View Full Version : 05+ GTs' vs 04 GTOs' (LS1) stock vs stock


TungStang07
09-22-2009, 09:23 PM
Alright, right to the point. How does it go down stock to stock, right off the dealership parking lot. (LS1 vs 3v 4.6)

300hp vs 350hp.

What do you guys think, and no one be bias. Let the specs speak for themselves, or personal experience. IMOP I believe it's a drivers race.

And if anyone got 0-60 specs, 0-100, 1/8 , 1/4 times would be great too!

boostcreep
09-22-2009, 11:05 PM
GTO by 17 bus lengths

blkbltgoat
09-22-2009, 11:20 PM
the GTO would just edge out 05 and 06 stangs but would destory the 07 GT just a fact. btw wat year mustang do you drive

breze84
09-22-2009, 11:36 PM
My buddy has a 08 GT M5 and i have a 04 GTO M6.... I beat him bad stock vs. stock everytime we would race. Then he did FRPP cams, Short throw, 4.10 rear, Longtubes, full mac exhaust and intake ect. Basically full boltons.... Then i did pacesetter Longtubes and a tune and when we would run id pull him by half a car or so..... I now have a cam and full boltons and I pull him real hard... With all his mods with the 4.10 he put down around 320 / 335, you lose a little on the dyno with a higher rear ratio... Its really probably about 345 / 355. I put down 322 / 338 stock and 349 / 354 with longtubes and tune.... Now with the cam im putting down 390 / 378 with a slipping clutch... The dyno at modern muscle is a tad conservitive so im really probably at around 407 / 390 with a better clutch and more accurate dyno..... Mustang cant hang with the GTO without being full boltons compared to a pretty much stock one.

breze84
09-22-2009, 11:45 PM
My buddies full bolton 08 GT
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My 04 GTO, Getting tuned..... 3rd best pull of the day and the only one that had decent vid quality
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08GT SLP Catback, CAI 2nd gear vs. 04GTO Stock 3rd gear 45 - 150mph
He knows im faster so we tried to make it even, him in 2nd me in 3rd. I have the passenger which also makes it heavier.... He pulls from the 3rd honk but i pull him in and pass and even switch lanes lol....

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08GT SLP Catback, CAI 2nd gear vs. 04GTO Stock 2nd gear 45 - 110mph
I pull him bad here, even with a passenger.....

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08GT SLP Catback, CAI 1st gear vs 04GTO Stock 1st gear 15 - 125mph
I pull on him right away but boggle 3rd gear which gives him time to come back, but as i get higher in the RPM i pull away again...

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08GT full boltons including 4.10's Mickey Thompson DR's vs. 04GTO Cam, Longtubes, Untuned, Street tires lol.... Dig race, I spin real real bad and miss 3rd for a second but slam it in and catch him... He probably pulled me by 3 cars from the dig and another when i missed 3rd but i make ground pretty quick.... Not a real good vid but the only recent one we got, besides are track outting last week that i havent uploaded yet... My car has since been tuned.

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TARZAN
09-23-2009, 05:36 PM
I outran more than one 05+ GT in my 06 TBSS w/ almost nothing done.....and it weighed a LOT more than a GTO lol.

Its not even a fair race

-Will

TungStang07
09-23-2009, 06:32 PM
the GTO would just edge out 05 and 06 stangs but would destory the 07 GT just a fact. btw wat year mustang do you drive

Ha, too shey. Alright well nice videos, yet all the guys on the mustang forms say its the other way around, with slight edge to the mustang from a dig, and slight edge to the goats from a punch.

Night Terror
09-23-2009, 07:44 PM
the GTO would just edge out 05 and 06 stangs but would destory the 07 GT just a fact. btw wat year mustang do you drive

just curious why edge an 05-06 but trample an 07?

Fatbum
09-23-2009, 07:49 PM
just curious why edge an 05-06 but trample an 07?

It's the same exact setup no? So why a difference?


