94Aquaformula

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Hello guys,
Does anybody know the difference between both these companies’ cams that are "sleeper cams?" I have heard both great feedback on each others cam. Wanted to know from people who have them in there car, and how much power it gave you. These are very good companies so I'am not starting a fight. Just want to hear some good info. Try to make my decision on which one to go with. Thanks Calvin



P.S. anybody have any video clips with these cams and dyno sheets?

ss.slp.ls1

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You already have headers, exhaust, and ram air...why do you want a sleeper cam I'd think bigger.

94Aquaformula

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i just dont want to change the stall,gears and heads. just want to throw it in. stall is 2000 gears are 3.23 and heads are stock.

ss.slp.ls1

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There are many cams you can run effectively on stock heads, I am running the CC503 w/ stock heads for example. You will want to change your stall though, 2000 is very small, even for a bolt-on car. Get a 3200+ stall and get a decent sized cam. Then save up for gears.

94Aquaformula

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i almost bought that cam but its way out of my budget for doing it right. such as stall, tranny cooler, gears,shift kit, valve train parts and so on.

ss.slp.ls1

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What's your budget?
You'd have to upgrade your valve train with any cam you choose...

A larger stall and 3.73 gears alone will make your car a different car, without going into the internals.

94Aquaformula

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I just spent alittle over 4000 to have the motor rebuilt and tranny and pay to have it installed.

94Aquaformula

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i have lt4 springs and cc 1.6rr brand new with cm pushrods.

ss.slp.ls1

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So what's your budget now? You should install yourself, saves a bunch.

ss.slp.ls1

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Well LT4 springs are only good enough for 1.6 rr's and the stock cam. Anything larger and you need better springs.

94Aquaformula

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yeah i know. i have taken out a couple lt1s and put them back in my friends car. It gets old and dont have the space anymore. i have seen people using stock springs and such with the sleeper cams.

StealthFormula

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Stock springs cannot be used with anything other than the stock cam. They are not strong enough and will go into coil bind. You could have serious issues result from that. The LT4 springs you have will more than likely have to be replaced to run either of those camshafts but your best bet would be to talk to Lloyd or Larry because they would be able to tell you for sure since I am unaware of there lobe designs etc. Keep in mind the LT4's probaly can't even handle the lift of either with 1.6RR's so you would have to downsize to 1.5's which would kind of contradict everything.

My vote is to up the stall and gears in time because you will see more noticible gains by doing that than putting in a small cam with the setup you currently have.

kinglt-1

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+1 well put.

94Aquaformula

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Don't know if you guys have seen this thread very very old. Check it out and tell me what you think. Look at his mods. https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...o-results.html

94Aquaformula

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As far as I can see stock valve train is used. I called Larry just waiting on him to return my message.

kinglt-1

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notice that was installed with comp springs NOT stock or lt4! Which is what everyones point is here. Thats why guys are saying to go with a bigger cam. you are going to have to upgrade the SPRINGS anyways lol.

ss.slp.ls1

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From thread you linked...

"...I also installed Comp 1.6 rockers and comp springs/retainers."

Trust me, you can't run stock valve train...

94Aquaformula

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kinglt-1 I didn't see that they used cc springs. Thanks for pointing that out. I can buy better ones to put on the sleeper cam if needed, just waiting for larry.

94Aquaformula

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The springs i bought are from bullet racing cams. The sticker on the side of the box says this.......

Bullet Racing cams
vs 958
1.250 O.D. w dampner
115# @ 1.700
305 @ 1.200 bind 1.125

mean anything to you guys, I got them from a great performance shop here in town and are known around. Patterson Racing Inc. The have a bad *** lt1

94Aquaformula

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There is another coil, "I guess you could call it" inside of the spring.