier on the motor!
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Listen to what the guys are telling you.
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Originally Posted by 305 h.o.
I decided to just put a cam in the car so Im buying the cc306 cam today from summit. What hp gains should I see and also can I run stock valve springs with this cam? Some *** in a bolt on 04 cobra keeps talking junk and I saw him get owned by an F250 last week.
As mentioned, better valve springs is a must. So as new set of lifters, pushrods, timing chain. You will also need better exhaust breathing, so a set long tubes is advisable. Then finally a tune. You will generally see another 30-40 hp to the wheels depending on the tune. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by BOLO
As mentioned, better valve springs is a must. So as new set of lifters, pushrods, timing chain. You will also need better exhaust breathing, so a set long tubes is advisable. Then finally a tune. You will generally see another 30-40 hp to the wheels depending on the tune. Good luck.
New lifters are not required. Same goes for the timing set. Highly recommended since you're in there, but not absolutely necessary.


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