The GTs are easier to launch. From a dig, they might pull a car or two, but after that they are getting smoked by the GTO.

breze84
09-23-2009, 08:59 PM
just curious why edge an 05-06 but trample an 07?

He made a Joke... Because the op's user name says stang07 which I would assume he has a 2007 GT.... Saying his is slower than the others, Common guys get with it lmao....

TungStang07
09-23-2009, 09:18 PM
He made a Joke... Because the op's user name says stang07 which I would assume he has a 2007 GT.... Saying his is slower than the others, Common guys get with it lmao....


that's exactly what he was imposing. Tho it is a 07, it's just the 4.0. Some how ended up with it from my sister, and i'm not going to lie, it impressed me. in the works of trying to get a 94 supercoupe or a 3v gt. Just never been a fan of gm products. Tho the Cosmo purple goats are very clean looking, as well as the black with red leather int.

breze84
09-24-2009, 01:29 AM
Pulse Red is the best GTO though lol.....

breze84
09-24-2009, 01:30 AM
Ha, too shey. Alright well nice videos, yet all the guys on the mustang forms say its the other way around, with slight edge to the mustang from a dig, and slight edge to the goats from a punch.

Ya, There pretty much full of shit hahaha, And I got vids to prove it lol

novaflash2002
09-24-2009, 09:57 AM
that's exactly what he was imposing. Tho it is a 07, it's just the 4.0. Some how ended up with it from my sister, and i'm not going to lie, it impressed me. in the works of trying to get a 94 supercoupe or a 3v gt. Just never been a fan of gm products. Tho the Cosmo purple goats are very clean looking, as well as the black with red leather int.

do a ls seriers swap in that bitch.

6th gear
09-25-2009, 08:08 PM
Pulse Red is the best GTO though lol.....PBM FTW :rock:
To the OP.A 04 GTO stock will destroy alot of moded mustangs.And the new 2010 with its 350hp..oooooooooo,ga will they ever learn..LOL

LS12Fast4U
09-25-2009, 10:42 PM
Hey its kind of off topic from the Mustang and GTO but yesterday i was driving home and a guy in a Chrysler 300C (Hemi) thought he was a bad a$$ and wanted to race. We launched from the light and we were dead even ( i need sticky tires, i was laying rubber )
When i hit second gear i gained half a car length on him, as i hit third i pulled away by about another car length and going into fourth it wasnt even a race.

It was funny cause after that the guy wouldnt even look at me... Ha ha ha

breze84
09-26-2009, 01:56 AM
PBM FTW :rock:
To the OP.A 04 GTO stock will destroy alot of moded mustangs.And the new 2010 with its 350hp..oooooooooo,ga will they ever learn..LOL

Blah, Blacks to common lol.....

svede1212
09-26-2009, 08:21 AM
if there was a stock stang that could beat my stock 04 i never ran into him. i could see from a dig if it's an inexperience goat driver as they are more difficult to launch but with a good driver it goes to the GTO every time.

soulonfire11
09-26-2009, 03:04 PM
^^^03/04 cobra stock are pretty fast mustangs... pretty sure they are faster then the GTOs stock for stock

boostcreep
09-26-2009, 06:32 PM
^^^03/04 cobra stock are pretty fast mustangs... pretty sure they are faster then the GTOs stock for stock

and your point is............?

LS12Fast4U
09-26-2009, 06:36 PM
Dont forget that the 03/04 Cobras are also coming supercharged. At that time those Mustangs were Fords creme of the crop stang. I would hope they would beat are GTO's and F bodys. Its funny though that it takes a Supercharged Stang to keep up with us though.

breze84
09-27-2009, 02:28 PM
Supercharge are goats hahahaha

LS12Fast4U
09-27-2009, 03:08 PM
I want to. I would like to do the Kenne Bell, but i dont have 6 grand burning a whole in my pocket, and if i did my wife would castrate me.

