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Old 07-08-2009, 10:14 PM
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I just installed headers into my ls1 and when i turn the ignition the motor turns over and then dies. I have no clue what could be going on here, any help? I'm uploading a clip right now

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Old 07-08-2009, 10:29 PM
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wtf was that???? sorry..

I am not sure what that is. Maybe the fly wheel in the starter got messed up?

All plugs and wires are hooked up?

car stick or auto?
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auto, and they're all plugged in as far as i can tell
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Originally Posted by OneSlowCamaro
auto, and they're all plugged in as far as i can tell
I know that #6 and #8 are hard to get too. Make sure they are plugged in. But i think even not plugged in the car would run.. But very shiity

What else did you take off during the install? Did you mess around at all with the starter?
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took off the oil stick, took off all the plug wires and spark plugs, two of the coils and i'm pretty sure thats it
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i also removed the egr and air systems.

also there is no oil pressure when I turn the key half way to the point where the fuel pump kicks on. I'm not positive but I'm think i remember there being oil pressure when the fuel pump turned on.

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oil pressure should only start to build once the motor is started and running for about 2-3 seconds. There will be no oil pressure if the key is just on accessory, the engine needs to be running to build oil pressure.

if it runs for a few seconds then dies, check all plugs, make sure you didn't crack any of them putting the headers on, all plug wires are on nice a tight(and connected to the correct plugs obviously) check the coils again also.
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Did you have your Crankshaft Position Sensor unplugged? The CKPS is located on the passenger side of the block, just above the starter. I'm not 100% sure this is the problem. I'm not quite sure why it would fire just for a second, then die. I would check to be sure its plugged in nice and snug. Without the CKPS, the motor will just turnover, but never fire. I know I had mine disconnected when I did my headers, so it'd be worth a look. You could also check your oil level sensor on the same side on the outside of the oil pan. Again, check to be sure its plugged in good. I believe without it, the PCM can't read if there is any oil and would kill the engine. (Thats kinda a guess, but still worth looking at.) Good luck and keep us posted on what you find out.

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^I just checked and both of those are plugged in. All the spark plugs and wires are also in nice and tight.
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i don't have my egr blocked off yet, is that possibly the problem?

edit: yup. I feel stupid now, but thats how we learn. Thanks for all you're help

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Sweet. No better feeling than a problem solved.

Now its time to post up some videos of the new pipes.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEjbdq8skyA

still have some kinks to work out. Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by OneSlowCamaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEjbdq8skyA

still have some kinks to work out. Any ideas?
whats wrong with it now? You runing open headers? Sounds like you have a cam in the car...
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Originally Posted by OneSlowCamaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEjbdq8skyA

still have some kinks to work out. Any ideas?
Thats gotta be open headers, right? That ******'s loud.
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it is open headers, ypipe isn't here yet. And no, there is no cam in it, thats the problem. Pretty sure it shouldn't behave like that without a cam.
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you cant drive it with open headers you will **** the O2s up.
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how would that mess the o2's up? still the same exhaust going by em
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it can mess them because they are much closer to the outside cooler air when you are running straight headers. I would at least put some turn downs on them if you plan on driving straight headers for very long
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well i'm cancelling my ypipe order tomorrow and taking it to a shop to have them connect the headers to the rest of the exhaust. So it won't be open headers for long
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Originally Posted by OneSlowCamaro
well i'm cancelling my ypipe order tomorrow and taking it to a shop to have them connect the headers to the rest of the exhaust. So it won't be open headers for long
Order yourself a Flowmaster Merge to have the exhaust shop weld into your Y-pipe. It's supposed to save on rasp and better better flowing than just slamming the two pipes together. Good luck.



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