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BoostJunkieXL
06-28-2009, 08:26 PM
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss180/BoostJunkieXL/DynoSheet.jpg

418hp/386tq? Any thoughts guys? Mods in sig. Thanks for any input


allngn_c5
06-28-2009, 08:35 PM
Pretty decent for what you got bro. Looks like its time to step up to a Vengeance Ported Fast 92 though.

What exhaust are you running, and do you have the ud pully or ewp yet?

Ud pully and ewp would net you more power, allow your engine to rev faster, and get better fuel economy. Nice add ons once you get all the big stuff done first.

BoostJunkieXL
06-28-2009, 09:24 PM
What exhaust are you running, and do you have the ud pully or ewp yet?

oops! I forgot to put the 1 7/8 Kooks and Y-pipe in the sig!


HOTROD98Z
06-28-2009, 09:54 PM
A4 or M6?

BoostJunkieXL
06-28-2009, 09:57 PM
A4 or M6?

Sorry....it's an M6

b-ron
06-29-2009, 06:03 PM
nice numbers

raysadude
06-30-2009, 12:23 PM
that's the number i'm shooting for, i have the exact same setup as yours except, my exhaust is slp 1 3/4 with true duals with x pipe, i made 405 rwhp, how much do you guys think UDP would net?

Nitroused383
06-30-2009, 07:37 PM
What compression ratio are you running? I have unported 243 heads that were milled to 62cc's 11:1 compression with GM MLS gaskets and a custom bre 224 cam. I don't have an underdrive pulley and I have that power robbing LS7 clutch but I make similar power to you. Your cam is much bigger and you have ported heads, I would be pretty disappointed if it is fully tuned. Do you have a before and after dyno to compare?

Arc00TA
06-30-2009, 07:48 PM
I agree with Nitroused383, my untouched, unmilled 243's seem to be making the same numbers with a much smaller cam. Maybe the LS6 intake is holding you back? Do you have stock TB and maf on there? Then again it looks like it was very hot when you did your runs, I can barely read it but looks like 108*?

raysadude
06-30-2009, 10:27 PM
What compression ratio are you running? I have unported 243 heads that were milled to 62cc's 11:1 compression with GM MLS gaskets and a custom bre 224 cam. I don't have an underdrive pulley and I have that power robbing LS7 clutch but I make similar power to you. Your cam is much bigger and you have ported heads, I would be pretty disappointed if it is fully tuned. Do you have a before and after dyno to compare?

wow your car makes that much power but you just run 13.4 no offense but WTF happened?

Abdullah
06-30-2009, 11:04 PM
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss180/BoostJunkieXL/DynoSheet.jpg

418hp/386tq? Any thoughts guys? Mods in sig. Thanks for any input

dyno numbers look good. with ported fast intake you would get around another 20rwhp.

Nitroused383
06-30-2009, 11:16 PM
wow your car makes that much power but you just run 13.4 no offense but WTF happened?

I ran that time when I was mostly stock, ls1 intake and headers with hp tuners. Spun alot as you can tell by my 60'. :hijack:

BigE_LS1
06-30-2009, 11:40 PM
Sounds about right for this time of year "its hot as hell" .

Pwebbz28
07-01-2009, 12:42 AM
Dyno numbers mean jack shit. Go to the track and see what it traps. Should be 92+ with those mods.

For what its worth i have just about the same setup you have cept my heads are home ported 5.3's and a F14 cam with duals. Mine made 445/400 and traps 94

Gh0st
07-01-2009, 08:58 AM
Pretty decent for what you got bro. Looks like its time to step up to a Vengeance Ported Fast 92 though.

What exhaust are you running, and do you have the ud pully or ewp yet?

Ud pully and ewp would net you more power, allow your engine to rev faster, and get better fuel economy. Nice add ons once you get all the big stuff done first.

Do you troll this forum and do nothing but plug your favorite shop of the week?

Yes, I know the irony of having Vengeance in my sig.

allngn_c5
07-01-2009, 09:40 AM
Do you troll this forum and do nothing but plug your favorite shop of the week?

Yes, I know the irony of having Vengeance in my sig.

Actually, I found time to F your mom too. Hey you asked. Have a nice day.:D Tell her she owes me 100 bucks too.

fastvet
07-01-2009, 09:59 AM
Actually, I found time to F your mom too. Hey you asked. Have a nice day.:D Tell her she owes me 100 bucks too.


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6LTRiceater
07-01-2009, 10:26 AM
Not bad numbers for not having a FAST.

Gh0st
07-01-2009, 12:21 PM
Actually, I found time to F your mom too. Hey you asked. Have a nice day.:D Tell her she owes me 100 bucks too.

I'll let every one know you like old fat women :D

IllusionalTA
07-01-2009, 06:05 PM
:pics:
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:chug: oh and the #'s are "ok".. Get a Intake on it and see how she picks up... i'm thiking 15 or so..

BoostJunkieXL
07-01-2009, 06:33 PM
allngn_c5 and those of you who gave me compliments....Thank you! The rest of you....thanks for fucking up my post! :upyours:

dre2013
07-01-2009, 06:43 PM
i was expecting a little more. do you have an UD pulley and ported tb? i never saw you answer the question. nice #'s overall, bet it runs like a beast

darooke
07-01-2009, 06:52 PM
Nice numbers and great power curve. Let us know how you do at the track.

BoostJunkieXL
07-01-2009, 07:05 PM
i was expecting a little more. do you have an UD pulley and ported tb? i never saw you answer the question. nice #'s overall, bet it runs like a beast

No UD pulley and no ported TB. It runs pretty good, but unfortunately the clutch let go saturday night.

Nice numbers and great power curve. Let us know how you do at the track.

Thanks!

Nitroused383
07-01-2009, 07:43 PM
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss180/BoostJunkieXL/DynoSheet.jpg

418hp/386tq? Any thoughts guys? Mods in sig. Thanks for any input

allngn_c5 and those of you who gave me compliments....Thank you! The rest of you....thanks for fucking up my post! :upyours:

Ignorance truely is bliss isn't it? You asked us what we thought. For a big cam stage 2.5 LS6 ported heads those numbers are piss poor at best. I would have expected 430+rwhp with that setup, but hey you can either look for problems or be happy with what you got. Whatever floats your boat I guess. Don't ask for it if you can't handle it.

BoostJunkieXL
07-01-2009, 08:01 PM
Do you troll this forum and do nothing but plug your favorite shop of the week?


This is what I was refering to, Nitroused383 . I'm sorry if offended you sir. I do welcome constructive criticism. I also know where the problem lies. Thanks

Nitroused383
07-01-2009, 08:14 PM
I wasn't trying to start anything, I just think there is alot left in that combo. If you look at it the car is still gaining power when the dyno run quit. Just make sure the basic stuff is in good shape; fuel filter, enough injector, plugs, wires, air filter. If you don't have an aftermarket lid look into that and port up your throttle body, its not hard at all. That alone should bump you up to 430 or so. I just hate to see people spend their hard earned money on a setup that doesn't perform like it should.

Could you post that graph in rpm by any chance? Make sure the afr is around 12.8-13 and timing is around 22-26 degrees with the 243 heads. I am sure you need bigger injectors too. Rev that thing out a little higher and I think you will be a lot happier.

BoostJunkieXL
07-01-2009, 08:36 PM
I wasn't trying to start anything, I just think there is alot left in that combo. If you look at it the car is still gaining power when the dyno run quit. Just make sure the basic stuff is in good shape; fuel filter, enough injector, plugs, wires, air filter. If you don't have an aftermarket lid look into that and port up your throttle body, its not hard at all. That alone should bump you up to 430 or so. I just hate to see people spend their hard earned money on a setup that doesn't perform like it should.

Could you post that graph in rpm by any chance? Make sure the afr is around 12.8-13 and timing is around 22-26 degrees with the 243 heads. I am sure you need bigger injectors too. Rev that thing out a little higher and I think you will be a lot happier.

I wasn't trying to start anything either man, my apologies! I basically went about my setup completely bass akwards. I started with the hardest part instead of the basic bolt-ons. Yes I do have an aftermarket lid (brand unknown), plugs, wires and fuel filter were replaced when heads/cam/intake/exhaust was done, and the K&N was clean. I know for a fact I need bigger injectors but not sure what size/brand to go with. I'm also looking into getting a ported MAF and TB. The guy that owned it before me apparently tried to port the TB himself....it looks like he took a chisel to it! And as far as posting up the dyno graph in RPM's....well there lies the rub....the guy that tuned it only gave me that one graph. And when I asked him questions about the tune, he couldn't exactly answer them. I'm not trying to bash him or anything but it seemed kind of odd. I will probably be getting it retuned VERY soon. Thanks for your input and suggestions! :D

PREDATOR-Z
07-02-2009, 10:28 AM
Those # are low, you should be in 440+rwhp range, 430 on a stingy dyno. And no it is not the intake :D
Did you do a baseline dyno run to find our how much you gained total?

lilbuddy1587
07-02-2009, 03:00 PM
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss180/BoostJunkieXL/DynoSheet.jpg

418hp/386tq? Any thoughts guys? Mods in sig. Thanks for any input

With the listed mods, your numbers are low. I'd expect 430+ WITHOUT a FAST intake. The LS6 intake is pretty damn good in itself.

chrs1313
07-02-2009, 04:12 PM
agreed numbers are very low i would be pissed if i had a m6 and those numbers...unless that dyno is stingy as hell...

chrs1313
07-02-2009, 04:16 PM
Sounds about right for this time of year "its hot as hell" .

why the hell do people post this in almost every dyno thread...dont they know what SAE means

BoostJunkieXL
07-02-2009, 05:56 PM
agreed numbers are very low i would be pissed if i had a m6 and those numbers

I know the clutch was slipping pretty bad. I picked the car up last friday and the clutch went out saturday night. I think the tune leaves a lot to be desired also. That and he told me the injectors were maxed out

chrs1313
07-02-2009, 10:37 PM
I know the clutch was slipping pretty bad. I picked the car up last friday and the clutch went out saturday night. I think the tune leaves a lot to be desired also. That and he told me the injectors were maxed out

yeah get the bugs worked out and redyno her...should be around 440+

lilbuddy1587
07-03-2009, 01:02 PM
why the hell do people post this in almost every dyno thread...dont they know what SAE means

SAE can only correct for so much. The hot air does play a factor in the numbers but not as much as people like to think (15-20+hp :eyes:)

yeah get the bugs worked out and redyno her...should be around 440+

Agreed

BoostJunkieXL
07-03-2009, 04:15 PM
Thanks guys! :burn:

Arc00TA
07-03-2009, 04:33 PM
Yah I was not trying to start some shit either, just saying you have a lot of room in that setup for more power. If your tuner was that sketchy, I would look into that first. When ryne tuned my car, it made 437rwhp on the first pull but was way too rich, once we dialed in the afr it settled at 420-ish. You should make 430+ pretty easily.

BoostJunkieXL
07-03-2009, 04:40 PM
I didn't take any offense to anything...I was just being a jackass. You guys really did help me though. Now I know what I need to correct to get her running right.

Shon Herron
07-04-2009, 07:48 AM
Pretty decent for what you got bro.

nice numbers

dyno numbers look good.

Really? 418 from a H/C package??

Here is a stock headed MS4 M6 F-body
(yes, the cam is slightly larger but stock 241 heads)
http://www.jrracingtuning.com/images/Kellen%20dyno.jpg

Then there is an OLD set up to compare to, 853 heads from TEA, 224 cam, 9", M6 F-body
http://www.jrracingtuning.com/images/BJ%20Z28%20dyno%20tune%20results.jpg

BoostJunkieXL
07-04-2009, 11:45 AM
Ok...so I know I need bigger injectors. Can anyone suggest a brand/size? I am injector ignorant!

lilbuddy1587
07-04-2009, 12:22 PM
Really? 418 from a H/C package??

Then there is an OLD set up to compare to, 853 heads from TEA, 224 cam, 9", M6 F-body
http://www.jrracingtuning.com/images/BJ%20Z28%20dyno%20tune%20results.jpg

Agreed.

I have to say, the 853 heads and 224 cam graph is AWESOME. That is a FAT power band and even better yet, I'll bet that was done with an LS6 intake, huh? :D

PREDATOR-Z
07-04-2009, 03:34 PM
Ok...so I know I need bigger injectors. Can anyone suggest a brand/size? I am injector ignorant!

Bosh SVO 42 lbs/hr, they are decently priced, although SVO 30lbs will work as well, but just in case you'll grow in the future, I would get the 42s straight away.

firefighter813x
07-04-2009, 04:16 PM
why the hell do people post this in almost every dyno thread...dont they know what SAE means

X2. When I first read your mod list I was expecting a A4 with a big converter. What was the problem again? I know you can't compare all setups because every car is different, but... Someone I just pm'd has Livernois stage II heads with stock sized valves and a 232/232 cam made 440 with the LS6 intake. BTW, TSP is usually pretty consistent. I've seen a lot of LS6 2.5 setups with their TV3, T2, 231/237 make around 430 consistently. Good luck brotha.

firefighter813x
07-04-2009, 04:21 PM
As mentioned by Doug, a ported Fast setup would help if funds allow. I don't blame him for mentioning Vengeance. There are a lot of combos with their intakes with stellar results as well as other sponsors. (TSP, Rapid Motorsports, Futral, Speed Inc, Vengeance, TR, etc) FYI, my 90/90 was ported by Thunder Racing. I haven't seen too many from them but we'll see how it turns out in a few days. Maybe that can help you make a decision if your willing to sell your LS6 intake and put that money towards the Fast.

Sorry for the long post! lol

BOOSTEDTA
07-04-2009, 10:16 PM
Agreed.

I have to say, the 853 heads and 224 cam graph is AWESOME. That is a FAT power band and even better yet, I'll bet that was done with an LS6 intake, huh? :D

Correct, LS6 intake. I tuned the car and it's one of the ones I've been most impressed with so far out of all the LS1's we've done! Especially considering this was thru a 9".

lilbuddy1587
07-05-2009, 09:57 PM
X2. When I first read your mod list I was expecting a A4 with a big converter. What was the problem again? I know you can't compare all setups because every car is different, but... Someone I just pm'd has Livernois stage II heads with stock sized valves and a 232/232 cam made 440 with the LS6 intake. BTW, TSP is usually pretty consistent. I've seen a lot of LS6 2.5 setups with their TV3, T2, 231/237 make around 430 consistently. Good luck brotha.

"stage" 2.5 LS6 heads and a mid sized cam like that making 430whp consistently is definitely not what I'd expect. I wouldn't call that "good" either. I mean, FFS BOOSTEDTA posted a graph of a car with TEA ported 853's and a small 224 cam making 440/411 with a BROAD power band. Aren't 243/799's supposed to be superior, especially a head with "stage" 2.5 "work"?

As mentioned by Doug, a ported Fast setup would help if funds allow. I don't blame him for mentioning Vengeance. There are a lot of combos with their intakes with stellar results as well as other sponsors. (TSP, Rapid Motorsports, Futral, Speed Inc, Vengeance, TR, etc) FYI, my 90/90 was ported by Thunder Racing. I haven't seen too many from them but we'll see how it turns out in a few days. Maybe that can help you make a decision if your willing to sell your LS6 intake and put that money towards the Fast.

Sorry for the long post! lol

A fast intake is not going to just magically unlock 30-40whp. There's something else wrong with his setup.

Correct, LS6 intake. I tuned the car and it's one of the ones I've been most impressed with so far out of all the LS1's we've done! Especially considering this was thru a 9".

That's awesome man. Thanks for sharing, that is a great curve.

OffspringZ28
07-08-2009, 03:19 PM
My numbers in sig are with stg 2.5 5.3 heads + TR224/224 @ 114. I think something is awry as well. Tuner is very reputable as my buddies c5zo6 put down 43X right after me with stock heads and a PatG cam. I will be pulling the cam down the road for a bigger one down the road.

lilbuddy1587
07-09-2009, 07:17 PM
My numbers in sig are with stg 2.5 5.3 heads + TR224/224 @ 114. I think something is awry as well. Tuner is very reputable as my buddies c5zo6 put down 43X right after me with stock heads and a PatG cam. I will be pulling the cam down the road for a bigger one down the road.

Just a hint, its not your cam. People make those numbers with just the TR224. Bigger is not always better.

OffspringZ28
07-09-2009, 07:22 PM
Just a hint, its not your cam. People make those numbers with just the TR224. Bigger is not always better.

I know it's not. I figure I want a bigger cam anyway and I would just replace the entire valvetrain and lifters (on the car when purchased)

Here is my graph btw - shortly after this pull my clutch let go and my plugs were shot so who knows

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/OffspringZ28/01_SS_headcam.jpg

Demon 383
07-09-2009, 08:17 PM
I have to agree, those are not exceptional #'s. Hopefully the FAST along with the rest of the nick nacks will round things out.

Cobra2WS6
07-10-2009, 12:21 AM
My car with stock 243 heads and a 233/239 cam made 430/405.. So i would think your numbers should be in the 430-440 range

lilbuddy1587
07-12-2009, 02:50 PM
My car with stock 243 heads and a 233/239 cam made 430/405.. So i would think your numbers should be in the 430-440 range

You get out of here, Cobra lover :punch: :jest:

Totally kidding but thats a sweet GT you picked up man :thumb: