Got my upgrade A4 upgrade parts
11-04-2003, 06:50 AM
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Got my upgrade A4 upgrade parts I Got my upgrade A4 upgrade parts
Here are some pics of what I have now
Any other suggestions on other upgrades?
1. 4L60E high performance overdrive billet servo. New on the market, this Maximum Overdrive Servo has 50% more holding power than the stock overdrive servo
2. 4L60E high performance intermediate billet servo. This servo has 35% more holding power (fluid apply area) than the Corvette servo found on other brands. It'll give a firmer 1-2 and 2-3 shift. It also fits 4L60E transmissions
3. 4L60E Raybestos Pro Series Band. This is a high performance band made with High Energy Black Kevlar material.
4. 4L60E 6 count 3-4 clutch set. 4L60E High Performance and Longer Clutch Life. The Blue Plate Specials are the very best in the state of the art. Some racing transmission specialists have successfully eliminated one or more clutches from a clutch pack, and have still exceeded the torque capacity of the original clutch pack. Reducing the plate count reduces parasitic drag and shortens spin-up time.
5. 4L60E Extreme Duty front planet with 5 pinion gears
6. 4L60E Extreme Duty Torque Drive Package. You get a hardened input shaft and drum assembly plus a hardened reaction shell and bearing.
7. 4L60E performance 1-2 accumulator spring. Typically the OEM 1-2 accumulator spring is too weak for high performance rebuilds. This enhanced performance spring provides a firmer 1-2 shift.
Anyway hopefully all these parts will make me a bulletproof tranny. There are a few other things I just cannot remeber what they are off the top of my head. Wish me luck !!
Jeremy
Here are some pics of what I have now
Any other suggestions on other upgrades?
1. 4L60E high performance overdrive billet servo. New on the market, this Maximum Overdrive Servo has 50% more holding power than the stock overdrive servo
2. 4L60E high performance intermediate billet servo. This servo has 35% more holding power (fluid apply area) than the Corvette servo found on other brands. It'll give a firmer 1-2 and 2-3 shift. It also fits 4L60E transmissions
3. 4L60E Raybestos Pro Series Band. This is a high performance band made with High Energy Black Kevlar material.
4. 4L60E 6 count 3-4 clutch set. 4L60E High Performance and Longer Clutch Life. The Blue Plate Specials are the very best in the state of the art. Some racing transmission specialists have successfully eliminated one or more clutches from a clutch pack, and have still exceeded the torque capacity of the original clutch pack. Reducing the plate count reduces parasitic drag and shortens spin-up time.
5. 4L60E Extreme Duty front planet with 5 pinion gears
6. 4L60E Extreme Duty Torque Drive Package. You get a hardened input shaft and drum assembly plus a hardened reaction shell and bearing.
7. 4L60E performance 1-2 accumulator spring. Typically the OEM 1-2 accumulator spring is too weak for high performance rebuilds. This enhanced performance spring provides a firmer 1-2 shift.
Anyway hopefully all these parts will make me a bulletproof tranny. There are a few other things I just cannot remeber what they are off the top of my head. Wish me luck !!
Jeremy
11-04-2003, 10:36 AM
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good luck man. if you dont mind me asking, where did you ge all that stuff and how much did it all come to? i'm looking to do basically the same thing to my tranny b4 i install a cam and nitrous.
11-04-2003, 12:05 PM
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did about the same set up on my 4l60e, i got all my stuff from a place called kds performance. i built the trans with some help from my dad.
i have 3k on mine and it's holding; it also has about about 10 runs at the track on it to, but i dont have NOS ether.
i have 3k on mine and it's holding; it also has about about 10 runs at the track on it to, but i dont have NOS ether.
Good luck on the rebuild !
11-04-2003, 02:49 PM
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Thank guys
Ran into my first problem already . Where the input shaft and input drum mate together there is a big leak when air tested. But I called the company and they are shipping another one right out. Hopefully this will be the only time setback. Too bad they are so far and Ill be waiting on the new part a minimum of 4 days. Ill definitly keep updating the progress.
Jeremy
Ran into my first problem already . Where the input shaft and input drum mate together there is a big leak when air tested. But I called the company and they are shipping another one right out. Hopefully this will be the only time setback. Too bad they are so far and Ill be waiting on the new part a minimum of 4 days. Ill definitly keep updating the progress.
Jeremy
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Originally Posted by offaxis
Thank guys
Ran into my first problem already . Where the input shaft and input drum mate together there is a big leak when air tested. But I called the company and they are shipping another one right out. Hopefully this will be the only time setback. Too bad they are so far and Ill be waiting on the new part a minimum of 4 days. Ill definitly keep updating the progress.
Jeremy
Ran into my first problem already . Where the input shaft and input drum mate together there is a big leak when air tested. But I called the company and they are shipping another one right out. Hopefully this will be the only time setback. Too bad they are so far and Ill be waiting on the new part a minimum of 4 days. Ill definitly keep updating the progress.
Jeremy
Good catch. It's worth doing all the steps to check everything out. Well worth the wait to do it right. Lots of people on this board buying aftermarket "racing" stuff and expecting it to be correctly put together without checking it out for themselves. That's why there are so many expensive failures. Good luck.
BTW, let us know how you like the kevlar band. They can be harsh for the street. What converter are you using?
11-04-2003, 03:04 PM
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If you did not get a 29 element input sprag get one!
That’s high wear part
Also make sure everything is clean... making sure you have the right inch lb’s specs on every bolt. Some read in inch other in foot pounds. You will break something if you tighten down to 90ftlb and it really read 90 inch pounds. I took my time and reread everything and mine came out great. Once you’re done it does not seem so imposable to rebuild one of the most complicated transmissions ever built. The gm techs found is very funny that I was a tempting to rebuild a 4l60e on my own, I had almost no knowledge of the inter workings of an automatic transmission. The only thing I missed up on was a spring for the TC lockup. Put the wrong one in. so that brings me to my next point keep very organized!
