Gen 5 Camaro Power-Adder Tech - 1st 2010 Camaro SS with Techco's 3.0 liter Twin Screw blower

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27664

Hey guys,
The title is not like what it sounds lol. My car is back at Techco Superchargers for the R&D. The process is underway and soon it will be available. They just finished the corvette LS3 and now going to my Camaro. They are great systems and very cool guys. Now just cant wait now till its done!

What the supercharger is all about:

The Revolutionary design allows air to move through the supercharger quickly and efficiently, without significant heat buildup, and at the highest resulting airflow volume at low boost output. The performance result is maximized horsepower and torque output.

Key Features of The TECHCO Reverse-Revolution Twin Screw Supercharger™.

* Reverse-Revolution Twin Screw Compressor with Asymmetric Multi-Lobe Screws
* 3.0L / 180 cu. in. Displacement
* Font Induction with Integrated Bypass
* 10 Inch Long Intake Runners
* Dual Stage Intercooler System with Single-Pass Coolant Flow through the A-Frame (2) Intercoolers, Large Capacity Heat Exchanger, High Volume Intercooler Pump and Recovery Tank
* Open Element Cold Air Kit with High-Flow Air Filter, CNC Venturi and High Flow Inlet Tube
* Extruded Aluminum fuel Rails with upgraded fuel injectors where applicable
* Separate 8-Rib FEAD (Front End Accessory Drive) with Dampener
* Ultra-Light Weight Aluminum Construction
* Flash Programmer



-My car had some computer problems before, but finally worked it out. (GM replaced the ECM because it was faulty.) -

-Here is a link to there site: http://www.techcointl.com/default.asp

Here is some pics of me dropping it off and doing some Baseline Dynos. (Dyno power was 380rwhp and 385 torque on a Dynojet) Pretty impressive numbers!

What the system looks like on a challenger
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/FILE0259.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/FILE0260.jpg

My Motor without the cover on
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/FILE0261.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/FILE0262.jpg

My car on the dyno
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/SSPX0372.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/SSPX0373.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/SSPX0374.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/SSPX0375.jpg

Dyno #s
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/SSPX0434.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z294/gotpball44/SSPX0433.jpg

Am I blind and I am not seeing any power numbers?

Gray, the pics shown above are not on the Camaro. That is a Ford or Mopar or something. Dynos above are just stock baseline pulls.

I saw a Techco blower in person at LMR earlier this week, one for a Hemi I believe. It looked okay, but damn that sucker was HEAVY. Not kidding, I'd guess 100+ lbs by itself. Results will be interesting, looking forward to seeing how they do.

The long runner assembly is what I think you are referring to. I don't think it will be much heavier, if at all, than the other twin screw blower.

They have already made 600 to the wheels with a 100% stock LS3.:D

Watch the video that shows the design and assembly of the Techco.
I think it goes well beyond "OK". :)

http://techco.vidiac.com/video/652fa616-105d-4c22-a265-9bd900bdf550.htm

http://techco.vidiac.com/

I'm going to have to see more before I am too convinced. I've seen the 510rwhp LS3 on 6psi, and the 548rwhp on 10psi. Maggies are doing that with a 2.3 instead of the 3.0 and are already known for their reliability as well. I look forward to results to see how this pans out and if it becomes a great long-lived competitor, but for now I don't see any advantage to their 2-3k more expensive 3.0 blower setup over a cheaper smaller Maggie making the same power.

I'm not making judgment just yet though as there aren't enough results to build an absolute opinion on, I look forward to future builds to see some results.

Gray, the pics shown above are not on the Camaro. That is a Ford or Mopar or something. Dynos above are just stock baseline pulls.

I saw a Techco blower in person at LMR earlier this week, one for a Hemi I believe. It looked okay, but damn that sucker was HEAVY. Not kidding, I'd guess 100+ lbs by itself. Results will be interesting, looking forward to seeing how they do.

Yeah, I knew the blower was on a Challenger and not the Camaro..

Just figured with the thread, there was going to be results.

this makes me very happy. I own a GTO (if you didnt realize looking at my name), and it always pissed me off the lack of blower options for my car, especially when compared to f-bodies, or mustangs. We didnt even get a twin screw.

This blower looks kick ass, and the fact that it is a 3L twin screw.... lol. I would imgaine with a forged motor, this thing will support a ton of power, i would say upward of 1000rwhp.

I'm going to have to see more before I am too convinced. I've seen the 510rwhp LS3 on 6psi, and the 548rwhp on 10psi. Maggies are doing that with a 2.3 instead of the 3.0 and are already known for their reliability as well. I look forward to results to see how this pans out and if it becomes a great long-lived competitor, but for now I don't see any advantage to their 2-3k more expensive 3.0 blower setup over a cheaper smaller Maggie making the same power.

I'm not making judgment just yet though as there aren't enough results to build an absolute opinion on, I look forward to future builds to see some results.

Please stop posting low numbers without the supporting info.:angel:
Those numbers were on 91 octane on a 1000% stock car.:nod:

Apples to Apples, the Techco will blow the Maggies away.:D

Please stop posting low numbers without the supporting info.:angel:
Those numbers were on 91 octane on a 1000% stock car.:nod:

Apples to Apples, the Techco will blow the Maggies away.:D

I didn't post low numbers, I posted the numbers they made and listed themselves. If that's low numbers, so be it. No need to treat me like a child the same way you do everyone else that doesn't post exactly what you would prefer.

We will know apples to apples when there are more results to compare. From what we have seen so far, neither one blows the other away, and like I said before I can't wait to see more results to see how it goes. I said plain as day that I am ready to see more results.

I did not say anything negative about the techco, nor did I post skewed numbers in anyway.The community could benefit more if you could allow other people to take objective standpoints instead of pushing your passion for the Techco on other people. When the results are in, they will speak for themselves ;) I don't know if I'm happy with what the Maggie will do on my Camaro yet, so I'm ready to see some Techco results. Obviously, I'm not a hater, just objective, as I'd like a better option but haven't seen enough examples of the Techco superiority to be as convinced as you.

The fact remains when people read those low numbers, they aren't getting the full picture because those numbers were initial runs on a 1000% stock car with 91 octane and people are going to compare those numbers to higher numbers from other systems running 93 octane and other mods.

No one treated you like a child. Why do you think I posted the angel?
I think you're overreacting a bit.

Stout stock numbers. Any break in on that thing?

W

Please stop posting low numbers without the supporting info.:angel:
Those numbers were on 91 octane on a 1000% stock car.:nod:

Apples to Apples, the Techco will blow the Maggies away.:D

So a 1000% stock car is 10 times more stock than a 100% stock car? I'll wait for the real numbers to come out before I make a judgement as well but I haven't seen anything that blows me away yet.

looks like an edelbrock unit to me with some fancy lettering on it....and as for the "reverse-revolutoin" is that like an anti-coup? Like this is the de-evolution of the supercharger?

Oh and AGAIN according to kenne bell IF a supercharger that is designed as the techco or HIS turns in reverse and does NOT force the air through the middle of the rotors but INSTEAD around the outside of the case, then it is NOT classified as a TVS or Twin screw supercharger. It is in fact then just a roots blower, meaning it has NOT the potential that the TVS/twin screw styles have.

but still good effort anyway

since when does a supercharger need a long runner anyway?
can you explain to us feeble forward minded individuals why a supercharger needs such a long runner?

looks like an edelbrock unit to me with some fancy lettering on it....and as for the "reverse-revolutoin" is that like an anti-coup? Like this is the de-evolution of the supercharger?

Oh and AGAIN according to kenne bell IF a supercharger that is designed as the techco or HIS turns in reverse and does NOT force the air through the middle of the rotors but INSTEAD around the outside of the case, then it is NOT classified as a TVS or Twin screw supercharger. It is in fact then just a roots blower, meaning it has NOT the potential that the TVS/twin screw styles have.

but still good effort anyway

since when does a supercharger need a long runner anyway?
can you explain to us feeble forward minded individuals why a supercharger needs such a long runner?

I think you have the wrong idea. When they say "Reverse revolution", they dont mean the screws just turn the opposite way, thereby pulling air into the middle of the lobes and pushing it top the outside of the case. Their twin screw works the same as every twin screw in that it compresses the air down the screws. However, what is "reverse" is that the air isnt being sucked in the back, compressed towards the front, and blown out the bottom into the intercooler. The air is being sucked into the front, compressed as it moves towards the back of the case, and gets blown upwards into the intercooler.

Do you follow me?

As far as not having the potential of a TVS or twin screw, that would be incorrect due to the above explanation. Twin screws are extremely efficient, with a lot of potential with this being a large 3 liter unit.

As to why it needs a long runner, it is the same principle as without the super-charger. Longer runners make more torque than shorter runners, regardless of whether the air is moving at normal atmospheric pressure or under 15lbs of boost. It also affects "pressure wave tuning", which is a bit complicated but refers to the "high pressure---low pressure----high pressure" pattern of the air moving inside the runner. This way, you have the runner meet the cylinder head port right in an area of "high pressure", so as to better fill the cylinder with the new air\fuel mixture.

Due to the intake manifold being on top of the blower, and the air coming from the blower up into the intercooler and then entering the runner, the runner is larger as it travels from the top of the setup all the way down to the bottom to the cylinder head's intake ports. With a traditional setup, the blower is on top of the intercooler, the air comes into the blower and pushes down into the intercooler. From there, it only has a short way to go in the runner from the intercooler exit to the cylinder head, which is right below it.


Does this help at all? If i made some errors or mistakes that anybody sees, please feel free to correct my mistakes as i dont want to spread false info, or God forbid.... create more interwebs myth and dogma.

Yes, Johny, you pretty much got it right. The Techo guys are applying the same design into this unit that they pioneered on the Series VI unit that they built as part of Saleen. My Series VI is a 2.3 L and made an additional 138rwhp 137lb/ft on only 4.5 psi, so I'm sure this 3 L monster will really crank out the low end torque. Can't wait to see what kind of numbers it puts out.

Any numbers yet?

9k?? wow

how can they post numbers when the only one installed in the pic is on a dodge product....LOL

yah its technically FAIL....

that is all

how can they post numbers when the only one installed in the pic is on a dodge product....LOL

yah its technically FAIL....

that is all

ummm.... maybe because they have them on a few vettes already. So its a fail huh? ok.

9k?? wow
It's $8,500 including installation and tuning.

how can they post numbers when the only one installed in the pic is on a dodge product....LOL

yah its technically FAIL....

that is all

GEEKtek= FAIL

The Techco will be THE blower to beat for the new Camaro and G8.

I will personally be reminding people of this next year when I'm proven to be correct.

For that price somebody could build a crazy turbo setup.

It's $8,500 including installation and tuning.



GEEKtek= FAIL

The Techco will be THE blower to beat for the new Camaro and G8.

I will personally be reminding people of this next year when I'm proven to be correct.

Oh puleeeeezzzeeee you think you are so innovative with your geek tek BS. wow, if i had a dollar for everytime someone got offended or put in their place and used that term, i would have enough to buy 2 maggies and blow the techco away anyway with 3 wheels and a blown intercooler.

The TVS (read maggie) is the ONLY PROVEN "blower" for the Camaro/G8. Seeing as how techco has to actually produce DICK on their website, or any forum that is not trolled up by you that is.

You need to go back to the drawing board with your unoriginal nutswinging ass and see where your mom and dad went wrong.

and i was wrong at least

and GTO....its not that they dont have them on a car, its that its NOT on a camaro like the thread says and then C5nutswinger comes on and touts its the ONE TO BEAT. its def the ONE alright....the one TO BE SEEN, like the weiand intake.

remember, just because its done doesnt mean its right. the maggies have made more power from what i have seen and heard personally and online. just like i keep posting....IF it turns in reverse then it CANNOT be called a TVS. it is just a roots blower.

its techco = techfail.....my apologies

I think you have the wrong idea. When they say "Reverse revolution", they dont mean the screws just turn the opposite way, thereby pulling air into the middle of the lobes and pushing it top the outside of the case. Their twin screw works the same as every twin screw in that it compresses the air down the screws. However, what is "reverse" is that the air isnt being sucked in the back, compressed towards the front, and blown out the bottom into the intercooler. The air is being sucked into the front, compressed as it moves towards the back of the case, and gets blown upwards into the intercooler.

Do you follow me?

As far as not having the potential of a TVS or twin screw, that would be incorrect due to the above explanation. Twin screws are extremely efficient, with a lot of potential with this being a large 3 liter unit.

As to why it needs a long runner, it is the same principle as without the super-charger. Longer runners make more torque than shorter runners, regardless of whether the air is moving at normal atmospheric pressure or under 15lbs of boost. It also affects "pressure wave tuning", which is a bit complicated but refers to the "high pressure---low pressure----high pressure" pattern of the air moving inside the runner. This way, you have the runner meet the cylinder head port right in an area of "high pressure", so as to better fill the cylinder with the new air\fuel mixture.

Due to the intake manifold being on top of the blower, and the air coming from the blower up into the intercooler and then entering the runner, the runner is larger as it travels from the top of the setup all the way down to the bottom to the cylinder head's intake ports. With a traditional setup, the blower is on top of the intercooler, the air comes into the blower and pushes down into the intercooler. From there, it only has a short way to go in the runner from the intercooler exit to the cylinder head, which is right below it.


Does this help at all? If i made some errors or mistakes that anybody sees, please feel free to correct my mistakes as i dont want to spread false info, or God forbid.... create more interwebs myth and dogma.


im not sure you are getting what i meant either. you are over analyzing and not reading what is written

The Techco will be THE blower to beat for the new Camaro and G8.[/B]

I will personally be reminding people of this next year when I'm proven to be correct.

Dude, WTF????? I have read a bunch of your posts in regards to these superchargers, and you want to dismiss anything but these special Techno blow jobs that are not really proven yet??? Yeah I know, they made xxx hp on the dyno, so what? What if they have a bearing supplier issue and end up being total piece's of crap in THIS application? Not some Hemi crap or some old POS Salleen?
What is your motive here? Are you that mesmerized by their You Tube videos of their facilities? Do you sleep with the CEO?
It is ok to be believe in a product, but to come on here a say this thing is going to be the end all blower is gay.....
I like your last part of the quote above, that is a pretty bold statement for someone that does not even have it yet, probably don't have the car yet either.
A lot can happen in a year.
:ban: :supergay:

his motive is clear....we all know it

Well, i have no motive at all in this. What i can say is that assuming no issues come up like the hypothetical "Bearing supplier issue", and this blower is installed on a number of cars, these things will perform. Twin screw blowers are kick ass, pretty much the best of both worlds (roots and centri). Big bottom end with no fall off in top end. This blower is also plenty big to feed a 6.2L LS3 motor. Hell, big enough for a 7L actually. If this blower gets dropped on some forged motors and people turn up the boost, i have a feeling some huge numbers will be popping up both on the dyno and the tracks.

Just my 2 cents. I cant say for sure. What i do know is that alot of people have been wanting to see the twin screw applications for our cars (GM). there really isnt much support with our cars and twin screws. HOpefully this will change.

Well, i have no motive at all in this. What i can say is that assuming no issues come up like the hypothetical "Bearing supplier issue", and this blower is installed on a number of cars, these things will perform. Twin screw blowers are kick ass, pretty much the best of both worlds (roots and centri). Big bottom end with no fall off in top end. This blower is also plenty big to feed a 6.2L LS3 motor. Hell, big enough for a 7L actually. If this blower gets dropped on some forged motors and people turn up the boost, i have a feeling some huge numbers will be popping up both on the dyno and the tracks.

Just my 2 cents. I cant say for sure. What i do know is that alot of people have been wanting to see the twin screw applications for our cars (GM). there really isnt much support with our cars and twin screws. HOpefully this will change.

