fortmyerspolice

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Hey I have a PATG spec cam im putting in possibly this weekend, and I was wondering if the car could make it to Orlando for the tune. It's a 226/230 .598 .600 113+4

AW794

iTrader: (7)

My buddy drove around for a month with his un-tuned g5x3. Im no expert, but i know it does work if you had to do it.

USArmyZ28

iTrader: (3)

Where in orlando is your shop? Ill be back in miami and was wondering where I could get the car tuned if need it be. My car ran like horse **** untuned,

eamador11

I wouldnt, your risking fouling out plugs, bucking, surging, and other craziness. How about getting a starter mail order tune from the shop then drive it to them for the final dyno tune?

PREDATOR-Z

Seing as this is a small cam you can but I would not go above 4K rpms or WOT.

WSsick

iTrader: (13)

im with pred, you can drive on that smaller cam for a while, just dont go ball to the wall. cruising on the highway, you should be fine.

fortmyerspolice

iTrader: (7)

Mike Norris is probably going to be tuning it, I just need to get to him, he's in Orlando.

Titanws6

iTrader: (35)

Good choice, Mike is an awesome guy.

DaveX

If you have already had it tuned for the headers then it might be ok if you baby it. You will probably have some driveability issues though, so beware. The concern I would have is that it will run lean, especially if it hasn't already been tuned for the headers.

teke184

iTrader: (5)

why not tune it at RevX in sarasota? much closer.

Damian

iTrader: (89)

This subject drives me nuts.....

Guys/girls. Read this - From 1998-2000, we had absolutely NO TUNING for internal modifications, and raced all the time. Back then we drilled the TB hole, and for those who could afford it, put a MAFT on the car, and went to the dragstrip

Yes, tuning is necessary. Of course. Is it going to be the death of your engine if you drive it untuned with a cam or heads/cam? NO. We were rolling racing to 150mph with untuned heads/cam cars 10 years ago.

Of course this excludes turbo/supercharger/nitrous cars.

/rant.

eamador11

umm I could understand doing that if you didnt have any tuning options back then. But it would be retarded to do that now with all kinds of tuning options

02*C5

iTrader: (1)

I agree with eamador11 your talking ten years ago when the options of tuning where at best none, and while you are very learned in many aspects of the LSx engine and you have given me much important info, tuning is a must in all cars today to get optimal performance.

fortmyerspolice

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I bet they ran like **** too.

1987firechicken

Jeez guys he's not saying don't get it tuned he is putting it in perspective. Your not going to hurt you motor making a trip to your tuner unless your doing a speed run the whole way there. As said before keep it under 4k and your fine.

The reason for this is your car will adjust the fueling itself with STFT and LTFT under this RPM (why do you think we have those fancy O2 sensors?). After 4k you start relying on MAF and calculations that are wrong for your setup with no fuel trimming taking place, this CAN hurt your motor.

Is it going to idle bad, surge, and make lower power? YES.
Is it going to destroy your motor to cruise to your tuner on the highway? NO.

Your not going to wash down **** unless you put in bigger injectors.

Damian

iTrader: (89)

Could either of you two point out where I was promoting or recommending this behavior?

The big cam cars did (back then 230 was HUGE), but the 220-224 duration cars ran just fine.

Listen people, since reading comprehension must be on shortage today I'll spell it out. I never said "Hey you should always drive your car untuned". I was putting it into perspective, because people act like it's going to be catastrophic to your engine to drive it untuned for a while. In an N/A setup, especially a cam only or heads/cam car, this is silly nonsense. You can drive a car untuned, and it is not going to hurt anything as long as you aren't a moron and redlining at every red light. Should everybody do this? No. Should it be done at all? No. But if somebody is in a pinch or needs to drive elsewhere to get the car tuned, it isn't going to throw a rod through the hood like the internet mechanics will have you think. You're not committing murder to your engine driving it untuned for a few miles.

2000Hawk

iTrader: (5)

After installing my MS3 i drove it to work for a straight week, and then drove it from Miami to Tampa that friday on a stock tune to go get it tuned. That entire week though it did want to shut off a few times, but it wasn't to bad. But i never did pass 4k rpms or get on it at all since i was on the stock tune.
-Joel

PREDATOR-Z

Guys things you should be aware of:

A big duration cam (mid 23x+) is a higher risk untuned for 2 reasons (1> It will be pig rich at idle and that could wash you cylinders), (2> It will be lean above 4K rpm and that could cause detonnation and kill your pistons)

Now for that smallish 226, it should be fine to reach that tuner. Things to avoid (staying at idle for too long a time (severe back to back traffic), going above 4K rpm or Wide open throttle to avoid lean condition)
Highway cruise speed will be best.

Engine_HP

iTrader: (1)

+1


outstanding advice.

13lu91rS

iTrader: (1)

I'm going to recommend geoff from Next Level for your tune. The guys at NLP do excellent quality work and I'm deff going back when the t76/ forged 408 gets installed!!