You will need a rebuild manual! You will not able to complete with out it
That’s high wear part
Also make sure everything is clean... making sure you have the right inch lb’s specs on every bolt. Some read in inch other in foot pounds. You will break something if you tighten down to 90ftlb and it really read 90 inch pounds. I took my time and reread everything and mine came out great. Once you’re done it does not seem so imposable to rebuild one of the most complicated transmissions ever built. The gm techs found is very funny that I was a tempting to rebuild a 4l60e on my own, I had almost no knowledge of the inter workings of an automatic transmission. The only thing I missed up on was a spring for the TC lockup. Put the wrong one in. so that brings me to my next point keep very organized!
You will need a rebuild manual! You will not able to complete with out it
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11-06-2003, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by offaxis
dissonance :
Yep I got that also
I have the 29 element Borg Warner forward input sprag
Thanks for mentioning it though
Yep I got that also
I have the 29 element Borg Warner forward input sprag
Thanks for mentioning it though
The ultimate competition/racing package with billet servos and 29 element sprag
Provides very firm shifts and excellent holding power for high torque applications.
Blue Plate High Performance Rebuild Kit
Alto Red Eagle kevlar lined "Power Band"
Billet Super Servo
Billet Overdrive Super Servo
29 Element Heavy Duty Sprag
.500" Boost Valve
13 vane oil pump rotor conversion kit
"The Beast" Heavy Duty Sun Gear Shell - 700R4/4L60E
$550 bucks...
I wonder what a local tranny builder would charge for labor if i brought the parts and transmission...
11-06-2003, 02:10 PM
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Those are some good parts there. Alot of the stuff I have is in that list. I think the guy you haver putting it together is as important to the tranny as the actual parts that go into it. Ive had a bad builder do a few trannys for me. IT was a friggen mess.
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11-06-2003, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by offaxis
Those are some good parts there. Alot of the stuff I have is in that list. I think the guy you haver putting it together is as important to the tranny as the actual parts that go into it. Ive had a bad builder do a few trannys for me. IT was a friggen mess.
Jeremy
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thanks man...
it looks like something similar to your list is another package they offer...
Complete Upgrade Package
Almost $1400 bones...
hmmm...
11-06-2003, 02:26 PM
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I like the Alto clutches a little better than the Blues (which are also really good.) The Altos hold up a little better under street usage (the Blues are said to glaze over under street type driving conditions) and there's 9 Alto clutches on the 3-4 instead of 6.
11-06-2003, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Colonel
I like the Alto clutches a little better than the Blues (which are also really good.) The Altos hold up a little better under street usage (the Blues are said to glaze over under street type driving conditions) and there's 9 Alto clutches on the 3-4 instead of 6.
im gonna be running a stage 2 heads/cam on this with a converter...i planned on spraying a 150 shot in the future...
i suppose my best bet would be that $1400 dollar package...
i wonder how long i could get away with just the 550 dollar crap...
11-06-2003, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mikemodano9c
what do you think of those prices?
im gonna be running a stage 2 heads/cam on this with a converter...i planned on spraying a 150 shot in the future...
i suppose my best bet would be that $1400 dollar package...
i wonder how long i could get away with just the 550 dollar crap...
im gonna be running a stage 2 heads/cam on this with a converter...i planned on spraying a 150 shot in the future...
i suppose my best bet would be that $1400 dollar package...
i wonder how long i could get away with just the 550 dollar crap...
now the setup your talking is going tobe hard for a built 4l60e to hold... might want to think about an t56?
11-06-2003, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dissonance
crap? i would not say that, stock trans have lasted 150+ runs. it does matter what parts you put in but if it's not done right you can forget about it lasting.
now the setup your talking is going tobe hard for a built 4l60e to hold... might want to think about an t56?
now the setup your talking is going tobe hard for a built 4l60e to hold... might want to think about an t56?
i have considered a swap, but that is gonna be big money and take lots of time...
im still weighing my options...
11-06-2003, 03:19 PM
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Funny thing is i think stock trannys rock!!
I think both kits look pretty good. I have also run the alto reds in the past and never had a problem with those. Most of my problems have been from **** poor assembly and the last tranny blew doing my burnout after the rear blew and locked up. I ripped the inside apart!! . So I had to start fresh
Some pics of that last blow up
I still can't get the three clutches and four steels apart!!! Aren't there supposed to be splines on the I.D. of the clutches
I think both kits look pretty good. I have also run the alto reds in the past and never had a problem with those. Most of my problems have been from **** poor assembly and the last tranny blew doing my burnout after the rear blew and locked up. I ripped the inside apart!! . So I had to start fresh
Some pics of that last blow up
I still can't get the three clutches and four steels apart!!! Aren't there supposed to be splines on the I.D. of the clutches
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11-06-2003, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by offaxis
Funny thing is i think stock trannys rock!!
I think both kits look pretty good. I have also run the alto reds in the past and never had a problem with those. Most of my problems have been from **** poor assembly and the last tranny blew doing my burnout after the rear blew and locked up. I ripped the inside apart!! . So I had to start fresh
Some pics of that last blow up
I still can't get the three clutches and four steels apart!!! Aren't there supposed to be splines on the I.D. of the clutches
I think both kits look pretty good. I have also run the alto reds in the past and never had a problem with those. Most of my problems have been from **** poor assembly and the last tranny blew doing my burnout after the rear blew and locked up. I ripped the inside apart!! . So I had to start fresh
Some pics of that last blow up
I still can't get the three clutches and four steels apart!!! Aren't there supposed to be splines on the I.D. of the clutches