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StreetStalkerZ
05-07-2009, 08:18 PM
Will this hood butt up against the glass or run close to the glass? I plan to drive the car alot until i get another daily driver and i don't want to flex or crack the cowl during daily driving if it is too close to the glass,can you trim to fit?

I'm thinking of getting this hood so my nitrous plate will clear with my Victor JR/Edelbrock 4150 TB setup. Right now i had to trim some of the cowl out of the sunoco hood under the black air screen in the back of the cowl. If i put the 4150 plate on it will raise up into the screen and i don't want to cut anymore out,so im thinking of the outlaw hood for more clearance.

http://i44.tinypic.com/55j700.jpg


TS6
05-07-2009, 09:14 PM
Swap to a sheet metal elbow and put the throttle body back up front and you won't need a new hood.

StreetStalkerZ
05-07-2009, 09:22 PM
Swap to a sheet metal elbow and put the throttle body back up front and you won't need a new hood.Why would i want to go backwards,power wise? I already had that setup and switched to the 4 barrel setup for better air distrubution and power. I have enough clearance now but not enough to run a nitrous plate setup.


studderin
05-07-2009, 10:53 PM
Well, you have to take the wipers off for the exstanded hood. So its really not for a daily driver, or going to ass anything for a street car.
You have the bolt on, The normal sunoco pin on. dosnt have the under skin that your pin on dose. I have the normal sunoco pin on and its just the outer skin.

were is the hat hitting for you now??

StreetStalkerZ
05-08-2009, 07:55 AM
Well, you have to take the wipers off for the exstanded hood. So its really not for a daily driver, or going to ass anything for a street car.
You have the bolt on, The normal sunoco pin on. dosnt have the under skin that your pin on dose. I have the normal sunoco pin on and its just the outer skin.

were is the hat hitting for you now??Yeah i understand the wiper will have to be deleted,just have too keep plenty of rainX on the glass hahaha! The bottom picture shows with the hood closed,you can't see it but the wingnut for the hat is almost touching what figerglass that is left under the blow screen on the hood. Their might be maybe a half inch of the fiberglass left under the screen so if i put the 1 inch plate kit on i will have to remove enough material that will cause me to have to remove the screen aswell. What i have cut out can be replaced with fiberglass if i sell it to get a bigger hood but im afraid if i go anymore their is the point of no return. I'm curious about the wide sunoco hood also but im planning to do a pin on and the outlaw looks more appealing other than having to delete the wipers.

http://i41.tinypic.com/14btgcg.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/16gaptk.jpg

yrlosing
05-09-2009, 09:11 PM
so your looking for a bolt on outlaw hood?

i have the outlaw with the extended and it is right against the window. it has plenty of clearance for your application. but you will have to remove wipers.

heres some pics!

StreetStalkerZ
05-09-2009, 10:02 PM
I'll probably have to switch to the "wide" sunoco because i don't think the extended version will take daily driving well.

studderin
05-09-2009, 10:13 PM
Or maybe just the pin on sunoco, like you have now? The "wide" is what the outlaw/extended hood profile but short. I think it looks a little much on most street cars. I just put a normal sunco like yours on my car, but the light 14# pin on (bolt on is 26#) it has no under brace. Just the top skin, so its a little loose depending on how you mount it. You can have the cowl up or down probally 1 inch then normal, without it cracking if you mount it supporting it like that. So you can gain 1inch thay would you have now. Keeps the wipers too, I was driving today in the rain a bit. If you need a size can try to get how much room it has were a carbhat would be.
there some pics of it here, when I was working on it
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/drag-racing-tech/1068545-cam-only-winter-upgrades-bitch-diet.html

Or use the hood you have now. Can you not use the wing nut, and contersink the hat and just a flush toped long contersink bolt?

ElkyRacer
05-10-2009, 01:24 PM
The extended pin on hood has been what Ive wanted for a while, but doesnt work for a street car, I like my wipers. Why not take the pin on extended, and have a good body guy trim the cowl area just enough to let the wipers clear? Shouldnt be TOO bad right?

StreetStalkerZ
05-10-2009, 04:10 PM
The extended pin on hood has been what Ive wanted for a while, but doesnt work for a street car, I like my wipers. Why not take the pin on extended, and have a good body guy trim the cowl area just enough to let the wipers clear? Shouldnt be TOO bad right?
I thought of that also kyle but if i did that i might as well do the "wide" pin on sunoco,little taller and the cowl had enough room for the wiper to operate correctly.

I sure love the way the extended hood looks on these cars :nod:

ElkyRacer
05-10-2009, 09:36 PM
I sure love the way the extended hood looks on these cars :nod:

Amen to that! Thats about the ONLY cowl hood that looks right on these cars! I just hate that its a pin on only. Wish I could find a more tasteful way of mounting a pin on. If it werent for that Id have one on the way!

yrlosing
05-10-2009, 09:42 PM
was thinking about the extended "wide" cowl at first, but still wanted to see a little over the hood!

the wide hood also goes all the way to the glass, from what i was told? unless i was told wrong? thus no wipers with it either.


the hood barely touches the window, you could just take off a 1/2 inch off the end and should be no problem for street use!

Camaro396
05-10-2009, 09:55 PM
was thinking about the extended "wide" cowl at first, but still wanted to see a little over the hood!

the wide hood also goes all the way to the glass, from what i was told? unless i was told wrong? thus no wipers with it either.


the hood barely touches the window, you could just take off a 1/2 inch off the end and should be no problem for street use!

I can see fine with my Extended Sunoco. It does go all the way to the glass, but can always be trimmed however you want it to be. I have a 4500 style TB on my car, and if I would have went with the normal "wide" Sunoco hood, that doesn't extend all the way back, I'd be leaving half of the TB sticking outside the cowl. The extended version covers it all up, and like I said, I see fine.

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/27/l_6cc0fd95fe044bab993c0c669dc60164.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/90/l_8040c34414c0453e9a5047b869cc3e10.jpg

studderin
05-11-2009, 05:46 PM
if I would have went with the normal "wide" Sunoco hood, that doesn't extend all the way back, I'd be leaving half of the TB sticking outside the cowl. /90/l_8040c34414c0453e9a5047b869cc3e10.jpg[/IMG]
Im not sure about that, mine the cowl still gose back over the wiper pivot, and the base of the arm. I think a carb style TB would still tuck under the cowl fine, as in the 1st post.

StreetStalkerZ
05-11-2009, 07:43 PM
Im not sure about that, mine the cowl still gose back over the wiper pivot, and the base of the arm. I think a carb style TB would still tuck under the cowl fine, as in the 1st post.

Do you have a picture to see? I would like to see a side shot to see how far it comes to the wiper arm.

yrlosing
05-11-2009, 10:02 PM
that's the same hood i have.

i thought the "mike moran" style hood (the cowl goes from almost fender to fender) goes all the way to the glass also? maybe i saw a different pic?

studderin
05-11-2009, 10:08 PM
Do you have a picture to see? I would like to see a side shot to see how far it comes to the wiper arm.

It should be the same hood you have now, but just the outer skin. No under brace in the rear, or the screen. I only have the pics right now in the link I posted, but can get more later.