Agreed. Just because 427C5 is swingin on Techco's nuts doesn't justify bashing their upcoming blower system. They obviously don't have any numbers on a Camaro installation to post up yet, so just give it some time. If all upcoming s/c manufacturer's for the 5th gen took some of your advice.....the "Maggie" would be the ONLY option. And one option is just not acceptable....I don't see how anyone could agree that it is. Options are always a good thing, and a 3 L twin screw is not something to sneeze at. Just my .02

im only getting on to him because he is talking out of his ass about it. i have pointed out onnumerous occasions what the prob is with calling it a tvs or twin screw if it turns in reverse from a tvs(maggie) like they say, then he vehemently defends it and calls the maggie down saying it does not make the power when it does. nearly ANY FI system is going to add good power because of the way the new engines are designed.

Then he tries to insult mine AND nine balls intelligence as well as a bunch of other people in a few threads about them. they are only on a few vehicles. Then i showed the exact tie in with the way these are designed and the way the edelbrocks are, and curiously enough they are in the same area....

I am glad to see TTC6 is here with a different name :eyes:

I'd say it's unprofessional to post in other manufacturer's threads,
but you're not a manufacturer. You guys just slap your name on Eaton products.

I hope you enjoyed your days of selling undersized and inefficient blowers to people who had
no other choices. An educated consumer will buy the Techco's twin screw and not your product.




You boys sure have a lot of mouth online.
Don't go away angry. Just go away.

damn this is getting personal

I am glad to see TTC6 is here with a different name :eyes:

Who is TTC6 (i assume you are implying 427C5 is the same person) , and what is the story with this individual? You 2 have a lover's quarrel or something?


I'd say it's unprofessional to post in other manufacturer's threads,
but you're not a manufacturer. You guys just slap your name on Eaton products.
I hope you enjoyed your days of selling undersized and inefficient blowers to people who had no other choices. An educated consumer will buy the Techco's twin screw and not your product.

You boys sure have a lot of mouth online.
Don't go away angry. Just go away.

Wow....ZING!!! Care to share why you dislike them so much?

I'd say it's unprofessional to post in other manufacturer's threads,
but you're not a manufacturer. You guys just slap your name on Eaton products.

I hope you enjoyed your days of selling undersized and inefficient blowers to people who had
no other choices. An educated consumer will buy the Techco's twin screw and not your product.




You boys sure have a lot of mouth online.
Don't go away angry. Just go away.

I'd say you sound like a twelve year old with a chip on his shoulder. Posts such as these do nothing to make people like the product. It actually makes me question whether or not it is even a product I should consider. I am educated, likely more than you are, but if I had to choose based on what I've seen and read so far you'd lose. Marketing isn't about making the other guy look bad, unless you really build a superior product, and so far you have provided no proof of this. Its just my take but I'd be willing to bet several others share this view. When you provide proof of a better product I will be more than glad to support you but until then you are just another wanna be in a pond of proven products. Have a good one and good luck. :chug:

I'd say you sound like a twelve year old with a chip on his shoulder. Posts such as these do nothing to make people like the product. It actually makes me question whether or not it is even a product I should consider. I am educated, likely more than you are, but if I had to choose based on what I've seen and read so far you'd lose. Marketing isn't about making the other guy look bad, unless you really build a superior product, and so far you have provided no proof of this. Its just my take but I'd be willing to bet several others share this view. When you provide proof of a better product I will be more than glad to support you but until then you are just another wanna be in a pond of proven products. Have a good one and good luck. :chug:
You're right. I'm not being professional. This is my HOBBY. I don't have to be professional when I discuss it.
I'm not marketing anything. I'm not even in the performance industry.
I don't care if you consider Techco or buy another inferior product.

If you can't see that the Techco unit for LSx cars is a superior design to the Eaton TVS, then you MAY not be as educated as you think


You ARE right about one thing. The chip on my shoulder. I've been working on that, and hi-po cars, since 1991.:nod:

I'm going to have to see more before I am too convinced. I've seen the 510rwhp LS3 on 6psi, and the 548rwhp on 10psi. Maggies are doing that with a 2.3 instead of the 3.0 and are already known for their reliability as well. I look forward to results to see how this pans out and if it becomes a great long-lived competitor, but for now I don't see any advantage to their 2-3k more expensive 3.0 blower setup over a cheaper smaller Maggie making the same power.

I'm not making judgment just yet though as there aren't enough results to build an absolute opinion on, I look forward to future builds to see some results.+1 on all of the above...

You're right. I'm not being professional. This is my HOBBY. I don't have to be professional when I discuss it.
I'm not marketing anything. I'm not even in the performance industry.
I don't care if you consider Techco or buy another inferior product.

If you can't see that the Techco unit for LSx cars is a superior design to the Eaton TVS, then you MAY not be as educated as you think


You ARE right about one thing. The chip on my shoulder. I've been working on that, and hi-po cars, since 1991.:nod:

I couldn't work on cars in 1991. I was in Iraq. But before that and after I've worked on a few. But you have all the answers and know everything so I'll get out of your little advertisement for a product you don't sell. :chug:

I'll get out of your little advertisement for a product you don't sell. :chug:
Do you have a problem with reading comprehension?
I AM NOT IN THE AUTOMOTIVE PARTS OR LABOR INDUSTRY.


I couldn't work on cars in 1991. I was in Iraq.

Yeah?
You weren't the only one.
But, you might be the only one that publicly announces it in an attempt to gain empathy on a CAR forum.
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension?
I AM NOT IN THE AUTOMOTIVE PARTS OR LABOR INDUSTRY.




Yeah?
You weren't the only one.
But, you might be the only one that publicly announces it in an attempt to gain empathy on a CAR forum.
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:

Its called sarcasm. Maybe you should reread it and you might understand it. As far as empathy I don't need it and I damn sure wasn't looking for any just stating a fact. Have you gotten any numbers for this so called "god" blower on the new Camaro? If not maybe you should get busy instead of spewing more crap on a CAR forum.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension?
I AM NOT IN THE AUTOMOTIVE PARTS OR LABOR INDUSTRY.




Yeah?
You weren't the only one.
But, you might be the only one that publicly announces it in an attempt to gain empathy on a CAR forum.
:eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes::eyes:


Ok ok enough talk, post up some numbers and/or dyno graphs.

i came into this thread looking forward to seeing numbers from such a highly touted blower adn got a bunch of bullshit being tossed around. this thread is nothing without pictures on a CAMARO and videos and numbers from said CAMARO, in addition to some analysis and features/issues it may have.

I'd say it's unprofessional to post in other manufacturer's threads,
but you're not a manufacturer. You guys just slap your name on Eaton products.

I hope you enjoyed your days of selling undersized and inefficient blowers to people who had
no other choices. An educated consumer will buy the Techco's twin screw and not your product.




You boys sure have a lot of mouth online.
Don't go away angry. Just go away.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension?[/B] I AM NOT IN THE AUTOMOTIVE PARTS OR LABOR INDUSTRY.



You make it very hard to understand.

The blower pic is on a Challenger, the Camaro on the dyno has the stock manifold on it, and lastly the Techco blower is going to destroy the Maggie in power potential and effeciency.

There is no meaningful information in this thread.
it is just a bunch of namecalling and nutswinging.
post pics of the blower on a Camaro and dyno graphs or lock this shit!
:ripped::pics::takethat::thefinger:givesfuck:soapb ox::sucks::STFU:

The blower pic is on a Challenger, the Camaro on the dyno has the stock manifold on it, and lastly the Techco blower is going to destroy the Maggie in power potential and effeciency.

We are waiting....

All I want to know is what the heck is "Font Induction" :D

This thing gonna suck up different sized and shaped letters? :D

All I want to know is what the heck is "Font Induction" :D

This thing gonna suck up different sized and shaped letters? :D

The "Font Induction" is this thread, and it seems to be the only thing powering this mythical car that no one has seen.

The "Font Induction" is this thread, and it seems to be the only thing powering this mythical car that no one has seen.

this whole thread is bullshit, there is no Camaro with this blower on it,
no pics of this mythical Camaro, no dyno graph. Nothing
Just a lot of bullshit going back and forth.

Op,
where is the proof
proof or you're full of shit.

:ripped:

The VERY FIRST words in this thread clearly shows a link to the Camaro5 thread detailing the progress of the 1st 2010 Camaro SS getting a Techco twin screw blower. I'll post it again for those who obviously missed it.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27664

The owner posted the following at 2am EST.
Should be done sometime this month now. I have some pics of it in the car, but it is a very rough mock up

If you want more details, PM the owner or contact Techco directly.

wow. Why are people getting all bent out of shape in this thread, saying shit like "dyno graphs or lock", calling it a "mythical blower", etc??

What dont some of you comprehend?? This is a new system for the camaro. They have a few blowers on vettes (go read the corvetteforum), have a few on mustangs, and on challengers\chargers. The results are great. I am sure they will be kick ass on the camaro as well.

What exactly is it that people are doubting....
- The performance?? Twin screws are awesome. Amazing low end, instant torque that holds all the way to red line. Just look at Kenne Bells, whipples, etc. They rock out.
- That these blowers exist?? They do. There are a few out already on mustangs, vettes' etc. They just started on the camaro, so give it time.
- The company and their rep?? Its a new company, but the guys were formally with i believe Saleen. They know what they are doing.
- The design?? The design is great. Long runners, large intercoolers, the intake is in the front so no need to bend a tube feeding into the back, making it hard to fit the blower.


Give the company time to sell more kits, and you will see your results. Jesus christ, some of you people act like retarded assholes. "where are the graphs? I call bullshit. blah blah". Holy shit!! Perhaps not everyone who gets one posts on this website, or the net at all.

The "Font Induction" is this thread, and it seems to be the only thing powering this mythical car that no one has seen.


You are right. The car is "mythical". Because it hasnt been posted on ls1tech, it is a non-existant, mythical being, not unlike the unicorn.

this whole thread is bullshit, there is no Camaro with this blower on it,
no pics of this mythical Camaro, no dyno graph. Nothing
Just a lot of bullshit going back and forth.

Op,
where is the proof
proof or you're full of shit.

:ripped:

Case in point about assholes getting worked up over nothing. You are right. there are no camaro's with this blower. This blower not only sucks and doesnt perform, but it also doesnt really exist. It both sucks and doesnt exist at the same time, thats how bad it sucks.

Perhaps the company is relatively new, havbe just started putting out their product, and in time more and more people will have them.what do you think of that? is that bullshit?

Do a search on the corvette forum. I believe there is 1 or 2 people there with this blower. There are a few guys on the stang boards with this blower. It performs. In fact, a 3L twin screw has a shit load of potential. Most guys with KB blowers or whipples on the vettes or stangs have 2L blowers up to 2.8L blowers. Those 2.8L blowers can get up to 1000rwhp. So what do you think about a 3L blower with a more direct airflow path (str8 into the front with no 180 degree bend tubing) and long runners, with larger intercoolers??

I think most people are upset because they thought they were going to see a camaro with a techco blower on it not that someone is going to be putting one on it. It would be like me asking for a pay raise because I'm working on my masters degree, well sure I'm working on it but until it is finished it doesn't mean a damn thing to anyone. And just because someone else has their masters doesn't make my partial one any more useful.

You are right. The car is "mythical". Because it hasnt been posted on ls1tech, it is a non-existant, mythical being, not unlike the unicorn.



Case in point about assholes getting worked up over nothing. You are right. there are no camaro's with this blower. This blower not only sucks and doesnt perform, but it also doesnt really exist. It both sucks and doesnt exist at the same time, thats how bad it sucks.

Perhaps the company is relatively new, havbe just started putting out their product, and in time more and more people will have them.what do you think of that? is that bullshit?

Do a search on the corvette forum. I believe there is 1 or 2 people there with this blower. There are a few guys on the stang boards with this blower. It performs. In fact, a 3L twin screw has a shit load of potential. Most guys with KB blowers or whipples on the vettes or stangs have 2L blowers up to 2.8L blowers. Those 2.8L blowers can get up to 1000rwhp. So what do you think about a 3L blower with a more direct airflow path (str8 into the front with no 180 degree bend tubing) and long runners, with larger intercoolers??

This is ridiculous, you act like the whole "Reverse Revolution" idea was created by Techco. The Gen 5 eaton blowers that Magna-charger put out for the Vettes and the GTOs have a front inlet, as do the New TVS units. So I ask you, disregarding long intake runners as well as greater displacement, what is the great deal here?

As for 427C5, I've seen your attitude and characteristics of posting on another forum, under a different screen name. You talk about the Magna-charger Rep posting in another Manufacturer's thread, about how unprofessional it is. Then go on to explain how this is just your hobby, that this isn't YOUR business interest. and how YOU don't have to act professional. That's complete BS, do you not think the other users on this forum will read through the thread and see how ridiculous you make yourself out to be?

Do us a favor and ask THE MANUFACTURER of the TECHCO to chime in, say hi, and maybe explain a bit about the blower and drop some back up information to your claims. That might help some of the users here start to get interested in the product you are so openly persuading the users here to purchase.

It's nice to see SOME people don't have their heads up their asses.

Give the company time to sell more kits, and you will see your results. Jesus christ, some of you people act like retarded assholes. "where are the graphs? I call bullshit. blah blah".

YUP.
They have definitely crawled out from under their rocks into this thread.
That's OK.
I look forward to rubbing their noses in their shit in the future when the Techco proves to be THE blower to beat for the Zeta cars.

It's funny, you don't hear ANYONE talking about the little 1900 anymore. Do you?:devil:

This is ridiculous, you act like the whole "Reverse Revolution" idea was created by Techco. The Gen 5 eaton blowers that Magna-charger put out for the Vettes and the GTOs have a front inlet, as do the New TVS units. So I ask you, disregarding long intake runners as well as greater displacement, what is the great deal here?
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Umm, i am not claiming that it was created by them. I am not even claiming it is some "magnificent breakthrough". I merely said that this setup has a straight path from intake into the blower as opposed to the 180 degree bend in the intake tube like setups that have the inlet in the rear. I am not even saying that this is a better setup then the rear inlet, i was merely mentioning it as something that was different then some other twin screw setups.

And you are asking me other than the long intake runners and greater displacement, what is the great deal?? I think you have the wrong idea here man. I am not touting this setup as the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am not saying that it is better than the competition. I was merely mentioning the good things this setup has going for it, thats all. Like mentioned, it has nice long intake runners for torque production. It has a large displacement at 3 liters, so it shouldnt have trouble feeding 402+ CI stroker motors. The front inlet gets rid of bends in the air path, which from what people are always talking about in intake and exhaust discussions, is a good thing. It also has large, dual intercooler cores that are easily removable.

I have no affiliation with this company. I am just a guy with a GTO who wishes there was a twin screw option for our cars, as so many people wish they could get a T.S. blower for the goats. I will probably go with a TVS blower when i save the money for FI for my car, unless maybe this Techco system is available for the goat.

I am also not saying this system is the shit, claiming its the best, better than every other system, etc. It just looks well designed, well thought out, and thankfully it is a Twin Screw option for our GM muscle cars, as it seems Ford guys get to choose between like 5 or 6 different twin screw systems while we get none.

I am really interested in the new Vortech twin screw system that is bieng put out. Of course, it is available for the mustang, but i am curious if it will work for any GM cars.

i would also like to apologize for calling people retarded, or assholes. It was uncalled for. While i think some people have copped an attitude that is totally uncalled for, i shouldnt have responded like that.

I am really interested in the new Vortech twin screw system that is bieng put out. Of course, it is available for the mustang, but i am curious if it will work for any GM cars.
Me too.
Because of the heavy weight of the Zeta cars (they need low end grunt and have to sustain it to redline) and because I think most people are using them as daily drivers (belt driven is less complicated then twin turbos), I think twin screws will be the blower of choice.

But, the more choices we have the better.
Vortech/Paxton (same company now) have a proven track record and I've has great success with their systems.


i would also like to apologize for calling people retarded, or assholes. It was uncalled for. While i think some people have copped an attitude that is totally uncalled for, i shouldnt have responded like that.

Don't apologize.
Your comment was spot on.

I saw a Techco blower in person at LMR earlier this week, one for a Hemi I believe. It looked okay, but damn that sucker was HEAVY. Not kidding, I'd guess 100+ lbs by itself. Results will be interesting, looking forward to seeing how they do.
The entire system is 80lbs, but you have to take into account the stock parts removed, so the total weight added to the car is less.

Also keep in mind the weight is not hanging off the front of the car like a centri, but father back above the engine for better weight distribution.:)

Me too.
Because of the heavy weight of the Zeta cars (they need low end grunt and have to sustain it to redline) and because I think most people are using them as daily drivers (belt driven is less complicated then twin turbos), I think twin screws will be the blower of choice.

But, the more choices we have the better.
Vortech/Paxton (same company now) have a proven track record and I've has great success with their systems.


I feel you, brother. I am a big fan of twin screws. I love, love, love love, absolutely loooove low end torque. For that reason, i am a fan of the positive displacement blower. The twin screws also hold onto that power into the redline, unlike older roots blowers.
Now, i am not knocking the maggie TVS systems out now, so dont anyone get the wrong idea. From what i have seen , the TVS systems are bad ass, are efficient, and put down big power from idle to redline... very similar to twin screw blowers. I am speaking of twin screws right now though, so enough about the TVS for now.

The twin screw systems arent very complex systems to install (like twin turbos), they are very reliable, and put out big power. I would love to have either a twin screw system or a TVS for my GTO. Sadly, i dont think anybody has their eyes tighly locked on the shrinking GTO market. :(



Don't apologize.
Your comment was spot on.

I feel ya. my comments came as a reaction to the way some people were posting. Saying crap like the Techo blower was "imaginary" and that it wasnt on any cars, demanding to see the dyno graphs, etc. What was that about?? Here i was (along with you) merely making fellow car guys aware of and commenting on a new system avaliable for the camaros, and people start jumping down my throat as if i owned the Techo company, and had come out and said that the Techo twin screw was the best system ever, out powers everything else, every other forced induction system sucks, and their mother is fat.
I mean Jesus, i just saw a cool twin screw option and thought i would comment on it. Holy shit.

I'd say it's unprofessional to post in other manufacturer's threads,
but you're not a manufacturer. You guys just slap your name on Eaton products.

I hope you enjoyed your days of selling undersized and inefficient blowers to people who had
no other choices. An educated consumer will buy the Techco's twin screw and not your product.




You boys sure have a lot of mouth online.
Don't go away angry. Just go away.


You obviously have no idea what we do, nor do you have any idea on what you are talking about. You continue to make this personal, you continue to badger me, get over it TTC6. I actually feel sorry for Techo, I certainly would not want someone like you supporting me.


Keep it up, I am sure they love your support.

You obviously have no idea what we do, nor do you have any idea on what you are talking about. You continue to make this personal, you continue to badger me, get over it TTC6. I actually feel sorry for Techo, I certainly would not want someone like you supporting me.


Keep it up, I am sure they love your support.

It's completely unprofessional for a salesman from a VENDOR to post in a thread discussing a MANUFACTURER'S product.

YOU stalk people from one website to another personally attacking them and lobby to have them banned behind close doors.

I'm not Techco supporter. I support the best products out there from HONEST companies.
Magnacharger is NOT it.
I support any company that does good business and makes a great product.
LPE, Turbo Technologies, Vortech/Paxton, ECS are just a few that I support.

When it's obvious you can't refute anything that's posted, all you have left is to try attack people personally and run behind close doors and have them banned.

This is my HOBBY. I don't need to be professional. I do that all day.
But, in my career, I am a professional. I know how to promote myself, my company, and my product.
I overcome the competition by educating my customers and overcoming objections with facts.
When my product can't compete, I don't lie, mislead, and personally attack just to make a sale.
I improve my product, find a new product, or (when a simple employee) I change companies.
Take notes.

It's completely unprofessional for a salesman from a VENDOR to post in a thread discussing a MANUFACTURER'S product.

YOU stalk people from one website to another personally attacking them and lobby to have them banned behind close doors.

I'm not Techco supporter. I support the best products out there from HONEST companies.
Magnacharger is NOT it.

When it's obvious you can't refute anything that's posted, all you have left is to try attack people personally and run behind close doors and have them banned.

This is my HOBBY. I don't need to be professional. I do that all day.
But, in my career, I am a professional. I know how to promote my product.
I overcome the competition by educating my customers and overcoming objections with facts.
When my product can't compete, I don't lie, mislead, and personally attack just to make a sale.
I improve my product, find a new product, or (when a simple employee) I change companies.
Take notes.

Rob, I do not need to sell my self of my product, especially to you. Our success speaks for itself. Plenty of people have had and are having great success with our product. You say this is your hobby? Is it your hobby to badger and harass people? I really enjoyed the phone call from you yesterday, try to find a new hobby. This one is not helping you, your credibility or Techo.

Rob, I do not need to sell my self of my product, especially to you. Our success speaks for itself. Plenty of people have had and are having great success with our product. You say this is your hobby? Is it your hobby to badger and harass people? I really enjoyed the phone call from you yesterday, try to find a new hobby. This one is not helping you, your credibility or Techo.

"Our Credibility"?
What a joke.
In addition to STILL telling people to put inefficient and underperforming MP112's on LS2s, you have been stalking me from one site to another lobbying to have me banned.

Techco doesn't need any help from me.
Techco DESIGNED and MANUFACTURES a better product than Magnacharger SELLS.
My credibility is in tact. No one can dispute anything I post and my experience speaks for itself.

As far as the unprofessional marketing I've tried to educate you about.
Here's another lesson.
Trying to discredit me and then have me linked to Techco in an effort to discredit thair company, is transparent and underhanded.
If anyone reads my posts, they will see that I am not in the auto business.

I much rather deal with you in person, but that opportunity has not risen yet.


Instead of trying to attack people in an attempt to get the heat of yourself in another company's thread ,
why don't you answer the following:

Why were you telling people 1 month ago a 2300 was too big for a stock motor and now all you are selling for stock motors are 2300s?

Why would you push a blower designed to be maxed out on a 4.6 liter motor to guys with 6.0 liter motors?

How many people have been yanking off your blowers and trashing them because they have zero expandability and can NOT compete with the other systems available ?????


Credibility?
What a joke.
Many people have you figured out, pal.

Credibility?
What a joke.

In addition to STILL telling people to put MP112's on LS2s, you have been stalking me from one site to another lobbying to have me banned.

Techco doesn't need any help from me
Techco DESIGNED and MANUFACTURES a better product than Magnacharger SELLS.
My credibility is in tact. No one can dispute anything I post and my resume speaks for itself.

I do not follow you anywhere....I am everywhere.

Again, thanks for the harassing phone call yesterday. It was a pleasure.

"Our Credibility"?
What a joke.
In addition to STILL telling people to put inefficient and underperforming MP112's on LS2s, you have been stalking me from one site to another lobbying to have me banned.

How many people have been yanking off your blowers and trashing them because they have zero expandability and can NOT compete with the other systems available ?????


Techco doesn't need any help from me.
Techco DESIGNED and MANUFACTURES a better product than Magnacharger SELLS.
My credibility is in tact. No one can dispute anything I post and my experience speaks for itself.

As far as the unprofessional marketing I've tried to educate you about.
Here's another lesson.
Trying to discredit me and then have me linked to Techco in an effort to discredit thair company, is transparent and underhanded.
If anyone reads my posts, they will see that I am not in the auto business.

I much rather deal with you in person, but that opportunity has not risen yet.

Just so I can reply to the modification you made:


You have no idea what you are talking about, you have admitted to these actions being a "hobby" for you. This would lead any intelligent human being to believe that you enjoy badgering and harassing people.

I have not tried to discredit Techo, Procharger, Whipple, KB, Vortech, or anyone. Nor have I attempted to do so by associating them with you, you took care of that for me.

Rob, I have not tried to get you banned, I have not "lobbied" for it....you sir have done that on your own merit.

Again, Thanks for the harassing phone call yesterday I enjoyed it.

I have not tried to discredit Techo, Procharger, Whipple, KB, Vortech, or anyone.
You can't. Because they MANUFACTURE a better product than magnacharger SELLS.

. Nor have I attempted to do so by associating them with you, you took care of that for me.
Apparently, you can't read.
I'll add that to the list.

"Our Credibility"?
What a joke.
In addition to STILL telling people to put inefficient and underperforming MP112's on LS2s, you have been stalking me from one site to another lobbying to have me banned.

Techco doesn't need any help from me.
Techco DESIGNED and MANUFACTURES a better product than Magnacharger SELLS.
My credibility is in tact. No one can dispute anything I post and my experience speaks for itself.

As far as the unprofessional marketing I've tried to educate you about.
Here's another lesson.
Trying to discredit me and then have me linked to Techco in an effort to discredit thair company, is transparent and underhanded.
If anyone reads my posts, they will see that I am not in the auto business.

I much rather deal with you in person, but that opportunity has not risen yet.

Instead of attacking people trying to get the heat of yourself,
why don't you answer the following:


Why were you telling people 1 month ago a 2300 was too big for a stock motor and now all you are selling for stock motors are 2300s?

Why would you push a blower designed to be maxed out on a 4.6 liter motor to guys with 6.0 liter motors?

How many people have been yanking off your blowers and trashing them because they have zero expandability and can NOT compete with the other systems available ?????


Credibility?
What a joke.
Many people have you figured out, pal.

In with your modification again:
I have not attacked anyone, if you feel as though I have then you must have a personal issue.

As for the 2300, we do feel that it is too big for a stock motor, however the general public ( you included) stated you wanted a 2.3L blower....I guess that would be covered under the "Marketing Lesson" you mentioned. The public spoke, and we responded.

The Mp112 supercharger at 6 PSI adds 120 HP to a 4.8, 5.3, 6.0 engine. It is operating in its efficiency range and is the perfect sized supercharger for what it does. If people are "ripping off" their 112 magna chargers because they went to a larger displacement motor then we now have the replacement for them.

Rob you continue to badger and play the same tune, when are you going to move on?

You can't. Because they MANUFACTURE a better product than magnacharger SELLS.


Apparently, you can't read.
I'll add that to the list.


They manufacture a different product, each has its positives and negatives.

Thank you so much for the harassing phone call yesterday, it shows your true direction with this.