Gen 5 Camaro Internal Engine Tech - 2010 V6 Camaro vs LS1 camaro

So do you guys think the new V6 camaro will run close to the numbers of the old LS1 cars in the 1/4 mile. The new V6 has 304 HP, and the LS1 i think was around 320....sounds pretty close...anyone run one of the new v6's at the track?

Just thought I would spark a debate :D

No, the V8 5th gens are running near what the stock LS1s did, in good air they may go a bit faster. Your not taking in to acount the weight difference between the 4th gen and 5th gen.

V6 is actually putting out around 260 or so to the wheels. Torque is what makes up for the whole thing.

Many races are decided within the first 60' and if you are near the same peak output as your opponent, both equally capable drivers and you are lacking the torque that they may have, you're pretty much getting a good view of their taillights.

I thought the same when i heard the numbers months ago, more like the V8 mustang loosing against a new V6 camaro, lol.

So do you guys think the new V6 camaro will run close to the numbers of the old LS1 cars in the 1/4 mile. The new V6 has 304 HP, and the LS1 i think was around 320....sounds pretty close...anyone run one of the new v6's at the track?

Just thought I would spark a debate :D

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LS1 Fbodies made 345hp/375ft.lbs in a ~3500lbs car, the new Camaro has 304hp/273ft.lbs in a 3800lbs car, you can do the math...

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LS1 Fbodies made 345hp/375ft.lbs in a ~3500lbs car, the new Camaro has 304hp/273ft.lbs in a 3800lbs car, you can do the math...

Thank you for adding some reality to this thread.

It is more likely that the new V6 Camaro and a stock LT1 f-body would run close but I still might give the edge to the LT1.

Just ran my g/f's 2010 Camaro V6 and it went 14.9@94mph with a 2.2 60ft. IIRC it was finishing the 1/4mile in (mid)3rd gear and pulling pretty hard. On the way back we raced a 96 Mustang GT and an 01 GT, both races we pulled ahead a few cars; the 01 GT was harder to shake off though.

No way this heavy V6 will pull on an LT1 much less an LS1; maybe with a CAI and some tuning it can hang with LT1's.

Just ran my g/f's 2010 Camaro V6 and it went 14.9@94mph with a 2.2 60ft. IIRC it was finishing the 1/4mile in (mid)3rd gear and pulling pretty hard. On the way back we raced a 96 Mustang GT and an 01 GT, both races we pulled ahead a few cars; the 01 GT was harder to shake off though.

No way this heavy V6 will pull on an LT1 much less an LS1; maybe with a CAI and some tuning it can hang with LT1's.

A car trapping 94 MPH pulled a few cars on a 2001 Mustang GT. Right.

It was a stock GT with 3 200lbs passengers LOL!!!! Yes I know doesnt make sense, I thought he'd put at least 2 cars on me but IDK. Could have been a bad driver, it was a 5-speed and had some gangsta 20's on there.

We have a shitty track in clarksville TN and last friday my buddy took his rental up there and with about 200miles on it went 9.7. not sure the mph since its a shitty track.. but to give ya an idea of how it does our other buddy was there and has an 03 mustang GT, headers/intake and the camaro walked away from him on the track and the street. From a roll or a dig the GT stayed with it till about the top of 2nd then the camaro would pull away...

To give you an idea of how shitty the track is our rental LS3 C6 would only run a best of 7.8...

Just ran my g/f's 2010 Camaro V6 and it went 14.9@94mph with a 2.2 60ft. IIRC it was finishing the 1/4mile in (mid)3rd gear and pulling pretty hard. On the way back we raced a 96 Mustang GT and an 01 GT, both races we pulled ahead a few cars; the 01 GT was harder to shake off though.

No way this heavy V6 will pull on an LT1 much less an LS1; maybe with a CAI and some tuning it can hang with LT1's.

Thanks, that is what I was wanting to know...what kind of times they were running....14.9 is about what my 2000 silverado pickup ran stock!!...haha

just as a comparison, back in the day, my '94 Z28 ran a 14.1@96 bone stock and 13.9@99 with an intake and catback, with a 3.23 auto, rated at 275/325... and LS1's made 305-310/335-340 in an F body...

Thanks, that is what I was wanting to know...what kind of times they were running....14.9 is about what my 2000 silverado pickup ran stock!!...haha

You didn't think to check some auto mags? I've seen lowest of 14.2 @ ~98mph.

Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.

So do you guys think the new V6 camaro will run close to the numbers of the old LS1 cars in the 1/4 mile. The new V6 has 304 HP, and the LS1 i think was around 320....sounds pretty close...anyone run one of the new v6's at the track?

Just thought I would spark a debate :D

Are you forreal?

I can't wait to see what the aftermarket for this car is like...plenty major companies are really interested in modding the V6. It without a doubt will be a big seller and plenty of people will want to mod it.

Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.

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Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.
hahaha That's all f***** up... but true.. I'm impressed with the 2SS in a rolling race and they are decent in a slalom.. But they don't have power to weight ratio for a drag. Gut it out and push the LS3 to 600+rwhp and then it will hand more than a few of us our asses in the quarter. I'm wondering if it's IRS suspension might be hurting the 2SS drag performance.
A 2SS WILL get an ugly guy laid though....

Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.

Just remember kids, real car enthusiasts enjoy cars that perform well and retain respect towards trends that may not be in their personal tastes, ricer shit aside.

You're a tool.

Edit: besides, you should probably bring more than just a c5 on juice if you're going to start the shit talking.

The new Camaro is a the new LED SLED!

Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.

Thats an asshole comment.

What if somebody can't afford an SS? What if its all they can squeeze? What if they are just a huge Camaro fan and see no reason to have the SS? What if they travel often and want the 29mpg's of the V6?

Everybody has their own thing. Grow up and respect it.

Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.

+1 or the wife didn't aprove. Sorry guys why would you buy a v6 Camaro or a Mustang unless your a chick, ghey or your significant other said no.

Possibly because some people enjoy the fact that you don't have to jump on the v8 bandwagon to kick ass.

The v6 camaro is going to shock a lot of people. With bolt ons watch your asses.

To give you an idea of how shitty the track is our rental LS3 C6 would only run a best of 7.8...


thats really not that bad at all

The 304hp and 320hp are flywheel hp ratings. The LS1 was underated from the factory. A stock LS1 dynos anywhere from 300-315 that equates to alot more than it was rated. Also not to mention like others said the new Camaro is heavier than a 4th gen

Earlier in the thread some posted a V6 might hang with an LT1 car. Hows this for some shit. Saturday my buddy with his 95 M6 Z28 ran a 13.64. The car has a CAI and a hand held programmer. It also has 200k miles...

Those new V6 Camaros are a dime a dozen by now...Why doesn't someone pony up and do a comparison vid?!?!?

+1 or the wife didn't aprove. Sorry guys why would you buy a v6 Camaro or a Mustang unless your a chick, ghey or your significant other said no.

i would get a v6 to drive around, with wheels and such.
i alredy own a 500rw n/a 4th gen and a 10 sec. n/a iroc that is going turbo, so im not lacking in hp dept.
those dam 5th gens look good with wheels and gfx., im waiting for them to drop to cash prices:D

Hot Rod ran a 14 flat in a new V6, this thing is a good race for LT1s and PI 2V GTs. Honestly who cares about the V6, if you're on this website your a car enthusiast and if you buy a V6 "pony/muscle" car you're probably gay.

The majority of sales and the model that is feeding GM the cash to make SS Camaros are gay?? So majority of plp buying camaro are gay?? wow, this is retarded:gtfo:

The V6 Camaro is a heck of a deal for price/look/performance. By the way it handles better and brake as good as the SS because its lighter. Be prepare to see some boltons/tune/CAI/or other light mods V6 Camaro kick serious ass.

I would be very interested in buying a V6 Camaro, put some mods in it plus a 150shot to spank your C5. Be aware that those V6 responds well to mods, but theyre not close to LS3 performance!!

And no the V6 wont be anywhere close to LS1 fbody in stock form to OP.

You didn't think to check some auto mags? I've seen lowest of 14.2 @ ~98mph.

I wasnt aware of that!!!

My stock '97 Formula with automatic and stock 2.73 gears ran 14.5 on 26 x 8.5 slicks in the middle of a hot Florida summer. Probably could have gone 14.2 in cooler weather. I'd say the new V-6 would run with it. Although I still think paying $35,000 + for a V-8 model is riduculous, let alone that much for a V-6 version!

+1 or the wife didn't aprove. Sorry guys why would you buy a v6 Camaro or a Mustang unless your a chick, ghey or your significant other said no.

May becuse some people like to be different and not one of 1,000,000,000 others with a modded LS1 or LS3.


When you go to the track and see all the modded LS1s running the same times they always do its like...cool....seen it before 1,000,000 times. But when that little turbo 3.8 comes up running a kickass time beating most LS1s now that is something badass to watch....:chug: The 3.6L will do the exact same...its called being different and not doing the same as everyone else. Not saying I hate V8s because I sure as hell would love one but its also fun to be different.

You have a point, but the majority of plp will not like to invest in cars like ls1tech members. So they want best of both worlds; the look of it, nice MPG, lower price and good performance.

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LS1 Fbodies made 345hp/375ft.lbs in a ~3500lbs car, the new Camaro has 304hp/273ft.lbs in a 3800lbs car, you can do the math...

no they did not the z28 made 305 and the ss made 315.

no they did not the z28 made 305 and the ss made 315.

I hope you are joking...

I would be very interested in buying a V6 Camaro, put some mods in it plus a 150shot to spank your C5. Be aware that those V6 responds well to mods, but theyre not close to LS3 performance!!


May becuse some people like to be different and not one of 1,000,000,000 others with a modded LS1 or LS3.

When you go to the track and see all the modded LS1s running the same times they always do its like...cool....seen it before 1,000,000 times. But when that little turbo 3.8 comes up running a kickass time beating most LS1s now that is something badass to watch....:chug: The 3.6L will do the exact same...its called being different and not doing the same as everyone else. Not saying I hate V8s because I sure as hell would love one but its also fun to be different.
While it was an asshole remark this "well if I do this and this to the car it might be faster than yours" isn't helping your arguments any. Yippie, you dump more money into the car and come out with no warranty just to be "different" when you could have spent less on the SS and been faster still. The new V6 Camaro is a very nice car, much better than the previous V6 Fbodies which were very disappointing IMO (not just because of the engine, but the suspension and brakes were very lacking). But dumping a bunch of money into it to just barley beat the V8 counterpart is nothing to brag about...

no they did not the z28 made 305 and the ss made 315.

At the rear wheels maybe. Not trying to be smart here but, Dude, seriously, look at the overwhelming evidence provided in the chassis dyno charts. Its VERY common knowledge that the Fbody's were very underrated.

While it was an asshole remark this "well if I do this and this to the car it might be faster than yours" isn't helping your arguments any. Yippie, you dump more money into the car and come out with no warranty just to be "different" when you could have spent less on the SS and been faster still. The new V6 Camaro is a very nice car, much better than the previous V6 Fbodies which were very disappointing IMO (not just because of the engine, but the suspension and brakes were very lacking). But dumping a bunch of money into it to just barley beat the V8 counterpart is nothing to brag about...

For me, investing a lot in modding a V6 version(unless you really really want to be different) is a waste of money(even if I said otherwise, but I would do boltons on everyone of my cars!) because you should have went with the bigger version to start with better baseline.
Yeah dumping money argument isnt the better, but we have to admit that this V6 version is not bad at all and a lot of plp will be alright with it.

i am just going by what it says in the back of the manual for my car now if it underrated then thats bad ass.

Just ran my g/f's 2010 Camaro V6 and it went 14.9@94mph with a 2.2 60ft. IIRC it was finishing the 1/4mile in (mid)3rd gear and pulling pretty hard. On the way back we raced a 96 Mustang GT and an 01 GT, both races we pulled ahead a few cars; the 01 GT was harder to shake off though.

No way this heavy V6 will pull on an LT1 much less an LS1; maybe with a CAI and some tuning it can hang with LT1's.

Is the Camaro an auto?

I heard that people in m6 V6 camaros are running low 14's without to much a problem. Have not saw one run yet though.

My stock '97 Formula with automatic and stock 2.73 gears ran 14.5 on 26 x 8.5 slicks in the middle of a hot Florida summer. Probably could have gone 14.2 in cooler weather. I'd say the new V-6 would run with it. Although I still think paying $35,000 + for a V-8 model is riduculous, let alone that much for a V-6 version!

Im suprised you used slicks with stock 2:73 gears. It probably slowed you down.I have owned 6 LT1 cars and the slowest one in stock form ran a 14.2. It was a 94 Formula with 2:73's. Never owned a 2:73 car that needed slicks.

I had a 1997 TA automatic with 2:73's run a 13.7. The only modification was a muffler wich netted no power. I was running Cheap futua tires lol. It didnt spin a tire with those 2:73's.

So do you guys think the new V6 camaro will run close to the numbers of the old LS1 cars in the 1/4 mile. The new V6 has 304 HP, and the LS1 i think was around 320....sounds pretty close...anyone run one of the new v6's at the track?

Just thought I would spark a debate :D

No debate to have. I have owned 2 LS1 cars and the slow one ran a 13.5@105. The faster of the 2 ran consistant 13.1-13.2@109. M6 ta. I doubt youll see any v6 Camaros in stock form running those times.

I do think that with a good driver and a set of sticky tires we may see some stock V6's out there running 13's.

Earlier in the thread some posted a V6 might hang with an LT1 car. Hows this for some shit. Saturday my buddy with his 95 M6 Z28 ran a 13.64. The car has a CAI and a hand held programmer. It also has 200k miles...

I had a 1995 Z28 with 200k plus miles. With gears,shorty headers and a CAI It ran a 12.8@105

It ran a 13.8 stock.

Had a 97 ta auto run a 13.7 stock.

a 95 Z28 auto run a 13.9. stock

LT1's dont get any respect for some reason :(

It seems like some people love to hate them.

but on the same not I had a94 formula, Bone stock, that bested a 14.2. A new v6 Camaro would have ran with it (m6 v6)

LT1's are also getting tired. They are becoming yard ornaments and the pride of local trailer parks. Sadly.

A minor bolt-on LS1 will eat a new SS let alone a new V6. LOL

You must be one hell of a driver...

I have driven a new 2010 V6 RS Camaro and it does not pull even close to hard as a LS1 car, but it still gets up and goes.

Thats an asshole comment.

What if somebody can't afford an SS? What if its all they can squeeze? What if they are just a huge Camaro fan and see no reason to have the SS? What if they travel often and want the 29mpg's of the V6?

Everybody has their own thing. Grow up and respect it.

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First of all this is a tech site so If anyone is going to talk shit about any car or engine they ought to have a better reason than "It's gay."

This whole "If it ain't got 8 cylinders it isn't a muscle car" philosophy is a bunch of bullshit. Yes the v8 cars have an advantage but a car is ultimately what you make it. As one who got started with a supercharged v6 mustangs in my teens (couldn't afford the down payment or insurance for a v8 car) I can personally attest to this. This site and the Grand National forums have seen some very bad ass 3.8 builds which would spank the majority of the cars on this site (Including mine I will admit).

This thread died a year and a half ago. Pay attention when making posts on thread while searching or multiple pages back in a forum that doesn't get a lot of attention.

I didn't know it was against forum policy to bring up an old thread.

I didn't know it was against forum policy to bring up an old thread.

Necroposting. It is often overlooked for a thread with useful info or new updates. However posts like the one that brought this one back and a pretty useless thread to begin with, no reason to bring it back.
With threads like these there can only be so many useful and intelligent posts, after that it usually starts to stray from topic and people just stirring.

With threads like these there can only be so many useful and intelligent posts, after that it usually starts to stray from topic and people just stirring.
Oh you mean like you're doing? Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black.

Oh you mean like you're doing? Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black.

You aren't the brightest one around, are you?

Rhetorical question by the way.;)

You're crying about someone bring up an old thread and that makes me dumb? Wow you really are an idiot!

You're correcting someone for bringing up an old thread and that makes me dumb. Wow, I really am an idiot!

:chug:

Necroposting.

:lol: Oh wait, your serious, let me laugh harder. :rotflmao:

I've resurrected and have seen others resurrect plenty of threads on this forum and others and not once have I ever heard anything against it.

lemons last I checked you're not a mod, if the mods don't like it they will make it known.

:lol: Oh wait, your serious, let me laugh harder. :rotflmao:

I've resurrected and have seen others resurrect plenty of threads on this forum and others and not once have I ever heard anything against it.

lemons last I checked you're not a mod, if the mods don't like it they will make it known.
Why don't you pay attention and stick around a little longer before you try this.
I have seen more than enough threads locked, some deleted completely, after been brought back after a couple years of inactivity, like i said thread material is taken into consideration.

Im not a mod, not even close. They have a hard enough time trying to spread forum rules and enforcing them, which FYI necroposting is one of them, no reason to work against them.
I didn't say this needed to be closed down or anything of the sort. The poster that resurrected it was new so I figured I would tell him that he should pay attention to dates while posting.
Thanks for playing.:cheers: