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Street Review: Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials vs Nitto NT555R - 275/40/17

Old 06-13-2009, 01:49 PM
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Default Street Review: Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials vs Nitto NT555R - 275/40/17

I just finished off my Nittos after about 20,000 miles (I don't know how I got that many miles out of them but I'm not complaining, especially considering the track rentals and all the racing...). So I just put on some new Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials this morning that I picked up from Summit Racing.

My car is a 2002 Z28 that with the cutout closed how I drove it today dynoed 400/367 SAE on a dynojet (408/380 cutout open). It's got a 12-bolt with 4.10s and also an MN12 transmission with the very short gear ratios. On the Nittos in this weather (70 degrees or so), first gear is useless from any speed. If I did a burnout first, I could roll into it quick but it was iffy when just punching it. Second gear hooked half the time, sometimes chirping a little bit but often just spinning through the gear the first time. A burnout and they always hooked right up in second.

Now with the ET Streets, I alway have traction in second without a burnout. In first, I can punch it from low in first (outside of my real powerband, say 20mph or less) and it hooks right up and through the gear. If I just punch it from right in the powerband in first, it spins through the rest of first but is manageable until I hit second. With a burnout, it just hooks anywhere in first. I haven't tried launching hard on the street yet after a burnout but I will post results when I get a chance and good spot to try it.

The Nittos drove very much like a street tire. The Mickey Thompsons are similar but you can feel them walk and sway a little bit when making sharp turns or changing lanes quickly, which I never noticed on the Nittos. It's not anything that bothers me at all but I guess it might bother a few people who like the twisties. If this is the case, you might want to stick with the Nittos or something with a stiffer sidewall.

Just thought I'd throw this review up. Clearly the MTs won't last nearly as long (maybe get 5-6k out of them I'm thinking), but the traction difference is unreal, especially just punching it without doing a burnout. I've never been able to hit it at all in first without going sideways down the road. Now it spins a bit but I can stay in it until I hit second. And second hasn't spun once yet without doing a burnout.

Haven't tested in the rain on the MTs but I don't drive the car in the rain so unless I get caught randomly, it will stay that way. Happened a couple times in the Nittos and they were fine, just had to take it a little easier than you would with a regular street tire. I hear the MTs don't like rain at all so I'll be very careful if it ever happens. I don't expect them to do well in the rain but hopefully I never have to find out.

UPDATE - I just took the car out again today after dropping the pressure to 25 pounds. I had them at 30 pounds yesterday for this review. Now with it at 25 pounds, I punched it twice in first, both in the powerband, and it dead hooked. It was awesome and a first for this car on this setup.

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Old 06-13-2009, 02:40 PM
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nice review..I cant believe you got that many miles out of the nittos
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Originally Posted by hfthe3rd
nice review..I cant believe you got that many miles out of the nittos
Tell me about it. I took them to multiple track rentals (~15 passes each) and god knows how many other races. I don't go easy on my car, either.
Old 06-13-2009, 06:19 PM
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Nice review...I will consider MT's as im looking for a drag radial in a 285 right now.
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Thanks for the review. I would love it if I could find a street tire that would hook up in first gear all the time! I've got 4.10s too, and I have NEVER gotten any traction from any spot in first gear under 100% throttle BFG GForce 275 daily driver tires. How well do pilot sports hold up? They come on the new ZR1, which makes me wonder if they wouldnt hook up.
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I made 415rwhp and i have 275 nittos and on a 75 degree day i dead hook first and when i slam 2nd i get no spin idk why but i dont
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Originally Posted by KurtRardin
Thanks for the review. I would love it if I could find a street tire that would hook up in first gear all the time! I've got 4.10s too, and I have NEVER gotten any traction from any spot in first gear under 100% throttle BFG GForce 275 daily driver tires. How well do pilot sports hold up? They come on the new ZR1, which makes me wonder if they wouldnt hook up.
I haven't tried all the tires out there but these ET Street Radials are definitely the stickiest I've found so far. My car has very little traction at this power level with the 4.10s and MN12 trans but I'm impressed with how the MTs are doing. And there was a BIG difference between 4.10s with the stock trans and 4.10s with the MN12 trans traction-wise.
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I made 415rwhp and i have 275 nittos and on a 75 degree day i dead hook first and when i slam 2nd i get no spin idk why but i dont
You are a lucky guy.
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Good Review! I really hope my nitto's hold up that long. I don't think your going to get 5-6k out of the mickeys though, more like 2-3k.
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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
I haven't tried all the tires out there but these ET Street Radials are definitely the stickiest I've found so far. My car has very little traction at this power level with the 4.10s and MN12 trans but I'm impressed with how the MTs are doing. And there was a BIG difference between 4.10s with the stock trans and 4.10s with the MN12 trans traction-wise.

