nazztman4739

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does anyone have numbers for tsp stage 2.5 ls6 ls6 intake ms3 or 4 cam and 3000 stall on stock bottom end this is the setup i want to run just curious if anyone else is running this setup and what kind of numbers

and if using the ms4 did u have to flycut the stock pistons

nazztman4739

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if anyone has any info i will need it i just bought the heads undecided on the cam i want ms4 but dont want to cut the pistons im gonna rebuild in april so i just want simple now

Honda Nick

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I think you have to flycut with those heads and MS4.

transaman98

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why would u throw an ms4 in a car with that little of a stall? what gears are you running? Are you planning on running this cam with the 1.8 rockers you have in your sig? I dont know for sure but I wouldn't think that would be the best idea given the nature of that cam. However I am a bit of an amateur to this aswell, if I am wrong someone feel free to correct me.

Intercooler2

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Yea you will need to go back to 1.7's, 4000 stall and 4.10 or higher gears

StreetSilverado

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Like everyone else said, bad combo... you'll need at least a 3800+ stall and fly cut the pistons for the MS4. If you want to keep your stall look for like a TR220 cam etc. They make great power.

My old combo was a stock 346, Texas Speed 231/237 .598/.595 cam, stock LS6 heads, LS6 intake, Headers, 3.73 gears and ran mid 11's in the 1/4 and very high 10's on a 75 shot.

ZachsBlack94Z28

we put a ms4 in a stock bottom end ls1 and didnt have to fly cut but that was with the tsp stage 1 ls6 ported heads. sorry didnt see that you were wanting to run the 2.5's but the stage 1's made good numbers with the ms4 somewhere in the 430-440 range with a fast 92

nazztman4739

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i have stock everything as of now i just purchased the heads looking for a good combo for this base i know i have to revert back to 1.7 rockers no big deal i still have my stockers till i get another set of rollers so a 4000 stall would be best i think i will go with a ms3 so i dont have to flycut

transaman98

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I am finding out the hard way on stall size. I would say if you are wanting to run any of the larger cams ms3, ms4, tsunami, etc. you should probably go with at least a 3800+ stall.

Hamrdown

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Why dont you just call TSP. Tell them your whole combo so far and theyll give you an honest answer as to what cam would be best for your setup. Tell them the truth about what you have. Don't say that you have 3.73 gears if you only have 3.08 or your car will be lazy off the line. What I did when I called for my cam was tell them everything I had and that it was pretty much a full weight car and that I wanted the cam that would make my car go the fastest with my setup and that I didn't care about peak numbers. I don't plan on racing a dyno. haha

ZachsBlack94Z28

^^^ i totally agree TSP are good ppl

Jason 98 TA

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We have engine dyno data for those combos I can get you tomorrow morning. If your in the Texas area we can even spend some time on the engine dyno comparing cylinder head options for you. The best way to purchase a combo you'll be happy with is to research extensively. I personally prefer the LS6 heads with the stage 2.5 valve combo. That will require valve reliefs iwth the MS4 camshaft, but if you cut the pistons you can setup compression to help the larger camshaft really shine!

nazztman4739

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yeah i already ordered the heads from texas speed they seem to be on backorder but they are ordered my whole car is stock with the exception of the rockers wich im not opposed to ditching im going to 383 the engine in april but i just want to get her together to run for a couple monthes

HitmanLS1

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Good thread I was wanting to know the same thing.

nazztman4739

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this is my first ls based engine im learning alot but these guys have already been where im at so what better way to find info

BOBS99SS

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I was told that the 215s from tsp don't require any fly cutting and they have more clearence than stock ls1 heads,call texas speed they can match a set of heads with the ms4 that don't require flycutting ,the stage 1 ls6 heads from tsp will also work,I got this info from texas speed, always call and double check with tsp before you order but all this info is from them,

BOBS99SS

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You want a bigger stall for the ms4 ,I have a 6 speed car ,when I get my 12 bolt I will be running 4.30s or higher,the new torquer cam is a good cam ,sounds good to