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Old 06-04-2009, 02:24 PM
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Default Edlebrock Cam w/No Tuning? 430HP?

I apologize if this is repeat of any previous threads. I found nothing when I did my searchs.

Anyways...has anyone installed Edlebrock's Camshaft PN 2218? Here is a link to the part in question: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...lvetrain.shtml

I'm curious if its claims are true. 433HP. 421 Ft/Lbs. No tuning required.

Also with a LSA of 118*, would PTV clearance need to be checked during installation?
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Flywheel horsepower, not rear wheel horsepower.
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Originally Posted by moeZ28
Flywheel horsepower, not rear wheel horsepower.
Yeah. That goes without saying. But even if you loose 30hp through the drivetrain you're still looking at close to 400hp.
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you can count on 15% m6 and more for us a4 guys. Stall will suck up even more.......
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It's just a great idea to get any cam tuned. If I were going to just buy a package, it would be a Trick Flow package.
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Originally Posted by Mumbles
............. But even if you loose 30hp through the drivetrain you're still looking at close to 400hp.
30hp... I wish! 430hp on an M6 would be around 370rwhp.

I don't doubt their claims, dependent on car base tune and parts fitted as usual.
But always more benefit with a good tune.

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Originally Posted by Sid447
30hp... I wish! 430hp on an M6 would be around 370rwhp.
Wow! That, I didn't know. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by rob69zombie
It's just a great idea to get any cam tuned. If I were going to just buy a package, it would be a Trick Flow package.
Do you have a link to this Trick Flow Package? I'd kinda like to take a look at it.

I found the Trick Flow Packages.

http://www.trickflow.com/partdetail....0&autoview=sku

You're right. That looks like a sweet way to go to make some serious power. The notes at the bottom of the product page state that Trick Flow reccomends you have a 10.5:1 Comp Ratio. Stock LS1 is 10.19:1. Whats up with that?

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I seriously doubt that you will only lose 30HP through the drivetrain.
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Originally Posted by John@Scoggin
I seriously doubt that you will only lose 30HP through the drivetrain.
Yeah, so I've been told. Guess I'm getting a good education. What's an average percentage of lose from flywheel to pavement?
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Originally Posted by Mumbles
Yeah, so I've been told. Guess I'm getting a good education. What's an average percentage of lose from flywheel to pavement?
Its a %, not a given amount.

Manual tranny's lose about 12-15% and auto's suck up 15-18% from what I have gathered.
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Originally Posted by TooLateVTEC
Its a %, not a given amount.

Manual tranny's lose about 12-15% and auto's suck up 15-18% from what I have gathered.
So with 400HP at the crank, I'm looking at around 340-350 to the wheels. Good info to know. Thanks.
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I cannot believe that Edelbrock would even think of running "no tune needed" as an add.
What has marketing come down to anyways??

There are always a few fools that will believe
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
I cannot believe that Edelbrock would even think of running "no tune needed" as an add.
What has marketing come down to anyways??

There are always a few fools that will believe
So...are you just being an *** or are you saying that Edlebrock is full of ****?

I asked the questions in my OP in order to learn. That way I don't purchase an inferior product. I'd be happy if you have an opinion to just answer the question.
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Well sarcasm actualy.

Tuning is preferable even on a stock car right down to the paper filter. You would have to see a stock tune to understand.

Running a cammed car without a tune is one of my pep-peevs. I never could understand that.

I'm sure the cam is a good little cam, but I would certainly tune it for best results.
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The cam is made so its not such a change the ecu can't compensate for it.

Even a stock car can benefit from a peformance tune vs OEM factory tune.

It a good little cam for someone who is just getting their feet wet and are looking for mild gains so they dont have to spend more money on a whole bunch of other stuff that comes along with more powerful cams.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Well sarcasm actualy.

Tuning is preferable even on a stock car right down to the paper filter. You would have to see a stock tune to understand.

Running a cammed car without a tune is one of my pep-peevs. I never could understand that.

I'm sure the cam is a good little cam, but I would certainly tune it for best results.
Cool. Thats the kind of responses I was hoping for. A tune is just necessary, no matter what cam (or any other mod) you install to maximize power and effenciency. Thats kinda what I thought, but wasn't familiar with the Edlebrock and wanted to know if their claims were true. Thanks, man.
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
The cam is made so its not such a change the ecu can't compensate for it.

Even a stock car can benefit from a peformance tune vs OEM factory tune.

It a good little cam for someone who is just getting their feet wet and are looking for mild gains so they dont have to spend more money on a whole bunch of other stuff that comes along with more powerful cams.
Thanks Blanco.
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No one else noticed that is made 433 in a 2001 ls6?
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Originally Posted by streetassasin
No one else noticed that is made 433 in a 2001 ls6?
Fairly sure that's either on an engine dyno/flywheel and of course inflated numbers to sell a product



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