Street Racing & Kill Stories - Grocery getter Altima beat bolt ons camaro

Not my race just found this thread when i was surfing on the web

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/racing-stories/290335-se-r-vs-modded-ls1.html

they're from oklahoma, i wanna hear the camaro side of the story if he's here

Altima was on steroid(read NAWZ), and the camaro makes 350rwhp

i just find the race is pretty interesting since i wouldn't expect an altima even with steroid would beat a bolt ons camaro, especially from a dig...

My 02 maxima had the same motor and with just intake exhaust and a tune i was putting down 250hp 240 tq, and theres a few other guys out with the altimas and maximas that put down 260~270 with full bolt ons.

So with a 100 shot its believeable , the camaro could of had a bad launch or hit revlimiter and thats all it would take for the alti to catch the lead with a 100 shot.

Oh ya thats Juised's ride... Im supposed to be running him next time he comes to the DFW area.. lol That SE-R moves out! He also ran an 09 V on a 125 shot and held his own.. Kind of messed something up in the process but had a blast doing it... Hes a good dude!

Oh ya thats Juised's ride... Im supposed to be running him next time he comes to the DFW area.. lol That SE-R moves out! He also ran an 09 V on a 125 shot and held his own.. Kind of messed something up in the process but had a blast doing it... Hes a good dude!

ehhh i dont know about a 09 V....


The altima would need like a 250 shot or a open nozzle... lol

good luck with your race, get it on vid..

Oh ya thats Juised's ride... Im supposed to be running him next time he comes to the DFW area.. lol That SE-R moves out! He also ran an 09 V on a 125 shot and held his own.. Kind of messed something up in the process but had a blast doing it... Hes a good dude!

i need to run this guy just for the fun of it lol, i think he mentioned in his thread that he goes to DFW pretty often, what kind of power you put down? you shouldn't have a problem to beat him

Why do they call their cars alti's?:nono:

Why do they call their cars alti's?:nono:

same reason some people call camaro "maro"

quick car but i hate those videos from the side of the road like that

i need to run this guy just for the fun of it lol, i think he mentioned in his thread that he goes to DFW pretty often, what kind of power you put down? you shouldn't have a problem to beat him

I could set that up for you if you wanted just for fun... PM me if you want too.

Oh and I havent dyno's her yet but I know she runs at about the power she needs to be at.. If I had to guess I would say between 333 to 345whp

I could set that up for you if you wanted just for fun... PM me if you want too.

Oh and I havent dyno's her yet but I know she runs at about the power she needs to be at.. If I had to guess I would say between 333 to 345whp

i already registered in nissanclub.com and pmed him there, but no reply yet..your dyno # is similar to mine, so if i could win easy then you wouldn't have no problem to beat him

quick car but i hate those videos from the side of the road like that

Thats what im saying, on the Nissan Forum he says he did everything he could to prove it but I respectfully disagree. The camara in the car would def be a step up. Ive heard them things are fast so its believeable imo but id still like to see a better vid.

i'm still in denial that an altima with 100shot like the OP claim can beat a 350rwhp camaro

maybe camaro just needs the driver mod

sounded like the camaro was in the wrong gear, auto fail

maybe camaro just needs the driver mod

Camaro has an automatic. It needs a stall, sticky tires and a better gear at the back.

I personally don't know him but have seen him at Able racing in Midwest City when he was having all that done. I can see it happening, until the SS gets gears and a stall. someone will put him in his place soon. Right now he's the good guy cause camaro guy sought him out.

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I dont believe a second of that. A race is all about the driver anyways. But given everything is equal at all times, the 6MT is the way to go.
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Typical ricer.... All things equal (mods) at the same track, same day, next to each other... An A4 will win 95% of the time..

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Typical ricer.... All things equal (mods) at the same track, same day, next to each other... An A4 will win 95% of the time..

yes sir, quicker more consistant shifts, harder launches, etc. pretty much every drag racing tranny in the pro's is an auto. most are full manual but its still an auto. PowerGlide FTW!!!

takes a damn good driver to win with a stick, but like you say lemons, thats the 5 percent.

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Typical ricer.... All things equal (mods) at the same track, same day, next to each other... An A4 will win 95% of the time..

I agree with you in a dig race BUT from a roll i've beaten a lot of A4 car with same mods with almost the same hp with me

unless of course if you don't count a roll race a race

I raced an altima on juice once. Set him out seven, gave him the kick, and walked by him in 2nd gear. Of course at the time I was running 10.70's@130 through a TH-400 :D

I raced an altima on juice once. Set him out seven, gave him the kick, and walked by him in 2nd gear. Of course at the time I was running 10.70's@130 through a TH-400 :D

was that in your mazda? :jest:

i really want to race him, win or lose i don't care..

No, it was in the 02 WS6, with a turbo of course :D

I agree with you in a dig race BUT from a roll i've beaten a lot of A4 car with same mods with almost the same hp with me

unless of course if you don't count a roll race a race

M6 for roll racing, A4 for real racing.

M6 for real driving, TH-400 or PG for real racing.

fixed for ya ;)

fixed for ya ;)
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I'll settle for that.. :judge:

if he's trapping 110 how much whp do you guys think he's making?

if he's trapping 110 how much whp do you guys think he's making?

I'd say prob right around 300. When I was lid and filter only I put down 349 and trapped 107-108. Our cars are heavier so I'm guessing he'd have a bit less hp. Is the Altima a fwd car or awd? If its a fwd, and you can drive AT ALL, I'd bet on you. Even if he traps a tad more than you, he shouldn't have enough to come get you on the big end if you do your part off the line. I'd call the LS1 by 2 to 3 cars.

guy just called me today, he said he dyno'd 370 IIRC, if he can get his altima fixed we're gonna have some runs and record it, win or lose it's gonna be fun :D

Oh ya thats Juised's ride... Im supposed to be running him next time he comes to the DFW area.. lol That SE-R moves out! He also ran an 09 V on a 125 shot and held his own.. Kind of messed something up in the process but had a blast doing it... Hes a good dude!

I just read his post about his race with a 09V and find that extremely hard to believe. He's claiming to have hung right next to a 556hp V from 40-150.....

M6 for roll racing, A4 for real racing.

lol

this thread isnt about 1/4 mile at the local strip.

Its about street racing.

6MT owns!



Driving an auto is just plain boring too.

lol

this thread isnt about 1/4 mile at the local strip.

Its about street racing.

6MT owns!

Driving an auto is just plain boring too.

lol what? I saw absolutely nothing I posted comical.

I didn't say it was about the 1/4 or 1/8 mile.

Bring your m6 to the track or the street.. A4 still wins.. REAL RACING (from a dig for you people that cant put 2+2 together) is a4... ROLL RACING (ricers, people that cant launch a car, people with no traction, etc) is for m6s..
Like I have said before.... M6 for roll racing, A4 for real racing.

I don't consider a roll race a real race.. Do I care if I get beat? Hell yes, but IMO nobody can say they have beat someone until they do it from a dig.

M6 owns at autox... A4 for everything else.

Yes, a stock auto is boring.. A stalled auto is a different story.. M6 is a pain in the ass.. That could go all day long.. That was a very sorry post all together on your part.

lol what? I saw absolutely nothing I posted comical.

I didn't say it was about the 1/4 or 1/8 mile.

Bring your m6 to the track or the street.. A4 still wins.. REAL RACING (from a dig for you people that cant put 2+2 together) is a4... ROLL RACING (ricers, people that cant launch a car, people with no traction, etc) is for m6s..
Like I have said before.... M6 for roll racing, A4 for real racing.

I don't consider a roll race a real race.. Do I care if I get beat? Hell yes, but IMO nobody can say they have beat someone until they do it from a dig.

M6 owns at autox... A4 for everything else.

Yes, a stock auto is boring.. A stalled auto is a different story.. M6 is a pain in the ass.. That could go all day long.. That was a very sorry post all together on your part.

Racing from a dig tells you whos the better driver, racing from a roll tells you whos car is actually faster.

Racing from a dig tells you whos the better driver, racing from a roll tells you whos car is actually faster.

where is there a competition for roll races? if you want to know whos car is faster go to a dragstrip and race, or an airport to run the Texas Mile. that should tell you. Hell even AutoCross races start at a dead stop, at least the ones when you race one at a time and fastest time wins.

racing from a dig tells you whos faster, I could put DRs on my car right now and there would be ZERO driving skill involved. Hell another member had a H/C/I z28 with a 4400 rpm stall and DRs and even that required no driving skill, Stomp it and Hold it down- 1.4 60 fts. Any real racer will tell you all the power in the world aint worth a shit if you cant put it down, drag racing is from a dead stop.

roll races are just us being nice to the people long enough to win again.

where is there a competition for roll races? if you want to know whos car is faster go to a dragstrip and race, or an airport to run the Texas Mile. that should tell you. Hell even AutoCross races start at a dead stop, at least the ones when you race one at a time and fastest time wins.

racing from a dig tells you whos faster, I could put DRs on my car right now and there would be ZERO driving skill involved. Hell another member had a H/C/I z28 with a 4400 rpm stall and DRs and even that required no driving skill, Stomp it and Hold it down- 1.4 60 fts. Any real racer will tell you all the power in the world aint worth a shit if you cant put it down, drag racing is from a dead stop.

roll races are just us being nice to the people long enough to win again.

I enjoy both personally, but drag races don't say who's car is faster. I've seen vettes trap 14s with people who can't drive them. I've seem many win races because of response time at the light. As a matter of fact, very many. Hence the term, you snooze you lose!

where is there a competition for roll races? if you want to know whos car is faster go to a dragstrip and race, or an airport to run the Texas Mile. that should tell you. Hell even AutoCross races start at a dead stop, at least the ones when you race one at a time and fastest time wins.

racing from a dig tells you whos faster, I could put DRs on my car right now and there would be ZERO driving skill involved. Hell another member had a H/C/I z28 with a 4400 rpm stall and DRs and even that required no driving skill, Stomp it and Hold it down- 1.4 60 fts. Any real racer will tell you all the power in the world aint worth a shit if you cant put it down, drag racing is from a dead stop.

roll races are just us being nice to the people long enough to win again.

The Texas Mile anyone?

Racing from a dig tells you whos the better driver, racing from a roll tells you whos car is actually faster.

No... Roll racing tells who makes more power *usually*, that is all..

To see who has the fastest car you MUST go from a dig.. Building a fast car isn't just about making power.. YOU HAVE TO PUT IT TO THE GROUND.. From a 60mph roll most people don't have traction issues.. Hell some people don't even have traction issues at 40mph..
To build a fast car you have to look at suspension/weight transfer/power/torque/etc etc etc... That is to see who has the fastest car.

I'll go ahead and say it.. Anybody who think roll racing is "better"/tell who has the fastest car/more fun/easier/etc etc ect/anything you can think of... YOU ARE A RICER!

Real racing is done from a dig, everything else is for the birds.

I would rather run from a dig but I still like roll racing as well! Besides I get called a ricer even if I win... lol

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this thread isnt about 1/4 mile at the local strip.

Its about street racing.

6MT owns!



Driving an auto is just plain boring too.

God I would have loved to run into you with my last setup. Your almighty "6MT" would've gotten :owned: by my TH-400 even from a roll. Not ALL autos suck from a roll. You should learn that quickly before you get your feelings hurt ;)

sounds like some of you know the guy - what are the mods on the altima?
from reading the thread on the nissan forum, it looks like he was saying he beat the camaro when he didn't have nitrous.

sounds like some of you know the guy - what are the mods on the altima?
from reading the thread on the nissan forum, it looks like he was saying he beat the camaro when he didn't have nitrous.

I don't know the guy but he sounds like a tool bag. Would someone go crack his ass please! The boy needs to be shown what an LS1 can do.

No... Roll racing tells who makes more power *usually*, that is all..

To see who has the fastest car you MUST go from a dig.. Building a fast car isn't just about making power.. YOU HAVE TO PUT IT TO THE GROUND.. From a 60mph roll most people don't have traction issues.. Hell some people don't even have traction issues at 40mph..
To build a fast car you have to look at suspension/weight transfer/power/torque/etc etc etc... That is to see who has the fastest car.

I'll go ahead and say it.. Anybody who think roll racing is "better"/tell who has the fastest car/more fun/easier/etc etc ect/anything you can think of... YOU ARE A RICER!

Real racing is done from a dig, everything else is for the birds.

This is debateable. Most street races are roll races. I spend my share time at the track, but to say real races are only from digs is just pure ignorance.:eyes:

Not every car is built for dragging, many of the high horsepower cars are built for the highway.

This is debateable. Most street races are roll races. I spend my share time at the track, but to say real races are only from digs is just pure ignorance.:eyes:

Not every car is built for dragging, many of the high horsepower cars are built for the highway.


Real races ARE from a dig. I've never seen a money race go down from a roll :gay:

Unless there are twisties involved (roadcourse) then the only way to see who is quicker is from a dig.
Some say they want to go from a roll to simply see which CAR is quicker, but as a Lemon said, the car's power is not the only variable that determines how quick a car is.
That being said, the best way to determine who is quicker (bar none) is at the track.

Real races ARE from a dig. I've never seen a money race go down from a roll :gay:

I've seen money exchange from diggs and from rolls.:engarde:

I'm sure you will see more comment on it.

IMHO a race is a race, rolls or digs are just the form of races, however i agree with lemons and kjmdrumz that usually people that know how to drive their car and actually put down the power to the wheels would prefer to race from a dig because they know what their car is capable of.
but if you notice most of street racing are done from a roll because not everyone can find a safe spot to do a dig run...so really it depends on the situation

oh and i've seen money involved in a roll racing simply because both cars agree that they wouldn't get traction from a dig.

I don't get why anyone would take sides? I guess because some guy claims such and such racing is the only "real" racing, LOL. Digs, rolls, Manual tranny, Auto. All of it is fun, bring it all on. Anyone who claims one tranny or one type of race is the only "real" type :gay:

IMO people that KNOW their car is quick race from a roll.. People that are unsure of what their car is capable of race from rolls.

Just seems shitty to me to ONLY pour money in engine mods and then go race people from 60 rolls because you are too stupid to figure out how to make a car hook.. Or you cant drive so you make a powerful car and ONLY run from a roll..

Will I roll race? Yes.. Does it matter to me or count for anything? No..
I have raced PLENTY of people from a roll.. Usually for 1 or 2 reasons.
1. They won't run me from a dig because they know the outcome..
2. It's me and a friend just BSing around and decide to have a run..

Leave the roll racing shit for Supras/bikes/imports.. We will continue to race from a dig! Thats what american muscle is about.. Not the 60mph bull shit.

so anyways... 'alti' ran a 13.37@110 (http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/3789272-post22.html) a few nights later - on spray. which is awesome for an altima, but pretty horrific for an LS to lose to.

sounds like some of you know the guy - what are the mods on the altima?
from reading the thread on the nissan forum, it looks like he was saying he beat the camaro when he didn't have nitrous.
ya the guy called me few days ago and told me that he's in the middle of fixing his car right now, if he does get the "alti" fixed we'll run and it's gonna be on tape, oh and he told me when he was off spray he ran 13.9@99 iirc so no whenever he beat the camaro it was ON spray

I don't know the guy but he sounds like a tool bag. Would someone go crack his ass please! The boy needs to be shown what an LS1 can do.
he actually doesn't, since you're in moore maybe you should come this weekend if he does get his car fixed

so anyways... 'alti' ran a 13.37@110 (http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/3789272-post22.html) a few nights later - on spray. which is awesome for an altima, but pretty horrific for an LS to lose to.
i don't get what you're trying to say, he told me that from a dig the camaro got him, but he beat the camaro from a roll

Real races ARE from a dig. I've never seen a money race go down from a roll :gay:

I have...around here unless you're at the track the only kind of racing that goes on is roll racing.

Leave the roll racing shit for Supras/bikes/imports.. We will continue to race from a dig! Thats what american muscle is about.. Not the 60mph bull shit.

Most if not all the fbodys around here roll race....

so anyways... 'alti' ran a 13.37@110 (http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/3789272-post22.html) a few nights later - on spray. which is awesome for an altima, but pretty horrific for an LS to lose to.

Not really...a 110MPH trap is faster then any stock and most lightly modded LS1s...given his ET i'd say he had traction issues..sounds like its got the power:weight of a mid to low 12 second car.

Not really...a 110MPH trap is faster then any stock and most lightly modded LS1s...given his ET i'd say he had traction issues..sounds like its got the power:weight of a mid to low 12 second car.

I'd say high 12 car. Most stock LS1's I've seen run 13.30's @ 107-108. Any bolt on 6 speed should trap at least 112ish. Oh and I'm not saying I've never roll raced. It's hella fun for sure. But when money comes into it, it's from a dig or it's not going down.

I'd say high 12 car. Most stock LS1's I've seen run 13.30's @ 107-108. Any bolt on 6 speed should trap at least 112ish. Oh and I'm not saying I've never roll raced. It's hella fun for sure. But when money comes into it, it's from a dig or it's not going down.

err saying a stock LS1 trap 107-108 is a lil bit exaggerated don't u think? my car in its stock form ran 14.4@104 (first time to the track) second time i managed to get 13.5@106 that was my best pass for that day i've never had a chance to go back to the track after intake and exhaust mods

if that altima on spray trap 110 and beat the camaro from a roll that means the camaro trap lower than that, and that's a bolt ons(I/E) camaro that put down 350rwhp if you live in moore you should know B&R performance they are the one that did all the works in the camaro

A stock 6-speed LS1 SHOULD trap 107-108. My first time down a track ever was a 13.33 @107.xx. Of course if the driver isn't up to it thats a different story ;) Back home, most stock LS1's I've seen go 13.20's-13.40's at 107-108. The only local company I trust with my LS1 is Performance Specialties, Inc. from back home in Baltimore. The owner, Jeff, is the best tuner I've ever seen. And as we all know, tuning can make or break a car (literally as well) There are several other big LS1 shops around there and they can't touch the cars coming out of his shop. Which is why when I do get an LS1 here in the near future it's getting driven back to Baltimore for the mods and tuning. Nothing against B&R but they won't be touching mine.

How did a stock cube, full weight (3780 with me in it), 3/4 tank of gas, heavy ass stock WS6 wheel, drag radial, cam-only (read:TR224, NOT a FI cam by any means) LS1 with a small turbo running only 7.5 psi go 10.79@130? The tune. Another shop around us had a Camaro that had weight taken out of it, slicks, draglites, all kinds of suspension work, h/c car with a D1SC at 8-9psi only go 11.30's @122.......because of the tune!

A stock 6-speed LS1 SHOULD trap 107-108. My first time down a track ever was a 13.33 @107.xx. Of course if the driver isn't up to it thats a different story ;) Back home, most stock LS1's I've seen go 13.20's-13.40's at 107-108. The only local company I trust with my LS1 is Performance Specialties, Inc. from back home in Baltimore. The owner, Jeff, is the best tuner I've ever seen. And as we all know, tuning can make or break a car (literally as well) There are several other big LS1 shops around there and they can't touch the cars coming out of his shop. Which is why when I do get an LS1 here in the near future it's getting driven back to Baltimore for the mods and tuning. Nothing against B&R but they won't be touching mine.

How did a stock cube, full weight (3780 with me in it), 3/4 tank of gas, heavy ass stock WS6 wheel, drag radial, cam-only (read:TR224, NOT a FI cam by any means) LS1 with a small turbo running only 7.5 psi go 10.79@130? The tune. Another shop around us had a Camaro that had weight taken out of it, slicks, draglites, all kinds of suspension work, h/c car with a D1SC at 8-9psi only go 11.30's @122.......because of the tune!

ok i agree with that, but according to this race the altima trapped 110 and he beat the camaro from a roll which means the camaro must trap lower than 110 correct? in your previous post you mentioned that a bolt ons ls1 should trap 110-112

ok i agree with that, but according to this race the altima trapped 110 and he beat the camaro from a roll which means the camaro must trap lower than 110 correct? in your previous post you mentioned that a bolt ons ls1 should trap 110-112

1 of 2 possibilities here. Either the car is a :turd: or the driver of the Camaro can't drive. A bolt-on (I/E/suspension car) should trap 112 all day, if not more! He should steadily pull away from the "alti" if it only trapped 110. That's the beauty of street racing though. I've seen an 11.teens car beat a 10.60 car on the street. The street is an entirely different animal!

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God I would have loved to run into you with my last setup. Your almighty "6MT" would've gotten :owned: by my TH-400 even from a roll. Not ALL autos suck from a roll. You should learn that quickly before you get your feelings hurt ;)
Our T56's work just fine thank you... And for every Auto you show me that beat a Manual with equal power I can show a manual that beat an auto with equal power... This was a pointless post...

I don't know the guy but he sounds like a tool bag. Would someone go crack his ass please! The boy needs to be shown what an LS1 can do.

He for sure isnt a tool.. Dudes actually cool as hell from talking to him! Try and get past the fact that he doesnt drive an LS and you will see...

so anyways... 'alti' ran a 13.37@110 (http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/3789272-post22.html) a few nights later - on spray. which is awesome for an altima, but pretty horrific for an LS to lose to.
Good god he has traction issues!!!! His trap speed I would say should have him around 12.7+

Our T56's work just fine thank you... And for every Auto you show me that beat a Manual with equal power I can show a manual that beat an auto with equal power... This was a pointless post...


From a dig a properly setup auto should win everytime. I'm not talking stock. I'm talking bolt-on/cam cars.

Good god he has traction issues!!!! His trap speed I would say should have him around 12.7+

reading that thread about his slip, looks like there's a lot in it that he simply can't get to the ground... slipping tranny, blowing the tires off in 1st and 2nd gear (on slicks).
i feel bad for his wallet, but it would be nice to see what sort of setup he ends up with to get the power to the ground.

sounds like everyone else that builds a 12sec capable FWD import then eventually ends up on LS1tech with a camaro.

The Texas Mile anyone?

The Texas Mile is nothing but a glorified one mile drag race, from a dead stop aka A Dig.:google:

Our T56's work just fine thank you... And for every Auto you show me that beat a Manual with equal power I can show a manual that beat an auto with equal power... This was a pointless post.

No, you can not.. I promise.

We arent talking bone stock cars.. Who gives a shit about that??? Talking bolt ons/gears/stall/cam... That is a VERY ignorant statement to make.

the guy that has the altima wrote this on nissanclub:

Ok this post will be for the non believers/haters or whatever you wanna be from LS1tech.com

I'm not here to argue with anyone because I know what MY car can do and has done and hasn't done. I'm not a little high school kid, I'm not a ricer, I'm not an idiot nor a tool whoever said that. I don't think I have the fastest car, it's quick for what it is but that's it. I drive an import yes, it's something very diffrent and something you sure as hell don't see everyday. Yea I could go spend the money and buy a Camaro or a Cobra but everyone has one and I have a six year old daughter so that was one reason I got this car and another reason was to be waaay diffrent than the norm so theres my reasoning, if it's not good enough who cares I like it so thats all that matters it's not waisted money to me at all. Oh and another reason I wanted to be diffrent is because it is absolutely priceless to see someones face when they got beat by an Altima that supposedly had no business racing in the first place and then wondering to theirself what the hell just happned, its a good feeling I guess you could say. I know there are alot faster cars out there than mine period! I'm not one of those guys who think I can't be beat because I've had my ass handed to me plenty of times by cars an Altima shouldn't even be in the same race as technically and I don't use that as an excuse, bottom line when I loose I just got my ass kicked so I'm cool with at least trying when some cars in the same "category" as me won't even race some of the cars I have. But a loss is a loss period, does't matter if you missed a gear, spun or whatever excuse you wanna try and use but I'm not one of those people. I've had some good runs with LS1 cars, a couple of Camaros, 1 Trans Am. And I've also ran 2 GTO's one being a 5.7 automatic with exhaust and the other was a 6.0 6spd with an intake, exhaust and a predator tune. Those may not be the "fastest" LS1's or GTO's on the block but they were def in my ballpark to race I guess you could say. For the record, the last time I went to the dyno for tuning with a misfire because of a split in the custom intake manifold I have and didnt find until sometime later, the car still made 368whp and 380tq which is not the video posted on here. This was done on a 100shot with the bottle pressure right at 1050psi. And the best track pass that the car has made was a 13.06 @ 110mph on Nitto DR's done in Noble, Oklahoma and it was still 97 degrees at 9pm that night. I just wanted to clarify things for those guys that didn't know, or were curious or whatever the case may be. I'll say it again my car is not the fastest car nor do I think that, but for those who think there's no way an Altima like mine can't keep up with the basic I/H/E LS1 car your wrong, I hate to admit it but my Altima is the proof and has been more than once so sorry to burst your bubble.



Here are a few videos of my slow ass Altima doing what it does.

Cocky Mach 1 Driver
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Modded-SER-vs-Modded-Mach_153450.htm

Traction Issues
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Altima-SER-at-the-track_186690.htm

Untuned Dyno on Nitrous
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Altima-SER-Dyno_687609.htm



And the video that started all of this..
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Altima-SER-vs-Camaro-SS_691543.htm

This last race was from a 30roll, since I beat him from the roll I didn't punk out like us "ricers" do and I kindly gave him his roll race knowing I was gonna get killed. He ened up winning by a car, but from the jump he was about 3 cars or so out in front due to me spinning my ass off on street tires. I almost reeled him in by the 1/4 mile but almost doesnt count right!? So there you have it, I'm admitting the LS1 beat me from a dig!!

:lol: he should race a stalled a4.. no bolt ons necessary to beat that time..

I just read his post about his race with a 09V and find that extremely hard to believe. He's claiming to have hung right next to a 556hp V from 40-150.....

And thats where the bullshit hammer drops.

Typical ricer idiot, gets the jump on a Camaro for the first 500ft and thinks he can beat 556HP CTS-V's.

And thats where the bullshit hammer drops.

Typical ricer idiot, gets the jump on a Camaro for the first 500ft and thinks he can beat 556HP CTS-V's.

about the CTSV i'm not gonna call it bs if i didn't see it firsthand, it does hard to believe but not necessarily bs

as for the camaro, he got video to back up his story i don't see what else would problem.

:lol: he should race a stalled a4.. no bolt ons necessary to beat that time..

i'll let him know that :jest:

about the CTSV i'm not gonna call it bs if i didn't see it firsthand, it does hard to believe but not necessarily bs

as for the camaro, he got video to back up his story i don't see what else would problem.

got a link to the race with the cts?

i'll ask him if he's got a video of that race.

I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY LS1. It will be full bolt-on's by the end of November. I'm gonna show the kid what a bolt-on LS1 should do!

I CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY LS1. It will be full bolt-on's by the end of November. I'm gonna show the kid what a bolt-on LS1 should do!

I know, I can't wait to get my ls1 either........ :secret2:





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I know, I can't wait to get my ls1 either........ :secret2:





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I 3rd that motion, someday ill have one so i can hang with you guys:chug: its gonna be a while though:ripped:

i don't get what you're trying to say, he told me that from a dig the camaro got him, but he beat the camaro from a roll
just reread it. whoops.

Not really...a 110MPH trap is faster then any stock and most lightly modded LS1s...given his ET i'd say he had traction issues..sounds like its got the power:weight of a mid to low 12 second car.
can't take trap speed as an accurate measure of power when you're fighting traction - which he did (click the link i provided, he battled some serious issues just to get to 13.3). it's def. a 12 sec car though.

and dude seems like a chill guy to me. i was in no way bashing on him, just pointing out that 13.37 ET since i (incorrectly) thought the camaro lost to him from a dig.

just reread it. whoops.


can't take trap speed as an accurate measure of power when you're fighting traction - which he did (click the link i provided, he battled some serious issues just to get to 13.3). it's def. a 12 sec car though.

and dude seems like a chill guy to me. i was in no way bashing on him, just pointing out that 13.37 ET since i (incorrectly) thought the camaro lost to him from a dig.

In my white trans am......

7.2s@95.5mph on slicks, lifted tires then spun through the 60ft (1.60-1.64 sixty)
8.0@93.5mph on bald ass street tires... spun 1/2-3/4 of the track.. (2.2 sixty, i went about half throttle through the sixty then kicked it once i got some speed up and it broke loose twice)..

spinning does not hurt your trap speed as much as people say it does.. does it effect it? yea, but it still shows very close to what the car will do..

I think what he was getting at is a ~3400lb car that traps 110mph is solidly a 12s car with traction.

I think what he was getting at is a ~3400lb car that traps 110mph is solidly a 12s car with traction.

Ah, gotcha! :)

I think what he was getting at is a ~3400lb car that traps 110mph is solidly a 12s car with traction.

Which is why a 13-second car could beat him. Anything can happen on the street :secret2:

Which is why a 13-second car could beat him. Anything can happen on the street :secret2:

are you talking about the camaro or the altima? i think both of them are 12 second car with competent driver, the altima just trap higher which is why he won the roll race

In my white trans am......

7.2s@95.5mph on slicks, lifted tires then spun through the 60ft (1.60-1.64 sixty)
8.0@93.5mph on bald ass street tires... spun 1/2-3/4 of the track.. (2.2 sixty, i went about half throttle through the sixty then kicked it once i got some speed up and it broke loose twice)..

spinning does not hurt your trap speed as much as people say it does.. does it effect it? yea, but it still shows very close to what the car will do..

i thought spinning was actually makes you trap higher no?

Oh, we are still talking about a roll race. I'm talking a dig.

i thought spinning was actually makes you trap higher no?

I didn't go WOT til almost half track..

Why do you guys insist spinning gives you a higher trap speed? Keep hearing it mentioned here and am still waiting for the punch line. :scratchhead:

Please tell me you guys dont believe that time spent spinning which is time spent not accellerating but instead using up precious useable track is somehow going to give you extra power to make up for the lack of accelleration?

LOL

Spinning does not give you a higher trap speed...it gives the illusion of a higher trap speed since you will have a slower ET then what the trap speed indicates...

LOL

Spinning does not give you a higher trap speed...it gives the illusion of a higher trap speed since you will have a slower ET then what the trap speed indicates...

correct me if I'm wrong but spinning gets you in the next gear earliler....so you will trap higher but it will take you longer to get there.

Oh, and you can't have an illusion of a higher trap speed. It is measured from 1 block to the next....its black and white

LOL

Spinning does not give you a higher trap speed...it gives the illusion of a higher trap speed since you will have a slower ET then what the trap speed indicates...
Yea you're totally right because when I spun I trapped 86.5 and when I didn't spin as bad I trapped 84.5. Must have been some sort of illusion in the time slip.

Spinning CAN give you a higher trap, Not DOES. if your white smokin em then no it wont. It has to be the right kind of spinning, ie tires turning between 5% and 25% faster than the car is actually traveling. in other words it should more of a screech than a all out spin. To get the higher trap you must also continue that gentle spin for a decent distance, at least 300 ft out. This perfect spin is extremely difficult to achieve but its where the fact came from.

All that being said, with the right spin your ET would be the same but with a higher trap speed.

if you blaze em then ET and trap both get worse. dead hook with a stall 60' drops. perfect spin with stall 60' should get slightly worse, with ET staying the same and Trap goin up

Guys, with all the different tracks, car setups, different cars, tires, all the variables we all know are out there- there will always be exceptions to the rule. this fact came from regulated race cars that were damn near identicle so try not to argue it too much LOL

PS, specific numbers in my previous post are MY ESTIMATIONS. but i will say that the spin i speak of is also why dragsters have a huge white shoe polish stripe on a back tire's sidewall. that way they can measure that spin afterwards using the high speed cam footage of the car on its launch and subsequent 1/4 mile.

Spinning CAN give you a higher trap, Not DOES. if your white smokin em then no it wont. It has to be the right kind of spinning, ie tires turning between 5% and 25% faster than the car is actually traveling. in other words it should more of a screech than a all out spin. To get the higher trap you must also continue that gentle spin for a decent distance, at least 300 ft out. This perfect spin is extremely difficult to achieve but its where the fact came from.

All that being said, with the right spin your ET would be the same but with a higher trap speed.

if you blaze em then ET and trap both get worse. dead hook with a stall 60' drops. perfect spin with stall 60' should get slightly worse, with ET staying the same and Trap goin up

Guys, with all the different tracks, car setups, different cars, tires, all the variables we all know are out there- there will always be exceptions to the rule. this fact came from regulated race cars that were damn near identicle so try not to argue it too much LOL


agreed. most racers are not going to stay in it anyway when the tires start blazing, total waste. A little spin will get you a higher mph but will slow down your et.

If you spin even a little bit it is impossible to get the same ET..

The 60' mark is the most important number on the timeslip, imo. There's other factors, but that's the first one I look at, I can tell right away if I can improve my 1/8 and 1/4 times.

No... Roll racing tells who makes more power *usually*, that is all..

To see who has the fastest car you MUST go from a dig.. Building a fast car isn't just about making power.. YOU HAVE TO PUT IT TO THE GROUND.. From a 60mph roll most people don't have traction issues.. Hell some people don't even have traction issues at 40mph..
To build a fast car you have to look at suspension/weight transfer/power/torque/etc etc etc... That is to see who has the fastest car.

I'll go ahead and say it.. Anybody who think roll racing is "better"/tell who has the fastest car/more fun/easier/etc etc ect/anything you can think of... YOU ARE A RICER!

Real racing is done from a dig, everything else is for the birds.

Dude just chill out! Please. You love to come into threads about an entirely different topic and get the civil war thing going. Going by all the sh*t you talk i'd swear you had a fast car or something. :eyes:

I'll take my M6, leave in 3rd gear, and still finish the quarter quicker than your beloved auto. :chug:

M6 for roll racing, A4 for real racing.

Just to play devil's advocate, why do Pro Stock guys run Liberty's (manual trans) then?