TungStang07
09-27-2009, 04:55 PM
^^^03/04 cobra stock are pretty fast mustangs... pretty sure they are faster then the GTOs stock for stock

oh without a doubt will a 03 vs a ls1 goat be no competition. And you have to admit it. I've seen those races for my own two eyes... those snakes were just a different breed of their own. Just like the new Zr1s.. A breed of their own.... I'm starting to find interest in GMs tho... I'm a ford guy but I can't get over how much power those ls1s get off a cam. Now on the svt site, a bunch of gm guys are on this same convo and some way or another it got on topic that the ls1 fbodys is a drivers race between the ls2 goats, but the ls1 goats pull. something about the way the gearing is on the goats to the ls1fbodys. I dont kno, i'm not a gm guy, yall would have to read it for yourself, it's getting interesting. It's at svtperformance.com under road side kill in the forms. its like the top 5 threads.

as for doing a swap in the little v6, I'm thinking to keep it, and be on of the few s197 v6s.... or just getting a 03, or gt500. I prefer the 03/04. due to being lighter. but I like the inter. on the gt500s.. we'll see. In case anyone was wondering , the s197 4.0s are rated 210hp and 240tq. They're quite impressive over the old 3.8 from 190hp and 205tq. lol something like that.

LS12Fast4U
09-27-2009, 06:48 PM
Have you driven an F body or GTO yet? I owned a 99 T/A and then sold it and got a GTO. Once you drive either one and feel the difference between the LS1 and the ford 4.6 or the 5.0 you will sell the Ford and go GM.

I had a Mustang GT at one point and nothing compares to the GM.

SIC GTO
09-27-2009, 07:42 PM
oh without a doubt will a 03 vs a ls1 goat be no competition. And you have to admit it. I've seen those races for my own two eyes... those snakes were just a different breed of their own. Just like the new Zr1s.. A breed of their own.... I'm starting to find interest in GMs tho... I'm a ford guy but I can't get over how much power those ls1s get off a cam. Now on the svt site, a bunch of gm guys are on this same convo and some way or another it got on topic that the ls1 fbodys is a drivers race between the ls2 goats, but the ls1 goats pull. something about the way the gearing is on the goats to the ls1fbodys. I dont kno, i'm not a gm guy, yall would have to read it for yourself, it's getting interesting. It's at svtperformance.com under road side kill in the forms. its like the top 5 threads.

as for doing a swap in the little v6, I'm thinking to keep it, and be on of the few s197 v6s.... or just getting a 03, or gt500. I prefer the 03/04. due to being lighter. but I like the inter. on the gt500s.. we'll see. In case anyone was wondering , the s197 4.0s are rated 210hp and 240tq. They're quite impressive over the old 3.8 from 190hp and 205tq. lol something like that.

no competition??? Ive beat 2 03/04 cobras and I have a intake on my car lol And they werent stock one had catback and the other had intake catback and pulley I believe.

breze84
09-27-2009, 08:07 PM
oh without a doubt will a 03 vs a ls1 goat be no competition. And you have to admit it. I've seen those races for my own two eyes... those snakes were just a different breed of their own. Just like the new Zr1s.. A breed of their own.... I'm starting to find interest in GMs tho... I'm a ford guy but I can't get over how much power those ls1s get off a cam. Now on the svt site, a bunch of gm guys are on this same convo and some way or another it got on topic that the ls1 fbodys is a drivers race between the ls2 goats, but the ls1 goats pull. something about the way the gearing is on the goats to the ls1fbodys. I dont kno, i'm not a gm guy, yall would have to read it for yourself, it's getting interesting. It's at svtperformance.com under road side kill in the forms. its like the top 5 threads.

as for doing a swap in the little v6, I'm thinking to keep it, and be on of the few s197 v6s.... or just getting a 03, or gt500. I prefer the 03/04. due to being lighter. but I like the inter. on the gt500s.. we'll see. In case anyone was wondering , the s197 4.0s are rated 210hp and 240tq. They're quite impressive over the old 3.8 from 190hp and 205tq. lol something like that.

The 03/04 Cobra is generally a tad quicker car but not by that much.... Ive beaten a 03 Cobra by a fender stock for stock..... Anything can happen on the street. But whats awesome about the cobras they only need the most minimal upgrades to make big power.... Pulley, Tune, Exhaust 450whp......

