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I just wanted all to know that I had Frost do my tune and it is perfect!!!:D
He also shipped it the same day he finished it and it was a saturday!!
The price is unbeatable not to mention the service!! Thanks again Steve!!:cheers:

See? I always tell people "frost" and they never listen... hes a good guy!

and how would you know it's perfect if you dont have the tools to verify it?

and how would you know it's perfect if you dont have the tools to verify it?

Maybe the car wouldnt idle before and frost made it idle? it could be something that simple to make a customer happy man, why you gotta rain on his parade.

Maybe the car wouldnt idle before and frost made it idle? it could be something that simple to make a customer happy man, why you gotta rain on his parade.

Its an honest question if you think about it.

I got a mail order tune that ran great for DDing around town and short zips.
Once I data logged it with HPT at the track and I'm seeing 12.4 to 13.9 A/F @ WOT with 4º of knock when I shift to 3rd...

You can always question anything. Steve knows what he is doing. If there is anything wrong that is found he will fix it.

Another happy customer here too.

+1 for FROST...he hooked it up!!! Had it back the second day after shipping it!!:D

You can always question anything. Steve knows what he is doing. If there is anything wrong that is found he will fix it.

Not entirely true, I tried to send him my pcm to double check what the previous tuner had done and he said he doesn't "tune over" other tuners stuff and that he wouldn't look to see if anything was wrong...........

+1 More for Frost. My tune is very good IMO. Fuel mileage is great car runs great. I'd send my computer to him again in a heartbeat

Not entirely true, I tried to send him my pcm to double check what the previous tuner had done and he said he doesn't "tune over" other tuners stuff and that he wouldn't look to see if anything was wrong...........

Well I will also do the same, If a person brings me a car to tune and it has a previous tune by someone else, I just flash it back to stock and start over, I will not go through every parameter to see if the other tuner did anything out of the ordinary...

Well I will also do the same, If a person brings me a car to tune and it has a previous tune by someone else, I just flash it back to stock and start over, I will not go through every parameter to see if the other tuner did anything out of the ordinary...


sounds very reasonable to me, from what I'm reading and learning before I try to start my tune it seems that there are several ways to do most things to get the same/similar results...if one tuner tunes a different way seems like it could cause some issues and it would take a while to look through every little detail and compare when it would be much easier to start from scratch

kinda like wiring, nothing is worse than going back over someone else's hacked up best buy/ walmart install wiring trying to figure out what they did and why they did it so you can un-do it and fix it

Thanks for the nice words guys...

In regards to clg82; he is the only troll that has ever followed my business around. He had issues with his car. He got mad because (seriously) I wouldn't work on his stuff for free. He got a tune that he thought was questionable and he wanted to send it to me through the mail (the PCM) have me put it on my bench and hook it up and check through what ANOTHER TUNER DID WITHOUT CHARGING HIM. After that, I was supposed to also pack it up and take it back and ship it for him on my time.

Who gets mad because a business won't work on their stuff for free? He got a short vacation from another board over it and has been mad at me since. See for yourselves in posts 15-17 in this thread: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109899&highlight=free

Thanks for the nice words guys...

In regards to clg82; he is the only troll that has ever followed my business around. He had issues with his car. He got mad because (seriously) I wouldn't work on his stuff for free. He got a tune that he thought was questionable and he wanted to send it to me through the mail (the PCM) have me put it on my bench and hook it up and check through what ANOTHER TUNER DID WITHOUT CHARGING HIM. After that, I was supposed to also pack it up and take it back and ship it for him on my time.

Who gets mad because a business won't work on their stuff for free? He got a short vacation from another board over it and has been mad at me since. See for yourselves in posts 15-17 in this thread: http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109899&highlight=free

Not entirely true, I tried to send him my pcm to double check what the previous tuner had done and he said he doesn't "tune over" other tuners stuff and that he wouldn't look to see if anything was wrong...........

Dude you are an idiot. If you doubted your previous "tuners ability or purchased one you were unfamiliar about" then its your fault and no one should fix it for free because of your incompetence.

Frost is helping me via e-mail with my tune, and has been nothing short of professional, and prompt.

I have nothing but respect for the "real" tuners and their knowledge, I see frost and many other real tuners helping many people with advice and guidance.

It seems to be the people who "expect" something for nothing that you have problems with.

Dude you are an idiot. If you doubted your previous "tuners ability or purchased one you were unfamiliar about" then its your fault and no one should fix it for free because of your incompetence.

Like a bad neighbor,there's always an asshole in the bunch.Don't sweat over it FROST.

Not entirely true, I tried to send him my pcm to double check what the previous tuner had done and he said he doesn't "tune over" other tuners stuff and that he wouldn't look to see if anything was wrong...........

Well he didn't tune it. Nothing worse than being the guy in the middle. Steve is a good guy.

wow...that is pretty rediculious to expect something for free small or not. now if it was a customer that has had stuff done in the past I can see "hookin" someone up but he has no reason to complain.

wow...that is pretty rediculious to expect something for free small or not. now if it was a customer that has had stuff done in the past I can see "hookin" someone up but he has no reason to complain.


exactly, recently I saw a member post here about how he liked seeing fucked up tunes so I asked about him looking at mine, but I was sure to mention I understood he runs a business and might not have time to do something for free or even want to

these guys run a business and it seems to be a pretty competitive one, plus if he tells you "yeah that tune is crap" then it just opens a can of worms when you get it back and tell everyone how Frost said brand X can't tune for shit or so on

forst has been more than helpful.. shipped him my pcm thursday and its already on its way back... answers every question and pm i send him..

Frost is helping me via e-mail with my tune, and has been nothing short of professional, and prompt.

I have nothing but respect for the "real" tuners and their knowledge, I see frost and many other real tuners helping many people with advice and guidance.

It seems to be the people who "expect" something for nothing that you have problems with.

Frost didn't give me that option......and I offered to pay for shipping both ways......I didn't realise that hooking the pcm to your tuner and looking at it for five minutes was that big of a deal........Frost is also pissed at me cause I let everyone know that he was getting sued by his former company he worked before opening the tuning company he has now but he failed to mention that ..........typical

Frost didn't give me that option......and I offered to pay for shipping both ways......I didn't realise that hooking the pcm to your tuner and looking at it for five minutes was that big of a deal........Frost is also pissed at me cause I let everyone know that he was getting sued by his former company he worked before opening the tuning company he has now but he failed to mention that ..........typical

Whats is that anyone's business but his? Also its a business you don't make money by doing shit for free. I wouldn't mess with anyone else's tunes either.

Frost didn't give me that option......and I offered to pay for shipping both ways......I didn't realise that hooking the pcm to your tuner and looking at it for five minutes was that big of a deal........Frost is also pissed at me cause I let everyone know that he was getting sued by his former company he worked before opening the tuning company he has now but he failed to mention that ..........typical

Seriously?!

You mean he didn't want to take his time to look at someone else's mess, tell you what's wrong with it, take the time to go get a shipping label and mail it back to you for free?

Time is money and if you didn't offer to pay for his, then you have no right to bitch about not getting a service for free.

Reminds me of the asshats that came into circuit city wasting my time for an hour or more then going to walmart to buy the shit even though we could match the price.

Frost didn't give me that option......and I offered to pay for shipping both ways......I didn't realise that hooking the pcm to your tuner and looking at it for five minutes was that big of a deal........Frost is also pissed at me cause I let everyone know that he was getting sued by his former company he worked before opening the tuning company he has now but he failed to mention that ..........typical

It is no ones business but his and the other company what is or is not happening.

You are a troll and need to keep your thoughts to yourself.:lock::ban:

frost is also helpfull on the forum.

what does a mail order tune go for? about how much? TC

Frost didn't give me that option......and I offered to pay for shipping both ways......I didn't realise that hooking the pcm to your tuner and looking at it for five minutes was that big of a deal........Frost is also pissed at me cause I let everyone know that he was getting sued by his former company he worked before opening the tuning company he has now but he failed to mention that ..........typical

I "gave him the option" because he is paying customer.

I have never been sued and I am not being sued now. You are lying.

How can you HONESTLY be mad that I won't work for free for you?

and how would you know it's perfect if you dont have the tools to verify it?

Well I will also do the same, If a person brings me a car to tune and it has a previous tune by someone else, I just flash it back to stock and start over, I will not go through every parameter to see if the other tuner did anything out of the ordinary...

frost is also helpfull on the forum.

All of these are very legitimate comments. The only way to tell if your tune is perfect is through extensive data-logging and track and dyno time. I have tried (foolishly) to "fix" a bad tune before, and I will never do that again. As for the third quote, YES.

Clg82, you've said your piece (multiple times). Having done so, please do not post again in this thread. Thanks.

Not entirely true, I tried to send him my pcm to double check what the previous tuner had done and he said he doesn't "tune over" other tuners stuff and that he wouldn't look to see if anything was wrong...........

No offense...but you're a meathead...if he tunes something HIMSELF and messes it up, I'm pretty sure he'd fix it...why should he fix someone elses mistake. I never bother looking at anyone elses tunes, at most I say "wow this runs like crap" and just flash right over it with a bone stock file, and then tune from a clean slate...nothing worse than fixing someone elses disaster...oh wait there is...fixing it for free for no reason...

Clg82, you've said your piece (multiple times). Having done so, please do not post again in this thread. Thanks.

Yes Sharpe I will now stay out of this thread, if you could please have them stop bashing me then........:punch::lock:

Yes Sharpe I will now stay out of this thread, if you could please have them stop bashing me then........:punch::lock:
You were warned by a Mod to stop your sponsor bashing, who would not work for free for you. Maybe after a week vacation you will chill out. If you continue after your vacation you're gone for good.

~ Craig

FWIW, I've retuned 2 of Frost's mail orders (for engine builds, not because of faulty work) and his tunes were pretty damn spot on for the mods done to the cars at the time.

Of course an mail order tune isn't going to be perfect for every application, it's impossible and you shouldn't blame the tuner. Just because Frost, or anybody else commands a PCM to give a 12.8 A/F, doesn't mean the car is going to do that. Which has nothing to do with him, or his tuning abilities. I've had cars that required a commaned 11.5 A/F in the PE table, just to reach 13.0 on the street.

For the money, Frosts stuff is damn good.

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Frost didn't give me that option......and I offered to pay for shipping both ways......I didn't realise that hooking the pcm to your tuner and looking at it for five minutes was that big of a deal........Frost is also pissed at me cause I let everyone know that he was getting sued by his former company he worked before opening the tuning company he has now but he failed to mention that ..........typical

I "gave him the option" because he is paying customer.

I have never been sued and I am not being sued now. You are lying.

How can you HONESTLY be mad that I won't work for free for you?


I haven't had time to look through the forums recently so I failed to comment on this post in a timely manner. As Frost's former employer I can definitively say that we are not now and have never in the past sued Steve. Nor have we stated or implied that we had taken this action or planned to take this action to anyone.

Though we do not work with Steve at this time, I do not wish to see our company's name used for false testimony nor do I wish to have anyone else's reputation tarnished on the basis of false information.