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turboed2000
07-22-2009, 12:26 AM
I have a 2SS stick shift with 700 miles on it. I broke the right axle at the out tripod. Not sure what happened, there wasn't any wheel hope and it was at the top of 2nd when it let loose.

rayhawk
07-22-2009, 09:40 AM
You are not the only one, there is 1 or 2 other reports of the same issue on Camaro5. What do you mean at the outer tripod? Is that a code word for the spline, because somebody else called it that too. :confused: Do you have any pics by any chance?

turboed2000
07-22-2009, 10:08 AM
The tripod is the cv joint part of the axle. I will post some pics today when I get it back.

rayhawk
07-22-2009, 12:10 PM
OK, I see now, I found some pictures of a tripod, it is a different style cv joint than I am used to, didn't know the name. Does the camaro use a typical cv joint with 6 balls and raceways or does it use the tripod joint? I think the tripod may be more for fwd or 4wd applications where more articulation is required.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
07-22-2009, 03:36 PM
I have a 2SS stick shift with 700 miles on it. I broke the right axle at the out tripod. Not sure what happened, there wasn't any wheel hope and it was at the top of 2nd when it let loose.

What is your driving style?

What tires do you have on the car? Stock summers or the all seasons?

obZidian
07-22-2009, 07:54 PM
Well, I did hear from a corvette tech that he had a camaro come in with a sheared off driveshaft... apparently the owner was ripping up on the car and dumped it at around 5500rpms!

turboed2000
07-22-2009, 10:23 PM
Actually my wife was driving. It had the stock 20" tires on it. I ordered the Hendrix Engineering drive shaft and axle package. That should solve the problem.

Hendrix-Engineering
07-23-2009, 09:24 PM
Were sorry to hear about that,we got one on the way to you that wont break:)...Guys we have 3 sets left at the introductory price of $1599 save now.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
07-23-2009, 11:37 PM
damn i have more accounts collectable out there than that. if only i could collect on them :(

What do they run usually? Fits G8?

rayhawk
07-24-2009, 09:02 AM
Do you have any pics of the broken part?

JonatRLMS
07-24-2009, 09:23 AM
this the second time ive heard this.....

Hendrix-Engineering
07-25-2009, 09:28 AM
damn i have more accounts collectable out there than that. if only i could collect on them :(

What do they run usually? Fits G8?

The g8 is a lil different,but we have those as well.$1999 is wd

turboed2000
07-28-2009, 11:59 PM
I dont know how to post the pics.

brad8266
07-29-2009, 02:08 PM
Chill out guys.

427C5, if youre in this thread just to stir up something please knock it off. Your initial comments werent bad but soon after that things got out of hand.

Xsta Z 28
07-29-2009, 03:09 PM
To: 427C5, ss1129, Chadder & BlackScreamingMachine,

All of your non topic posts have been deleted. All of you behaved poorly, and said inappropriate things to each other. Shape up or you all get time outs. I'm not baby sitting . . . .

:judge:

Now, lets keep the post on subject.

BlackScreaminMachine
07-29-2009, 03:33 PM
On the subject, I want to see a pic, when avalible. It was asked in one of the deleted post. So when one comes up, let me know.

badjuju342
07-29-2009, 04:58 PM
To: 427C5, ss1129, Chadder & BlackScreamingMachine,

All of your non topic posts have been deleted. All of you behaved poorly, and said inappropriate things to each other. Shape up or you all get time outs. I'm not baby sitting . . . .

:judge:

Now, lets keep the post on subject.
And I will back up everything he just said.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
07-29-2009, 05:00 PM
I dont know how to post the pics.

When you are making your post click on Advanced.

Then look down and click on Manage Attachments.

Then click on one of the Browse buttons. Find the file on your computer and then double click on it.

Then click on Upload.


After all of that when you click on Submit Reply the picture should be attached.
The picture won't attach if it is too big. In that case we can help you resize it or you can take the picture again on a lower quality setting from your digital camera...

Hope that was helpful.

1slols3
07-29-2009, 06:09 PM
warranty it.

ss1129
07-29-2009, 08:17 PM
Whats the purpose of the passenger side axle being bigger than the driver side...besides they dont want it to break. Is it under more stress?

427C5
07-29-2009, 08:24 PM
Whats the purpose of the passenger side axle being bigger than the driver side...besides they dont want it to break. Is it under more stress?
Don't remember the exact details, but something about harmonics.
GM engineers figured out that if they ran 2 different diameters, a failure was less likely.
I THINK they first implemented it with the CTS-V and then as original equipment for the ZR1.
Other carmakers pull all kinds of torque-mitigating tricks to eliminate axle tramp, but GM's performance division got to the root of the problem. Besides using a cast-iron diff casing, upsizing the propshaft, and reducing driveline lash with CV joints, GM also found a way to defeat the phenomenon itself. A slipping wheel will wind up its half shaft until the wheel hooks up, at which point it sends that force back through the shaft to the opposite side, setting up a spring-like effect through the axle. GM unbalanced the half shafts (the left side's diameter is 55 mm, the right side's is 35 mm) to decouple the forces and eliminate the spring effect. The result is a car that launches like the space shuttle. Power has nowhere to go but down to the ground.
To further mitigate power hop, Chevy has also fitted the ZR1 with axle half-shafts of different diameters (33mm on the right and 40mm on the left).
The rear axle also is stronger in the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and features asymmetrical axle-shaft diameters that were developed after careful testing to provide optimal torque management. The axles are also mounted on a more horizontal plane that correlates with the wider width of the rear wheels and tires.

ss1129
07-29-2009, 08:32 PM
GM engineers figured out that if they ran 2 different diameters, a failure was less likely

Glad to see its working. LOL.

ULTIMATEORANGESS
07-29-2009, 08:48 PM
I have a 2SS stick shift with 700 miles on it. I broke the right axle at the out tripod. Not sure what happened, there wasn't any wheel hope and it was at the top of 2nd when it let loose.


is this right? you have a H/C nitrous setup on your new camaro? could be why youre breaking stuff.

turboed2000
07-29-2009, 10:47 PM
Thanks for the info on how to post pics. I will post some as soon as we put it on the lift to pull it apart. I spend more time modding my cars than messing on the computer.

As fare as the Last comment It is heads cam nitrous but all of my other cars make alot more power and didnt break in 700 miles with my wife driving. Chevy has always used weak drivetrain. My Cobra made 780 rwhp and isnt the lightest car on earth and the irs managed to live for 2 years. Its not a big deal found a better part and will fix it when they show up.

Hendrix-Engineering
08-06-2009, 09:23 AM
Thanks for the info on how to post pics. I will post some as soon as we put it on the lift to pull it apart. I spend more time modding my cars than messing on the computer.

As fare as the Last comment It is heads cam nitrous but all of my other cars make alot more power and didnt break in 700 miles with my wife driving. Chevy has always used weak drivetrain. My Cobra made 780 rwhp and isnt the lightest car on earth and the irs managed to live for 2 years. Its not a big deal found a better part and will fix it when they show up.

Any updates:drive:

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
08-06-2009, 03:38 PM
Any updates:drive:

+1 Determining modes of failure gets me all excited. :drive:

turboed2000
08-09-2009, 06:58 PM
Here are some pics of the broken parts and the new stuff that looks awsome.

rayhawk
08-09-2009, 10:17 PM
Interesting, it looks like the cv joint itself is the weakest link. The aftermarket setup looks to be bigger all around, I guess you wont be having any more problems in that area. Thanks for posting the pics.

rich Z
08-10-2009, 12:26 AM
Sounds like GM rears still SUCK.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
08-10-2009, 03:13 PM
That aftermarket axle set looks to be one sweet piece. :)

Hendrix-Engineering
08-14-2009, 12:33 PM
That aftermarket axle set looks to be one sweet piece. :)

Thank you!

Hendrix-Engineering
09-01-2009, 08:55 AM
Interesting, it looks like the cv joint itself is the weakest link. The aftermarket setup looks to be bigger all around, I guess you wont be having any more problems in that area. Thanks for posting the pics.

Yes ,every aspect is redesighned and built to handle 1000 hp,if we can help feel free to give us a call.

Hendrix-Engineering
09-06-2009, 10:47 PM
axles in stock ready to ship

mrhzk35404
09-06-2009, 11:16 PM
A little off topic but it looks like GM failed again. How can they produce a performance car with parts that can't hold up.

Sam88Gta1
09-06-2009, 11:19 PM
A little off topic but it looks like GM failed again. How can they produce a performance car with parts that can't hold up.

Some cars are holding up just fine. OrangeChevyII has been in the sub 1.6 60's for 15+ passes without a problem. That car has made 40+ passes with drag radials on it.

CranMaro99
09-08-2009, 05:15 AM
GM engineers figured out that if they ran 2 different diameters, a failure was less likely

Glad to see its working. LOL.

Haha, on cars with not even 1k on the odometer.

Hendrix-Engineering
09-08-2009, 09:41 AM
Some cars are holding up just fine. OrangeChevyII has been in the sub 1.6 60's for 15+ passes without a problem. That car has made 40+ passes with drag radials on it.

Auto?

Gforce Engineering
09-08-2009, 05:33 PM
We'll have our race half shafts out soon as well.

We shooting to debut them at the LSx Shootout.

Thanks
Chris

Sam88Gta1
09-08-2009, 07:00 PM
Auto?

M6 car.
It chirps the 315 30 18 MT dragradials on the 1-2 ,2-3 and 3-4 shifts. I am not in any way saying they are built to handle this kind of force applied to them but they are working out great so far. After the cam and standalone fuel cell were added this week the car shouldnt have a problem running 10.5's @ 135 ish this weekend on the same 150 pills.

Hendrix-Engineering
09-19-2009, 10:19 AM
M6 car.
It chirps the 315 30 18 MT dragradials on the 1-2 ,2-3 and 3-4 shifts. I am not in any way saying they are built to handle this kind of force applied to them but they are working out great so far. After the cam and standalone fuel cell were added this week the car shouldnt have a problem running 10.5's @ 135 ish this weekend on the same 150 pills.

Sounds like a hell of a car!Ill keep my fingers crossed for ya,LOL..If you need us give us a call we have a special lsx shoot out price on our pro level axles!

jamnut
09-19-2009, 02:24 PM
My Hendrix Axles are going to be installed on Monday, will be testing them out on Wed @ the track with 315-35-18 DR's, I will also have a big rear sway bar & BMR trailing arms. I'm going to see how hard I can come outta the hole with this setup and see what the wheel hop is like with the big sway bar & new trailing arms. It would be nice if it was like my 4th gen & I could just do a 6k dump and have it hook. ;)

Jimmy P
09-19-2009, 03:59 PM
Why wouldn't the guys braking them just get them repaired under warranty?

jamnut
09-19-2009, 04:47 PM
I believe in preventative maintenance, I have 7 days of cruising and racing coming up & right after that I have the shootout. I don't want to be sidelined my first day of racing due to not hardening up my axles. That's why 1 of my 4th gens has a12 bolt, the other one has an S60 & my elcamino has a 9". The stock beefed up rear in my regal should be good deep into the 9's. Also the drivetrain warranty on my 5th gen is already blown.

svtgeoff
09-20-2009, 04:07 PM
post track times...

malekmb
09-22-2009, 10:38 PM
Bring it back too the "old school" axles

For having 700hp on a stock rear end you didn't do any work to it?