SIC GTO
09-27-2009, 08:18 PM
The 03/04 Cobra is generally a tad quicker car but not by that much.... Ive beaten a 03 Cobra by a fender stock for stock..... Anything can happen on the street. But whats awesome about the cobras they only need the most minimal upgrades to make big power.... Pulley, Tune, Exhaust 450whp......

yeah they're quick but they gotta have a driver if they are stock lol

patisi
09-28-2009, 12:32 AM
Ha, too shey. Alright well nice videos, yet all the guys on the mustang forms say its the other way around, with slight edge to the mustang from a dig, and slight edge to the goats from a punch.

Stang07 I recall the thread in the Mustang forums as well, I made my comment and left it at that. In that thread there developed comments about the LS1 in the FBody and 04 GTO as well, it appears that owners of the latter generation LS1 in the FBody think they were underated, I dont know for sure so I disagree. I never owned an LS1 car, but my suspicion is that the FBody LS1 is no more underated than the LS1 GTO is.

JCamaro84z
09-28-2009, 02:15 AM
I don't really get many challenges by mustangs once they notice what it is they normally fall back but i had a 05 GT try to pull me while i was in 5th at 3grand an i just kinda laid into slowly an went by an kept putting on length i did slow down to wave but he didnt seem to care much for that. My cars bone stock lol i'm more tempted to put a 100 shot on it for all the damn turbo honda's around my area then other muscle cars.

breze84
09-28-2009, 06:50 AM
Stang07 I recall the thread in the Mustang forums as well, I made my comment and left it at that. In that thread there developed comments about the LS1 in the FBody and 04 GTO as well, it appears that owners of the latter generation LS1 in the FBody think they were underated, I dont know for sure so I disagree. I never owned an LS1 car, but my suspicion is that the FBody LS1 is no more underated than the LS1 GTO is.

For the 01-02 Fbodies... GM underated the HP rating on them..... They claimed 315hp but in actuality they are closer to 350 - 365hp.... The 04 GTO had a closer rating but are still a tad underated imo.... They claim 350 crank hp but bone stock I put down 322/338 which is around 365 - 375 crank hp..... But who really knows lol..... 01-02 Fbodies engine is the same as the 04 GTO.... Basically a 405hp 04 Z06 LS6 engine minus the 243 heads and tad larger cam....

SIC GTO
09-28-2009, 12:35 PM
For the 01-02 Fbodies... GM underated the HP rating on them..... They claimed 315hp but in actuality they are closer to 350 - 365hp.... The 04 GTO had a closer rating but are still a tad underated imo.... They claim 350 crank hp but bone stock I put down 322/338 which is around 365 - 375 crank hp..... But who really knows lol..... 01-02 Fbodies engine is the same as the 04 GTO.... Basically a 405hp 04 Z06 LS6 engine minus the 243 heads and tad larger cam....

damn you put down 322rwhp stock, my buddy put down 301rwhp with a intake and I only put down 285rwhp with intake and catless mids but they said because my check eng light was on that it pulled timing and that was why so low??? idk tho I was pissed lol I get my LT'S and custom catback next weekend then I will go and get it on another dyno this time. Oh and these were on dynojet!

LS12Fast4U
09-28-2009, 12:53 PM
285? That seems way to low. Get that check engine light taken care of and get another dyno test.

SIC GTO
09-28-2009, 03:45 PM
285? That seems way to low. Get that check engine light taken care of and get another dyno test.

yeah I know I couldnt believe it lol Ill try and get another b4 the headers go on and then after.

LS12Fast4U
09-28-2009, 04:23 PM
Keep us posted man.

breze84
09-28-2009, 04:31 PM
damn you put down 322rwhp stock, my buddy put down 301rwhp with a intake and I only put down 285rwhp with intake and catless mids but they said because my check eng light was on that it pulled timing and that was why so low??? idk tho I was pissed lol I get my LT'S and custom catback next weekend then I will go and get it on another dyno this time. Oh and these were on dynojet!