You are a lucky guy.


it's that 17's that kill you...I'm running Nitto 555R's but in 15's and they can dead hook all day in 1st gear w/ 440rwhp.

I'll be moving to the MT's one of these days tho...

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Originally Posted by Nimitz87
it's that 17's that kill you...I'm running Nitto 555R's but in 15's and they can dead hook all day in 1st gear w/ 440rwhp.

I'll be moving to the MT's one of these days tho...

Chad
It's also the MN12 trans with the 4.10s. I noticed a HUGE difference in traction going from 4.10s with the stock trans to 4.10s with the MN12. But I know what you mean; it would definitely do better on the Nittos with smaller wheels.

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Originally Posted by PewterScreaminMach
It's also the MN12 trans with the 4.10s. I noticed a HUGE difference in traction going from 4.10s with the stock trans to 4.10s with the MN12. But I know what you mean; it would definitely do better on the Nittos with smaller wheels.

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AH after reading your update it all makes sense...these soft tires don't like pressure at all for street use...the nittos are at 25-27lb , it also helps with wearing out the center. keep them at that pressure.

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mine are on 17x11 tt2's and i hook i think its the 4.10's and the shorter 1st gear that kill it i have 373s and a t56 i guess that helps
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Originally Posted by Nimitz87
AH after reading your update it all makes sense...these soft tires don't like pressure at all for street use...the nittos are at 25-27lb , it also helps with wearing out the center. keep them at that pressure.

Chad
Yeah, the pressure change made a big difference. I typically ran the Nittos around 26 pounds, though, so they just weren't NEARLY as sticky. But they still wore out in the middle more than the sides. I'm VERY happy with these Mickey Thompsons. I just tried a ton of first gear runs, all of which dead hooked, and from a dig I tried launching at around 2600-2700. It chirped for nearly a second then grabbed and went but that was without a burnout. I think without a burnout the highest I can go with a fast slip is around 2000, maybe a tad over but we'll see how it does when I can do a burnout on the street first. I'll test it when I get a chance.
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mine are on 17x11 tt2's and i hook i think its the 4.10's and the shorter 1st gear that kill it i have 373s and a t56 i guess that helps
Yeah, your wider tires and longer gears with the stock trans are probably completely different from this setup I'm running.
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sounds like my experiences with my nittos to mickeys...

1st gear rolling punch hooked all the time...
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From experience with the 17inch mickey's if you really want that car to hook well drop the air pressure down to about 17lbs warm. They will dead hook everytime, well they did on my car but every car is different. At the track though it is a must to run them in between 15-20 lbs for best results. I would not get caught in the rain with these tires every, I have and cause me to lose control going 30mph and I hit a guard rail.
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Originally Posted by transam69230
From experience with the 17inch mickey's if you really want that car to hook well drop the air pressure down to about 17lbs warm. They will dead hook everytime, well they did on my car but every car is different. At the track though it is a must to run them in between 15-20 lbs for best results. I would not get caught in the rain with these tires every, I have and cause me to lose control going 30mph and I hit a guard rail.
Yeah, I don't plan on getting caught in the rain but it has happened before. If it does, I'll keep the traction control on and take it REALLY easy unless I can just pull over somewhere and wait it out. They dead hook in first from a roll at about 25 pounds now so the only reason I'll change them is if I'm going from a dig in a planned race, otherwise there's no reason to lose the top end and walk around a bit more. I have 16" bias-ply ET Streets that I run at the track so these 17" ET Street Radials are stictly for the street and driving to the track.
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If only the Mickey's got the mileage the Nittos do! I hear about 4k MAX is what you can expect
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Did you get the newer directional tread pattern? If so they do just as well as the Nittos in the rain.

Try not to spin them cold on the street - you'll destroy them FAST.
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I only have 421hp but I got 503ft. lb. tq. I have 4:10's and the 17 x11 nittos and I hook. Screach a little in first but I haven't tried them on though.
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I've got 3k on my 315 mt's and they are still about 75%. but I don't do burnouts....even at the track.

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