Just to play devil's advocate, why do Pro Stock guys run Liberty's (manual trans) then?

that would be the shit to drive one of those. I'm assuming your just trying to chop up the waters cause all the other pro classes run a version of a glide. I would love to see a funny car driver shift a couple of times though!

that would be the shit to drive one of those. I'm assuming your just trying to chop up the waters cause all the other pro classes run a version of a glide. I would love to see a funny car driver shift a couple of times though!

That's not true really either. The fastest single turbo Pro Outlaw car
in the world runs a Liberty...again, a manual trans. :)

...and yes, I'm just stirring the pot. An auto is the way to go at the track.

Dude just chill out! Please. You love to come into threads about an entirely different topic and get the civil war thing going. Going by all the sh*t you talk i'd swear you had a fast car or something. :eyes:

I'll take my M6, leave in 3rd gear, and still finish the quarter quicker than your beloved auto. :chug:

And I give a shit about what you think why?

FWIW, I don't think I have a quick car at all.. Just for shits and giggles, what dyou run? Not what you dyno, what you run at an 1/8 or 1/4 track.

Also, what I said was right on par with how the thread was going.

I would say auto over H-pattern manual.
There are of course Lencos and the Liberty transmissions like Unit mentioned, but those aren't really anything like H-pattern manuals (they don't even have a clutch)...

On a side not, is Millen's transmission shifter pneumatic or manual?
I've gotta say, the liberty transmission looks sick; are they whiny as fuck and lack a reverse gear like dog engagement sequentials?

That's not true really either. The fastest single turbo Pro Outlaw car
in the world runs a Liberty...again, a manual trans. :)

...and yes, I'm just stirring the pot. An auto is the way to go at the track.

allright, I will bite. They arent really manuals either. Yeah you are shifting, but using no clutch. And for awhile the pro stock cars were just pulling levers....not much diff than an auto in a comp eliminator car.....so which is better????

allright, I will bite. They arent really manuals either. Yeah you are shifting, but using no clutch. And for awhile the pro stock cars were just pulling levers....not much diff than an auto in a comp eliminator car.....so which is better????


:bs: They absolutely are using a clutch. There's just no clutch pedal.
I barely use the clutch pedal in a T-56 at the track. It's depressed just
a enough to disengage/engage the clutch. It's still a clutch vs a converter.
It's irrelevant if there is a clutch pedal.

Which is better? The Liberty is vs a 'glide if you have the skills and
know how to get a car to hook.

allright, I will bite. They arent really manuals either. Yeah you are shifting, but using no clutch. And for awhile the pro stock cars were just pulling levers....not much diff than an auto in a comp eliminator car.....so which is better????

There have been many auto manufacturers that have made manual transmissions that don't have a clutch pedal.
VW had a manual trans. back in the late 60's-early 70's that had no clutch pedal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_transmission
http://askville.amazon.com/clutchless-transmission-drive/AnswerDetails.do?requestId=8430498&responseId=8447041

I know, I can't wait to get my ls1 either........ :secret2:





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WTF is that supposed to mean? You act like I'm a noob here and have never had an LS1 before.



P.S. I got my LS1.....care to partake in a contest of speed?

since he lives in ok i just asked him for a friendy run. would love to see how this car runs

WTF is that supposed to mean? You act like I'm a noob here and have never had an LS1 before.



P.S. I got my LS1.....care to partake in a contest of speed?

I was laughing at the other dude, not you.. I thought what you said was funny (not making fun of you).. You have an ls1 in your sig and said you cant wait to get one..............

Wow.....

P.S. I got my LS1.....care to partake in a contest of speed?
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2002 Silver WS6- Stock......

2002 Red WS6 Stock 5.7 Turbo TH-400 10.79@130 -GONE

Just for shits, what is it that you think I'm slower than? The time you have posted is nothing impressive, and you now have a "stock" car in your sig...... :confused:

Every post I see you post in your running your mouth about your little turbo trans am that you think is much faster than everyone on here... 10s IS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT on this site!

Just for shits, what is it that you think I'm slower than? The time you have posted is nothing impressive, and you now have a "stock" car in your sig...... :confused:

Every post I see you post in your running your mouth about your little turbo trans am that you think is much faster than everyone on here... 10s IS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT on this site!

So, what have you ran? I realize that a 10.79@ 130 pass isn't impressive to some, but again, what have you ran? Oh and btw, I was joking about the contest of speed thing. Relax bro! That's just the Glen Burnie Boys coming out in me! :D

So, what have you ran? I realize that a 10.79@ 130 pass isn't impressive to some, but again, what have you ran? Oh and btw, I was joking about the contest of speed thing. Relax bro! That's just the Glen Burnie Boys coming out in me! :D

Don't run 1/4 mile.. Too far for me to travel (:barf:3+ hours one way).. Fastest in this setup is a 7.4@92mphs on motor.. Have spray but no numbers yet... Had to guess I would say around a 6.6-6.7@104-105mph or so, that is bench racing though! :nod: