Pontiac GTO 2004-2006 - Who all sells the mini tub kits?

I was just wondering who all sells the mini tub kits for out GTOs. I've been wanting to do one for a while, I just don't know if I can fit it into my winter mod budget this year.

i know who does them, not as a kit.
east texas muscle car

GFORCE is making a kit I believe. I had my minitub done at ETMC in Texas.

How necessary is a mini tub? Many cars have hooked just fine on less tire than the stock wheel wells can hold.

-Will

How necessary is a mini tub? Many cars have hooked just fine on less tire than the stock wheel wells can hold.

-Will

im pretty sure its important... along with a good suspension setup. One without the other, usually means spinning all over the place without slicks....If you plan to hook on the street i think a tub is a must. Or run DR's everywhere...replacing them every few months...


JMHO

I think also a mini tube allows you to run a deep dish wheel in the rear also. But hey how much is etmc charging to do a mini tub.

I think also a mini tube allows you to run a deep dish wheel in the rear also. But hey how much is etmc charging to do a mini tub.

you can run staggered wheels without a mini tub.... A mini tub will help you squeeze fatter meats then 275's in the rear...

I think also a mini tube allows you to run a deep dish wheel in the rear also. But hey how much is etmc charging to do a mini tub.

Regular price is 1700. Believe he is running a special right now for 1500.

When you are not getting traction before 3rd gear then it is time for some 315s.

im pretty sure its important... along with a good suspension setup. One without the other, usually means spinning all over the place without slicks....If you plan to hook on the street i think a tub is a must. Or run DR's everywhere...replacing them every few months...


JMHO



This makes no sense to me....I completely understand a good suspension, but minitubs being required doesn't make sense to me. You say one without the other means spinning all over the place without slicks .....then you say you'll spin without a minitub or run DR's everywhere ...

So are you saying that you intend on trying to hook on regular street tires after a minitub?

Sorry, I'm not buying the idea that minitubs are required. Somebody please explain. If all goes well, I hope to be the owner of a GTO next week.

-Will

i heart fat meats....

Wow at the reading comprehension in this thread. Minitubs are not a necessity at anything below 500rwhp. When you start making serious power it is a good idea for safety do have more tire on the road. Will you still be able to spin 315s well yeah if you want to, but will get more traction then a stock 245. They make thim in Drag Radials as well if you cross into the crazy power levels.

Ah, so you ARE talking about trying to hook 400+ RWHP on true street tires....

mistake #1.

-Will :)

This makes no sense to me....I completely understand a good suspension, but minitubs being required doesn't make sense to me. You say one without the other means spinning all over the place without slicks .....then you say you'll spin without a minitub or run DR's everywhere ...

So are you saying that you intend on trying to hook on regular street tires after a minitub?

Sorry, I'm not buying the idea that minitubs are required. Somebody please explain. If all goes well, I hope to be the owner of a GTO next week.

-Will

Thats why i said it usually means spinning all over the place. We all know it your plans are to boost, you can make 500whp easily.

All Im saying is after a tub w/ 315's DR's, and suspension, i plan to hook well on the street. I think thats the best and safest way to do it. I've broke loose at 75-85 mph.. and its really not fun at all. Its down right scary, and makes me wanna drive like a grandma afterwards !

I'll speak for myself then........

It depends on how much power you plan to make..... my goal is 1000hp daily driven.... so a tub is a necessity

To each their own, maybe I just have something to learn....I've never considered tubs a must on anything else. Maybe the GTO is gonna somehow be a different story.

-Will

To each their own, maybe I just have something to learn....I've never considered tubs a must on anything else. Maybe the GTO is gonna somehow be a different story.

-Will

You probably never had to consider it on any other build because the GTO is the only car you've built that had such limited space for tire in the rear.... JMHO

Wow at the reading comprehension in this thread. Minitubs are not a necessity at anything below 500rwhp. When you start making serious power it is a good idea for safety do have more tire on the road. Will you still be able to spin 315s well yeah if you want to, but will get more traction then a stock 245. They make thim in Drag Radials as well if you cross into the crazy power levels.

Wow at the spelling mistakes. A peak horsepower dyno number is not the standard for determining how much rubber you need on the ground. Got to love the internet.

its just as easy to make your own mini tub kit. here is what they look like done http://gastiresoil.com/showthread.php?t=609

We run our GTO with NO mini tub our tire is a 275/50/15 DR and we also run a 10 inch x 28 slick granted we only run low 9s at 150+ MPH and No mini tub Needed.I dont think one is Needed as Long as You Run a good rear suspension set up.....Frank

Wow at the spelling mistakes. A peak horsepower dyno number is not the standard for determining how much rubber you need on the ground. Got to love the internet.

hmmmm....obviously we know what shreds tires is tq but lets contemplate this for a second.... In our cars if you are pushing 500rwhp your tq is where??? around 475 or so. nevermind you were trying to act all smart that you probably could not deduce this simple fact.

If your car is a track car then obviously slicks, suspension, and gears will take care of you. Since you can't drive slick on a street then wide rear tires can help some.

hmmmm....obviously we know what shreds tires is tq but lets contemplate this for a second.... In our cars if you are pushing 500rwhp your tq is where??? around 475 or so. nevermind you were trying to act all smart that you probably could not deduce this simple fact.

Where did you come up with the formula that all cars that make 500rwhp on a dyno also make 475 rwtq on the dyno, regardless if it's f/i, a h/c car, stroker, on the bottle, M6, 4000 stall..................................., and that that is the point where you don't need a mini tub on a GTO no matter the suspension set up? I actually agree that the factory tire width is enough for most GTO owners, but don't post some amateur internet information.

We run our GTO with NO mini tub our tire is a 275/50/15 DR and we also run a 10 inch x 28 slick granted we only run low 9s at 150+ MPH and No mini tub Needed.I dont think one is Needed as Long as You Run a good rear suspension set up.....Frank

Thank you :)

-Will

You probably never had to consider it on any other build because the GTO is the only car you've built that had such limited space for tire in the rear.... JMHO


Maybe so....

Does anybody offer flared fenders? I'm not talking about bolt on flares or fabbing in some fiberglass ones....I'm talking about new, flared fenders? This would make the car look a lil better AND allow more tire.

-Will

Where did you come up with the formula that all cars that make 500rwhp on a dyno also make 475 rwtq on the dyno, regardless if it's f/i, a h/c car, stroker, on the bottle, M6, 4000 stall..................................., and that that is the point where you don't need a mini tub on a GTO no matter the suspension set up? I actually agree that the factory tire width is enough for most GTO owners, but don't post some amateur internet information.

Blah blah blah, again read the entire post. I said 475tq OR SO!!! If you dont want a minitub then dont get one, no one cares. If you want help with traction wider tires help the equation period!!! Why do vettes have 325+ out back and other super cars have wider, because it is safer then a damn 245 end of story.


Oh and Frank's setup is badass for sure and hooks like a beast at the track. But ask him if he would push his car balls to the wall on 275 drag radials on the street or even 50% throttle for that matter. I am sure he would not hook till 90mph or so.

hmmmm....obviously we know what shreds tires is tq but lets contemplate this for a second.... In our cars if you are pushing 500rwhp your tq is where??? around 475 or so. nevermind you were trying to act all smart that you probably could not deduce this simple fact.

If your car is a track car then obviously slicks, suspension, and gears will take care of you. Since you can't drive slick on a street then wide rear tires can help some.

exactly...thats wut i was trying to say ....:zzz:

Blah blah blah, again read the entire post. I said 475tq OR SO!!! If you dont want a minitub then dont get one, no one cares. If you want help with traction wider tires help the equation period!!! Why do vettes have 325+ out back and other super cars have wider, because it is safer then a damn 245 end of story.


Oh and Frank's setup is badass for sure and hooks like a beast at the track. But ask him if he would push his car balls to the wall on 275 drag radials on the street or even 50% throttle for that matter. I am sure he would not hook till 90mph or so.

agreed if u plan to attempt hooking big power on the street, suspension alone will not get it. You WILL NEED a wider contact patch, and to house said contact patch on a GTO you need to tub.

I like mine. Done by LSPWR and me in my garage. Josh also offers this service at his shop located in Nashville

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Nice rotors.

-Will

We run our GTO with NO mini tub our tire is a 275/50/15 DR and we also run a 10 inch x 28 slick granted we only run low 9s at 150+ MPH and No mini tub Needed.I dont think one is Needed as Long as You Run a good rear suspension set up.....Frank

And this is where this thread should have ended. Thanks Frank!

..... my goal is 1000hp daily driven....[/B]

Hope it is more legit than your "600 rwhp at 3800rpms" or "60mpg cruising 100mph".

Seriously though you are an idiot you should not be trying to chime in your advice about anything. ;)

:lol:Hope it is more legit than your "600 rwhp at 3800rpms" or "60mpg cruising 100mph".

Seriously though you are an idiot you should not be trying to chime in your advice about anything. ;)

:lol:

Hope it is more legit than your "600 rwhp at 3800rpms" or "60mpg cruising 100mph".

Seriously though you are an idiot you should not be trying to chime in your advice about anything. ;)

That did make me laugh... I get 99.9 MPG when I coast down a big hill at 90+mph...

I never claimed 600whp@ 3800RPMS.... I said the tuner let off the throttle at 3800rpms because I was headed for 600whp based upon the rate of which the power was climbing, not good for the stock block.

I also never claimed 60mph while cruising 100mph. When I got my best MPG I was crawling along at about 65-70 1200rpms 6th gear... The way I had all the pictures arranged on my Car Domain page may have led ppl to assume incorrectly so I changed it, to be more clear... that is all...

But if some of you would rather assume that I made all this up to earn sum "make believe award" or the respect of strangers, then be my guest.

Wow at the spelling mistakes. A peak horsepower dyno number is not the standard for determining how much rubber you need on the ground. Got to love the internet.

You're an idiot. You're right, increasing your hp has nothing to do with how much traction you need. An increase in HP requires an increase of traction. More meat out back can help with the traction, so can suspension, choose your path. Not a hard concept.

soback on subject here, i think we have established that it is almost just as easy to build your own as it is to buy a mini tub kit.

We run our GTO with NO mini tub our tire is a 275/50/15 DR and we also run a 10 inch x 28 slick granted we only run low 9s at 150+ MPH and No mini tub Needed.I dont think one is Needed as Long as You Run a good rear suspension set up.....Frank


no mini tub here (275/40-17 on Stock wheels)
Hotchkis Anti Sway bars are my only suspension mods

best 60' was 1.55
(and I've cut lots of 1.6x's)

I hook over 600lbs of tq @ the rear wheels
on "Street tires" (got over 8K miles and 100 passes on the last set)



then again,
I cut 1.8x on my stock KDWS's;)



BTW,
I'd love to get more rubber under the back

I went 9.41 at 144 on 10.5" slicks with no mini tub. Took a big ass hammer to make them fit. That was a bone stock rear suspension too.
Since then I have moddified rear control arms and mini tubs + coil overs, now I can fit a 325 drag radial or a 28x14.5 hoosier :)
Getting it set for 8.50's

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retarted question, can you still have your back seat?

Yes, it still fits believe it or not.

Yes, it still fits believe it or not.

i didnt think it would, guess i can get my tubbed when the time comes

i didnt think it would, guess i can get my tubbed when the time comes

I'm fitting the 15x14.5 Hoosier quick time pro's this week on custom made Bogart wheels.
Goona be a tight fit but I think they will fit.
The 15x14.5 Hoosiers the same section width as a 325 drag radial and a 28x10.5W slick :)

I'm fitting the 15x14.5 Hoosier quick time pro's this week on custom made Bogart wheels.
Goona be a tight fit but I think they will fit.
The 15x14.5 Hoosiers the same section width as a 325 drag radial and a 28x10.5W slick :)

325! nice oil drums!

MadMan Racing reworked my inner wheel wells for 315 series Toyo R888 road racing tires.