500 mile break in, how important?
04-22-2009, 10:28 PM
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500 mile break in, how important? Just installed a Monster Stage 3 with chromeoly fly wheel. We have a dyno day Saturday and I will probably only be able to get around 100 miles on the clutch before then. Enough of a break in, or am I asking for trouble? I usually break them in for 250 or so, but I don't have the time on this go around.
04-23-2009, 05:59 AM
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The only clutch that the maker specifically state "NO BREAKIN REQUIRED" is Textralia, I cannot speak for Monster but they are a sponsor. I would PM them. I am sure he will see this post and comment. I would say it never hurts to be easy on it. For the clutches that NEED a breakin its ultra important for long term longivity so as long as the operator isnt a clutch slipping Savage.
04-23-2009, 07:11 AM
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Just installed a Monster Stage 3 with chromeoly fly wheel. We have a dyno day Saturday and I will probably only be able to get around 100 miles on the clutch before then. Enough of a break in, or am I asking for trouble? I usually break them in for 250 or so, but I don't have the time on this go around.
04-23-2009, 11:18 AM
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do the 500 mile break in, or you will be in the same place I am, putting in another clutch today when it gets here.
but thanks to Steve being the nice guy he is, we made a deal and he sent me another clutch.
again do what steve says in the break in... it will save you the hassle and the money.
but thanks to Steve being the nice guy he is, we made a deal and he sent me another clutch.
again do what steve says in the break in... it will save you the hassle and the money.
04-23-2009, 09:26 PM
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Thanks for the info guys, I guess I will do the 500 mile break in and miss the dyno session. I guess this is what I get for waiting until the last minute!
On a side note, this clutch with the adjustable slave feels great. I have no chatter at all, and a nice feel to the peddle. Very happy with my choice so far.
On a side note, this clutch with the adjustable slave feels great. I have no chatter at all, and a nice feel to the peddle. Very happy with my choice so far.
04-24-2009, 07:27 AM
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i just put in a ls7 clutch in my 04 gto, and the tech at the dealership said it wouldn't matter for the breakin period. he said when you go and buy a new zo6 505hp vette you are not going to baby it around for a month. you are going to *** rape it everytime you get in it. and those clutches last as long as any other. so the breakin thing he said was a mileage thing not so much as to how long the clutch will last. as in any manual tranny the more you rape the clutch the quicker it will wear out. i did do the 500 mile on mine, and just got through talking with the gm tech about it. it does make since what he said...
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04-24-2009, 11:22 AM
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I never had to break in my CARTEK clutches, I went from the shop, to the track. The break in was the first 4 or 5 6000rpm launches.
Which makes me wonder... if my car is a weekend car, and I went with another manufacturer's clutch, I have to drive it around for 500 miles before I can race it?
What about people who have trailered race cars? Do they have to drive around for 500 miles with a new clutch as well?
Honestly, I'm just wondering because I never had to break in a clutch before, and seeing as how the market is saturated with clutches, CARTEK is not really making their own anymore. So in the future, I can see having to get another brand clutch.
Which makes me wonder... if my car is a weekend car, and I went with another manufacturer's clutch, I have to drive it around for 500 miles before I can race it?
What about people who have trailered race cars? Do they have to drive around for 500 miles with a new clutch as well?
Honestly, I'm just wondering because I never had to break in a clutch before, and seeing as how the market is saturated with clutches, CARTEK is not really making their own anymore. So in the future, I can see having to get another brand clutch.
04-24-2009, 12:03 PM
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I never had to break in my CARTEK clutches, I went from the shop, to the track. The break in was the first 4 or 5 6000rpm launches.
Which makes me wonder... if my car is a weekend car, and I went with another manufacturer's clutch, I have to drive it around for 500 miles before I can race it?
What about people who have trailered race cars? Do they have to drive around for 500 miles with a new clutch as well?
Honestly, I'm just wondering because I never had to break in a clutch before, and seeing as how the market is saturated with clutches, CARTEK is not really making their own anymore. So in the future, I can see having to get another brand clutch.
Which makes me wonder... if my car is a weekend car, and I went with another manufacturer's clutch, I have to drive it around for 500 miles before I can race it?
What about people who have trailered race cars? Do they have to drive around for 500 miles with a new clutch as well?
Honestly, I'm just wondering because I never had to break in a clutch before, and seeing as how the market is saturated with clutches, CARTEK is not really making their own anymore. So in the future, I can see having to get another brand clutch.
We recommend a break in to make the driving experience pleasant and to allow the friction material to be perfectly seated. Some friction material does not require a break in, however, we still recommend it.
Keep in mind that some friction materials require a heat cycle process to "temper" the material. For instance, sintered iron has an average coefficient of friction of .41 when broken in, however, if you test it off the shelf without break in then it's in the high .2's to low .3's...
There is a reason behind the break in for us, I'm not just going to make it up for guys. Hell, I'd love nothing more than to have a customer put my clutch in and immediately take it to the track, it's just not realistic in every case.
04-24-2009, 01:21 PM
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The guys out at Cartek did stop offering their clutches, I spoke with them the other day as they are installing a Monster in a C6.
We recommend a break in to make the driving experience pleasant and to allow the friction material to be perfectly seated. Some friction material does not require a break in, however, we still recommend it.
Keep in mind that some friction materials require a heat cycle process to "temper" the material. For instance, sintered iron has an average coefficient of friction of .41 when broken in, however, if you test it off the shelf without break in then it's in the high .2's to low .3's...
There is a reason behind the break in for us, I'm not just going to make it up for guys. Hell, I'd love nothing more than to have a customer put my clutch in and immediately take it to the track, it's just not realistic in every case.
We recommend a break in to make the driving experience pleasant and to allow the friction material to be perfectly seated. Some friction material does not require a break in, however, we still recommend it.
Keep in mind that some friction materials require a heat cycle process to "temper" the material. For instance, sintered iron has an average coefficient of friction of .41 when broken in, however, if you test it off the shelf without break in then it's in the high .2's to low .3's...
There is a reason behind the break in for us, I'm not just going to make it up for guys. Hell, I'd love nothing more than to have a customer put my clutch in and immediately take it to the track, it's just not realistic in every case.
I understand the need for a break in fully. If I would ever need it, I can drive my car to work every day and back, but that would only be about 200 miles per week. If I was the example, it would take two weeks to "break in" the clutch. That would suck! lol I guess I can take round trips to the shore for no reason.
But lets say, someone have an all out race car, that is not registered or insured, how will they break in the clutch?
04-25-2009, 10:19 AM
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I saw the wood crate and green pressure plate on the work bench the other day
I understand the need for a break in fully. If I would ever need it, I can drive my car to work every day and back, but that would only be about 200 miles per week. If I was the example, it would take two weeks to "break in" the clutch. That would suck! lol I guess I can take round trips to the shore for no reason.
But lets say, someone have an all out race car, that is not registered or insured, how will they break in the clutch?
I understand the need for a break in fully. If I would ever need it, I can drive my car to work every day and back, but that would only be about 200 miles per week. If I was the example, it would take two weeks to "break in" the clutch. That would suck! lol I guess I can take round trips to the shore for no reason.
But lets say, someone have an all out race car, that is not registered or insured, how will they break in the clutch?
If it's an all out race car we send a clutch that doesn't require a break in.
