Need silicone or rubber Coupler/Reducer
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Need silicone or rubber Coupler/Reducer
I am running a Spectacle Solutions lid on my '01 Camaro SS with a Vortech kit. I just purchased an 85mm Z06 MAF from a local club member. To get the new MAF hooked up to the lid, I need a reducer that goes from 3.75" ID to 3.50" ID and is FIVE inches long.
I have found this exact reducer, except it is only 3" long. I have visited a number of stores, websites, and made nearly a dozen phone calls. It seems that couplers and reducers have a standard length of 3" - I didn't know, I've just worked with kits as delivered from the mfg. on my cars.
I called one well-known purveyor of couplers and they do ZERO custom sizes.
Anyway, here is a picture of the coupler that I need, but in 5" length. If anyone can steer me towards a shop or mfg. that can provide it, I would greatly appreciate it. I am more than ready to hook up the new MAF and hit the dyno to put the new MAF tables in the PCM and see what happens.
I have found this exact reducer, except it is only 3" long. I have visited a number of stores, websites, and made nearly a dozen phone calls. It seems that couplers and reducers have a standard length of 3" - I didn't know, I've just worked with kits as delivered from the mfg. on my cars.
I called one well-known purveyor of couplers and they do ZERO custom sizes.
Anyway, here is a picture of the coupler that I need, but in 5" length. If anyone can steer me towards a shop or mfg. that can provide it, I would greatly appreciate it. I am more than ready to hook up the new MAF and hit the dyno to put the new MAF tables in the PCM and see what happens.
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Hey Todd...I was thinking maybe you could utilize one of those couplers to get two silicone hoses to connect together. Might be ugly with all the additional clamps, but might work.
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Of course, O'Reilly doesn't have the 3.75" in stock. I'll order it soon if I can't get a real reducer.
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Maybe you should just ditch the MAF with all the problems you've been having with it lately.
I know I'm no help at all.
I think a reducer a straight 3.5 coupler with an aluminum joiner, or like you said if you can use the 3.75" over a short piece of 3.5" on the lid would be your best bet.
I know I'm no help at all.
I think a reducer a straight 3.5 coupler with an aluminum joiner, or like you said if you can use the 3.75" over a short piece of 3.5" on the lid would be your best bet.
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Usually, ... no.
Yeah, it's going in that direction. I ordered the 3.75" stuff from O'Reilly. Should be here Saturday. However, if I can find a proper coupler/reducer, I'll get that too. You know how particular I am.
you can use the 3.75" over a short piece of 3.5" on the lid
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There is a place I have saved that does custom lengths, but it takes them a little time to make them and they are also a little more expensive so if you want to I can give you the info when I get home or you can just keep going in the direction you are going I am with Aster ditch the MAF but that is just me I love my SD tuning. That MAF won't gain you anything as you will still max it out and have to lie to the PCM. But good luck I am not one to tell someone not to do anything so let us know what you gained.
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Jeff, please send me that info. I would appreciate it.
The set up on this car is very mild compared to either of yours. Still, it pegged out the 75mm MAF at a couple points during the pull. I may investigate going SD, but I think the Z06 MAF can handle my current combo.
The set up on this car is very mild compared to either of yours. Still, it pegged out the 75mm MAF at a couple points during the pull. I may investigate going SD, but I think the Z06 MAF can handle my current combo.
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Still, it pegged out the 75mm MAF at a couple points during the pull.
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Another solution would be a metal transition. I had to use one on my ride since I couldn't find a silicone transition.
spd exhaust sells really nice ones,
http://www.mygazines.com/title/2463
CT350-375 is the part number you'd need. They are about 9 inches in overall length I just cut off what I didn't need, perfect fit and it was a bunch cheaper then having a custom silicone piece made.
Have you tried calling hose techniques? They offer custom couplers-1-866-GET-HOSE (438-4673).
Hope this helps
spd exhaust sells really nice ones,
http://www.mygazines.com/title/2463
CT350-375 is the part number you'd need. They are about 9 inches in overall length I just cut off what I didn't need, perfect fit and it was a bunch cheaper then having a custom silicone piece made.
Have you tried calling hose techniques? They offer custom couplers-1-866-GET-HOSE (438-4673).
Hope this helps
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Thanks frcefed98. I called Hose Techniques and unfortunately they will only do custom pieces in production runs of 50 or more.
I'll look at the SPD catalog and check out the part you mentioned.
I may just end up using the piece of Gates Vulco hose that I have on order. I was using a straight piece of 3.5" ID for several years and it worked great, so I am pretty confident the 3.75" stuff will be fine too. I'll just have to make an adapter from a piece of my existing hose to make the end of the airlid fit snugly.
See the Red MAF and 3.5" Vulco hose? It will be replaced by a Z06 MAF and 3.75" hose.
I'll look at the SPD catalog and check out the part you mentioned.
I may just end up using the piece of Gates Vulco hose that I have on order. I was using a straight piece of 3.5" ID for several years and it worked great, so I am pretty confident the 3.75" stuff will be fine too. I'll just have to make an adapter from a piece of my existing hose to make the end of the airlid fit snugly.
See the Red MAF and 3.5" Vulco hose? It will be replaced by a Z06 MAF and 3.75" hose.
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Here is what the steel transitions look like
So get basically what you are looking for, just cut to fit and join with a 1in 3.5 and 1in 3.75 piece of hose on each end.
Or the easiest plan seems to be what you just said, just sleeve it and tighten her down, being on the intake side and not the pressure side is also a plus
So get basically what you are looking for, just cut to fit and join with a 1in 3.5 and 1in 3.75 piece of hose on each end.
Or the easiest plan seems to be what you just said, just sleeve it and tighten her down, being on the intake side and not the pressure side is also a plus
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Thanks frcefed, I'll keep that as a reserve idea.
Inspector12, I may eventually go to a SD tune. Not looking forward to pulling off much of the blower kit to remove the intake manifold and swap in a 2 bar MAP sensor. I'm always working on one or the other of these cars, so not excited about adding more projects right now.
I just got in my 8 rib conversion kit for my Procharged car, so that one is next in line to go under the knife.
Inspector12, I may eventually go to a SD tune. Not looking forward to pulling off much of the blower kit to remove the intake manifold and swap in a 2 bar MAP sensor. I'm always working on one or the other of these cars, so not excited about adding more projects right now.
I just got in my 8 rib conversion kit for my Procharged car, so that one is next in line to go under the knife.
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Here is what I ended up with. Had to make my own couplers between lid and MAF and then between MAF and intake pipe to the blower.
EDIT: We took the car out for a little drive with the data logger hooked up and it is flowing a lot more air! Not only have I swapped the 75mm Granatelli MAF for the 85mm ZO6 MAF, but I also recently swapped out the stock, untouched 75mm TB for a smooth 80mm unit. Will try to hit the dyno this week with a buddy who knows his way around HP Tuners. Looking forward to seeing a power gain.
EDIT: We took the car out for a little drive with the data logger hooked up and it is flowing a lot more air! Not only have I swapped the 75mm Granatelli MAF for the 85mm ZO6 MAF, but I also recently swapped out the stock, untouched 75mm TB for a smooth 80mm unit. Will try to hit the dyno this week with a buddy who knows his way around HP Tuners. Looking forward to seeing a power gain.
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Good to hear Todd. When are you and Brian hitting the dyno again? Would love to meet you up there and check it out. I should be getting my hoses and piping Friday for my car.
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