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Textralia triple disc help - why is the slave different?

Old 05-29-2009, 04:55 PM
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Default Textralia triple disc help - why is the slave different?

i picked up this Tex triple, slightly used, and it came with a "special" slave cylinder. why it is necessary, i can't determine. i was wondering if anyone on here could shed some light on the necessity of the new slave.

Pictured below are the two i have, the stock GM one is on the left, and the new (used) Tex-specific slave is on the right. Both are GM slaves, both have the same part number cast onto them, both are the same height (far as i can tell), both have the same or roughly the same bearings, fittings, and all dimensions for that matter EXCEPT: the new slave's TO bearing comes off...just comes off, no retainers or fasteners of any kind, just pick it up and it comes off...and the new Tex-specific slave's shaft (?) is either smaller or just appears to be since it doesn't have that 'skirt' below the bearing...why would i need to use this slave vs. the stock, unmodified one?







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Old 05-29-2009, 04:57 PM
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in the 2nd to last pic, it looks like the Textralia slave is taller...i'm not sure if that's actually the case or an optical illusion...but if anyone could explain my situation, i'd be GREATLY appreciative.
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The slaves are identical, the throwout bearings however look different. Looks like a stock TO with the lower piece missing. If in doubt you can purchase just the bearing.
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i might get a new TO bearing just to see the difference, if any. obviously there's a visual difference, color-wise, in the pictures, but they seem to be indentical dimensionally. i never heard of the twin-disc exoskel needing a special slave, but the triple is not a very common clutch so information on it doesn't seem to be as readily available....i was kinda hoping someone who owned one or a vendor that sells them could chime in on this...
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Your old slave looks just like my old stock from the factory slave that didn't have a removable TO bearing either. Your new slave looks just like the new slave I picked up from Autozone that has a removable TO bearing. I can't imagine ever needing more than my dual disk tex. What's that one rated to?
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i was told the revised dual disc was good for 900-1000 TQ...so the triple i have, assuming it's the old style, is probably good for 1000 TQ, + or - 100-200tq....i really dont know, but don't care since i won't be making over 750 or 800.

As for the slave...i may take both mine to AutoZone or O'Reilly's and see if they have one of their replacements in stock and compare the three...not sure why i didn't think of that....
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Let us know what you find out!
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well i just went to O'Reilly's and Autozone.

O'Reilly's had one in stock and it looked IDENTICAL to my stock GM slave, down to the part number cast on the bottom.

Autozone did NOT have one in stock, BUT the picture on their computer showed one without a throwout bearing installed. They also did NOT have the TO bearing in stock, nor did any of the other area stores, and the computer did NOT have a picture of the bearing...but this makes me curious...
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Do you guys not see that the black collar on the stock one is nearly twice as long as the "Special" Textralia one? Perhaps the shorter collar is needed to compensate for the taller clutch/pressure plate stack.
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yeah i see that, it's the only real obvious difference and the reason for my question. i'm wondering what i need to do if it fails on me....i.e., can i "rig" a new one out of my old slave? can a special TO bearing be purchased at a common parts store to fit on there? or do i have to somehow order one directly from textralia?
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Did the slave come with your set-up? If so maybe they just modified it to work
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I would get a new slave(if you don't have one already) and swap that black collar. That's the only thing that's different between the two.
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i'm guessing that's what i'll have to do...modify that plastic collar in some way. i don't need to yet, as far as i know, but that's the reason i started this thread, just in case i have to.
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Originally Posted by 2000_SS
i'm guessing that's what i'll have to do...modify that plastic collar in some way. i don't need to yet, as far as i know, but that's the reason i started this thread, just in case i have to.
Why would you have to modify it? You can't just take it off and put it on a new slave?
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Originally Posted by Grifter
Why would you have to modify it? You can't just take it off and put it on a new slave?
i MIGHT be able to, i don't really know. i've never screwed around with one of these things before. the old GM slave out of my car doesn't just come apart and i didn't want to go prying and pulling on it to see.

The autozone slave doesn't come with a new bearing, which makes me think it's setup like the Tex slave. if i have to buy a new slave, i might be able to get one from autozone, then buy the bearing seperate like they sell them, and fit the plastic sleeve onto the new parts...i guess...
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Why exactly CAN'T you use the Tex specific slave? Why do you need to buy a new one?
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Why don't you just call up textralia and ask them, or ask a vendor that sells them so you do it right the first time and don't have to pull the transmission again when it doesn't work correctly.
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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
Why exactly CAN'T you use the Tex specific slave? Why do you need to buy a new one?
i'm not saying i can't...i'm saying "what do i do IF..."

Originally Posted by Jon5212
Why don't you just call up textralia and ask them, or ask a vendor that sells them so you do it right the first time and don't have to pull the transmission again when it doesn't work correctly.

i've emailed 3 vendors and got no reply. phone calls work better, but i'm not in a hurry...and honestly, after everything i've done/am doing to my car, pulling the tranny is like a 15 minute walk in the park.
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Which one did you use?
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I used the one that came with the clutch. 30 miles on it and no problems so far. I never could figure out where to get a new one if need be....I'll cross that bridge when I get there I guess.

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