SWEET98SS

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I am looking into the streetsweeper cam and also the Hellion Cam. I will have headers an a bbk intake or Fast intake when I do the cam. Let me know what you guys think of this cam. I have not heard the Hellion in too many LS1's, If you have any vids, can you post them. I have New Era performance about an hour away so I will be going there.

My goals are:
- over 400 rwhp, closer to 450rwhp
- Ok street manners, I want a big lope, I dont really care too much about driveability, I have always wanted something that sounds badaxx.
- dont want to replace springs every year or ever
- dont want to do heads, just the cam.


Hellion: 244/248 .630/.630 cam and is on a 112 LSA

Street sweeper Specs

Int Exh

Duration @ .050 228 232

Lift .612 .600

LSA : 111

BigKap94z

iTrader: (47)

New Era is great, good choice. My personal thoughts is that cam only the hellion is too large, especially for a driver. You will care about driveability when u get a large cam in a stick car without 4.10 or higher gears regardless of how good the tune is. That 228/232 111 should lope plenty hard to sound good, and still maintain decent driveability. The original streetsweeper is larger then you have listed and is as big as i would go, but i still wouldn't even consider that cam in a car without proper gearing, and supporting mods.

vettenuts

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There is also a smaller version, 220/224 on a 112 if I remember correctly. Contact Ed at FTI, he can guide you as he designed them. Then just buy from New Era. I have dealt with New Era in the past, they have treated me very well when I ran into problems (months after the purchase). That is a major thing in my book, i.e., they took care of their customer.

SWEET98SS

iTrader: (8)

Thaks guys, so basically either of the street sweeper cams should lope pretty good? Do I need different gears with this cam? I was going to try to hold off on the rear stuff until I blow it, that way I can put all my money into a 12 bolt.

allngn_c5

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Might I suggest the Allngn_c5 Cam 239/243 .623/.623 113+3 available exclusively from Vengeance Racing. Trademark pending LOL

SWEET98SS

iTrader: (8)

Any input on the vengeance cam, do you have any videos?

allngn_c5

iTrader: (3)

Go to the dyno section and watch the clips of drivability, idle and wot. Please keep in mind my car is a 402 though, not a 346.

Mike or Ron at Vengeance could explain the function of my cam in a 346 on the technical side better then I can. MIKE OR RON want to chime in?

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...s-results.html

chrs1313

iTrader: (24)

get a medium sized 230 cam and you will be happy...

the added benifit of the larger cams are not really seen unless you have the supporting mods...

vettenuts

iTrader: (4)

I think the two under consideration are too large as well. I would consider something smaller like the Streetsweeper I mentioned in my first post. We got just shy of 400 hp with that cam and my friend who owns the car has it on a trip right now and called me to inform me that he is getting 35 mpg with it as well. Best of both worlds.

Old SStroker

Those are very lofty goals for stock LS1 heads, SWEET. You will need a VERY happy dyno to get your numbers. Off-hand I don't know of one that happy.

If you don't get there, don't blame it on the cam.

Jon

SWEET98SS

iTrader: (8)

I dont think 400whp will be a problem, 450rwhp is pushing it.

allngn_c5

iTrader: (3)

Well, I guess you said what I was thinking. Great minds think alike.

A proven performer plus all boltons w/stock heads should be pretty easy to hit 420, but 450 is going to be a real stretch

Mike @ New Era

iTrader: (10)

Both of those cams work very well on LS1's. Believe it or not we always see more horsepower with the Streetsweeper than the Hellion on stock shortblocks, and something else to to note is that even though the hellion is bigger, it is actually easier to tune, cam specs on a cam card don't always show everything that creates horsepower and how it is going to be tuning. We just wrapped up a cam only install on a 02 vette this week with the streetsweeper with an LS6 intake cam-only on the stock heads that made 431 rwhp on our dyno. This cam always makes killer power in everything we put it in.

SWEET98SS

iTrader: (8)

Did the Vette also have headers? I pm shaun for a quote on the install.

Mike @ New Era

iTrader: (10)

Yes of course, it was full bolt ons, we would not install this cam without having headers on it. In fact it was American Racing 1 7/8 headers without cats to be exact.

allngn_c5

iTrader: (3)

Gotta love those 1 7/8 American Racing Headers !!!

Old SStroker

Stock LS1 heads, not LS6 heads on a 346, right, Doug?

Often there is a tad bit of difference beween those heads powerwise. OP has stock LS1 heads, right?

Perhaps your 346/stock LS! heads experience differs. Do you have your 346/LS1 heads dyno charts available?

Please post 'em for us.

Jon

studderin

iTrader: (28)

Ya, my friend matt from RIT is really happy with the car. A vid form yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j4tXq4P8Bc

I'm really happy with streetsweeper cam too.

SWEET98SS

iTrader: (8)

His car sounds great. so is trapping around 120 typical for this cam? Would mine trap that high if I got a decent 60ft?

Damian

iTrader: (89)

Go for the streetsweeper. I use a similar grind to that and it works well in the 346's I build.

240+ duration cams have no business being in a 346ci engine IMO.