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Old 10-31-2003, 12:46 PM
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Unhappy T-Top Cage rule will be in effect 1 Jan 04

For cars with t-tops running 10.99 and faster, will require full cage:

http://www.nhraonline.com/2003/news/october/102302.html

Glad I have a hard top! But I will likely get a chassis cert anyway very soon.
Old 10-31-2003, 12:59 PM
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Talked to madman yesterday about this.

Looks like a full 10 point cage is going in the Hot Rod right after the Thunder Shootout.

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glad I'm moving 20 miles away from an IHRA track

Guess I'll be making 1/8 mile passes at HRP after the first of the year.
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Xaon....they have rules for 1/8 as well

so it doesn't matter
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it sucks, but a 10.99 car is a fast car and should require cages. 10 point is a bit extreme to me, but hey, it costs to play that fast.
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Bastards, how much do 10pts weigh compared to an 8
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i wouldnt be concerned about the weight but 10 points require a LOT of the interior to be taken out to weld the cage in.
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
i wouldnt be concerned about the weight but 10 points require a LOT of the interior to be taken out to weld the cage in.
THE rules say roll cage ,a roll cage gets welded in pretty much in same place as a regular roll bar the difference being if the customer wants the upright bars to the halo through the dash or not,obviusly through the dash is the right way plus gets the uprights to have less bends in it which is what the NHRA guys like to see when they cert a car. but all else is same car will still retain all of its interior ,weight wise mild steel about 35/lbs ,cm about 20/5lbs bob

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is this for real? i thought this had been put to rest a while ago as just a rumor
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Originally Posted by BigPlanTransAm
is this for real? i thought this had been put to rest a while ago as just a rumor
yep its for real go to the linkon reckless,s post and you,ll see its offically a rule ,after talking to nhra in div 1 there will be more rules and certs coming in the next few years ,even for roll bars
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I LOVE the track I race at. As long as you aren't going way in the 9's they are very lenient(sp?).
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guess I'm done modding....no jungle gym for me (especially since I redid my rollbar this past year)
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This really sucks. I'm glad I run at mostly IHRA tracks. I hope they don't follow suit. Does wolfe make an update to convert their 6pts to 10?
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ok guys page 24 of the 03 rule book states any car running 10.99 and 135mph needs a cage.period,any car running 10.00-10.99 under 135 mph can use a roll bar,except a convertable which has to have a cage if it runs 10.99 or faster et and or if it runs over 135 mph [on converts its an either one ]it has to have a cage ,i just got of the phone with our div 1 guy and he also says cars with lift off tops. that have no mid bar [ie t top bar] like you corvette guys/supras are concidered convertables as winshield has no support to rear structure,Ron will call me mon after speaking to bob lange to clarify the ruling on the NHRA site.so this will have to wait another 72 hrs to be straightend out so those of you leaving Ron messages he is going to call me mon thnx bob 631-435-1895

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This is complete . Nough said.
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Originally Posted by BigPlanTransAm
is this for real? i thought this had been put to rest a while ago as just a rumor
ok guys page 24 of the 03 rule book states any car running 10.99 and 135mph needs a cage.period,any car running 10.00-10.99 under 135 mph can use a roll bar,except a convertable which has to have a cage if it runs 10.99 or faster et and or if it runs over 135 mph [on converts it an either one ]it has to have a cage ,i just got of the phone with our div 1 guy and he also says cars with lift off tops. that have no mid bar [ie t top bar] like you corvette guys/supras are concidered convertables as winshield has no support to rear structure,Ron will call me mon after speaking to bob lange to clarify the ruling on the NHRA site.so this will have to wait another 72 hrs to be straightend out so those of you leaving Ron messages he is going to call me mon thnx bob 631-435-1895
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At least they didnt change it for 11.00-11.99 as was rumored.

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In Super Pro, Pro, and Sportsman, T-top design vehicles will be required to have a roll bar if the car runs between 11.00 and 11.99; and a roll cage if the vehicle runs 10.99 or quicker.
This states 10.99 or quicker it says nothing about 135mph trap speed.
This really sucks for the daily driver/ Racer crowd like myself

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Originally Posted by koolrayz
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In Super Pro, Pro, and Sportsman, T-top design vehicles will be required to have a roll bar if the car runs between 11.00 and 11.99; and a roll cage if the vehicle runs 10.99 or quicker.
66ImpalaLT1-- maybe you better reread the link Reckless posted
This states 10.99 or quicker it says nothing about 135mph trap speed.
This really sucks for the daily driver/ Racer crowd like myself
maybe u need to read what i wrote ,a few guys are saying that nhra said to them that the new rule was a mistake ,i told what the old rule is and that Ron who does the certs here in div 1 is going to call me on monday after clarifying whether or not that rule is truly in effect or will wind up in 04 rule book.than the present 10.99/135 rule will stay page 24 03 rule book . read my post again thnx bob either way we should know whats what when Ron calls me on mon after he and Bob lange discuss this,if the new rule takes effect than a t top car will be treated as a convert which is either10.99 or 135mph,or they do like it says on the nhra post 10.99 they are not sure and there in lies the problem ,we have here so mon we should know, thnx bob

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Man I'm glad my car is slow and I race at an IHRA track.



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