Lol, I was a bit surprised myself.... But i got a bit of a factory freak, There is actually a couple local guys who's goats put down about the same as mine stock vs stock.... With LT's and Tune I put 349/354 lol.... Im not complaining....:nod: Somethings up with your numbers you should be around 315 whp stock...... 285????? Thats way off, 30whp off.........

LS12Fast4U
09-28-2009, 05:20 PM
Im still looking for someone around here to tune and dyno my car. There is a few different places i know that can dyno it but i want to do the tune at the same time.

breze84
09-28-2009, 06:29 PM
Do what i told you, Join over at LS1GTO.com.... Go to the Regional Forums down at the bottom, Go into the North Western section and post up a thread with you question.... Someone will hit you up....

SIC GTO
09-28-2009, 06:41 PM
Yea someone told me that the place I went to was about 30 off and I thought I would be around 315rwhp so idk Im def dyno it after the headers and exhaust go on tho. Oh and I posted for him on ls1gto and got no response lol in his section

Fatbum
09-28-2009, 06:51 PM
Im still looking for someone around here to tune and dyno my car. There is a few different places i know that can dyno it but i want to do the tune at the same time.

Get rid of those flowmasters while your at it, they have been known to cost HP on GTOs. Our stock exhaust flows quite well.


An 03/04 Cobra stock will destroy a LS1 GTO stock with the drivers skill being equal.

LS12Fast4U
09-28-2009, 07:22 PM
They sound great though. I dont see how they take HP away.

01ws666
09-28-2009, 07:46 PM
Here's a good vid I found of an 04 GTO vs. several fast cars, 03/4 cobra, c5 vette, evo 9, sti, and boosted or sprayed 05+ GT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6NVrGd2Ns4

breze84
09-28-2009, 07:55 PM
Get rid of those flowmasters while your at it, they have been known to cost HP on GTOs. Our stock exhaust flows quite well.


An 03/04 Cobra stock will destroy a LS1 GTO stock with the drivers skill being equal.

I agree with ditching the flowmaster's..... As for the cobras vs LS1 GTO stock vs. stock, I wouldnt go as far as saying DESTROY..... I ran a 13.2 stock with a 2.0 60'.... Cobras were rated at 12.8, Not that bid of a difference but they are a tad quicker Stock vs. Stock.... Most of the people who own Cobras cant drive for shit anyways.... I know 4 dudes with cobras in my area all around 19yrs old and think their the shit, But cant drive for shit lol....

SIC GTO
09-28-2009, 10:55 PM
I agree with ditching the flowmaster's..... As for the cobras vs LS1 GTO stock vs. stock, I wouldnt go as far as saying DESTROY..... I ran a 13.2 stock with a 2.0 60'.... Cobras were rated at 12.8, Not that bid of a difference but they are a tad quicker Stock vs. Stock.... Most of the people who own Cobras cant drive for shit anyways.... I know 4 dudes with cobras in my area all around 19yrs old and think their the shit, But cant drive for shit lol....

yep I agree

TungStang07
10-04-2009, 09:45 PM
I agree with ditching the flowmaster's..... As for the cobras vs LS1 GTO stock vs. stock, I wouldnt go as far as saying DESTROY..... I ran a 13.2 stock with a 2.0 60'.... Cobras were rated at 12.8, Not that bid of a difference but they are a tad quicker Stock vs. Stock.... Most of the people who own Cobras cant drive for shit anyways.... I know 4 dudes with cobras in my area all around 19yrs old and think their the shit, But cant drive for shit lol....

From what I've seen, read stock to stock equal drivers, the cobras will pull from a dig, all the way till limiter kicks in. Fastest recorded 1/4 in a stock cobra down to the air filter was a 12.4x they on avg. with a decent driver will do 12.6-12.9s all depending on location, and temperature. Though I'll tell you guys this, you GM boys have not given me as much shit as those ford guys in their cobras and gt's for driving a v6 stang :) lol wasn't my choice, just ended up in it. I may step over to the dark side, and get a GM product. see how it is.... though what motor do you guys prefer? Lt1, ls1, ls2????? I'll be making payments, and don't want anything stupid expensive like a c6Z though that'd be nice!

SIC GTO
10-04-2009, 11:08 PM
From what I've seen, read stock to stock equal drivers, the cobras will pull from a dig, all the way till limiter kicks in. Fastest recorded 1/4 in a stock cobra down to the air filter was a 12.4x they on avg. with a decent driver will do 12.6-12.9s all depending on location, and temperature. Though I'll tell you guys this, you GM boys have not given me as much shit as those ford guys in their cobras and gt's for driving a v6 stang :) lol wasn't my choice, just ended up in it. I may step over to the dark side, and get a GM product. see how it is.... though what motor do you guys prefer? Lt1, ls1, ls2????? I'll be making payments, and don't want anything stupid expensive like a c6Z though that'd be nice!

Ive beat one from a dig twice lol you should get a goat! You can pick up a 04 for a pretty decent price.

patisi
10-05-2009, 12:58 AM
Get rid of those flowmasters while your at it, they have been known to cost HP on GTOs. Our stock exhaust flows quite well.


An 03/04 Cobra stock will destroy a LS1 GTO stock with the drivers skill being equal.

Define destroy. Will an '02 SS Camaro destroy an '04 GTO? I don't know for sure, I kind of feel the LS1 GTO is underrated in the Internet, but not on the track.

breze84
10-05-2009, 07:25 AM
From what I've seen, read stock to stock equal drivers, the cobras will pull from a dig, all the way till limiter kicks in. Fastest recorded 1/4 in a stock cobra down to the air filter was a 12.4x they on avg. with a decent driver will do 12.6-12.9s all depending on location, and temperature. Though I'll tell you guys this, you GM boys have not given me as much shit as those ford guys in their cobras and gt's for driving a v6 stang :) lol wasn't my choice, just ended up in it. I may step over to the dark side, and get a GM product. see how it is.... though what motor do you guys prefer? Lt1, ls1, ls2????? I'll be making payments, and don't want anything stupid expensive like a c6Z though that'd be nice!

I wouldnt really go with the LT1, IMO thats pretty old technology but a capable motor..... I would go with anything that has an LSX, weather it be a LS1/LS6 LS2 ect ect.....

breze84
10-05-2009, 07:34 AM
Define destroy. Will an '02 SS Camaro destroy an '04 GTO? I don't know for sure, I kind of feel the LS1 GTO is underrated in the Internet, but not on the track.

I agree.... IMO, Anything that is rated within .5 sec of a difference at the track by the magazines would be a drivers race, but thats just how i feel.... You gotta figure all these track numbers that Car & Driver, Road & Track ect ect get are all with professional drivers for the most part.... They rated the 04 GTO at 13.7 in the 1/4 but everyone who owns one knows its BS... Like I said I pulled a 13.2 with the factory street tires on a 75* day with a 2.0 60'.... Factroy freak??? Who knows maybe but i speak from personal experience on what i did... Others may say different, From what i can remember i think the bone stock 04 GTO record was a 12.8 or 12.9 but im not a 100% on that, I think the record for the 05/06 was a 12.6 or 12.7......

SIC GTO
10-05-2009, 10:53 AM
I agree.... IMO, Anything that is rated within .5 sec of a difference at the track by the magazines would be a drivers race, but thats just how i feel.... You gotta figure all these track numbers that Car & Driver, Road & Track ect ect get are all with professional drivers for the most part.... They rated the 04 GTO at 13.7 in the 1/4 but everyone who owns one knows its BS... Like I said I pulled a 13.2 with the factory street tires on a 75* day with a 2.0 60'.... Factroy freak??? Who knows maybe but i speak from personal experience on what i did... Others may say different, From what i can remember i think the bone stock 04 GTO record was a 12.8 or 12.9 but im not a 100% on that, I think the record for the 05/06 was a 12.6 or 12.7......

wont destroy but should win I got beat pretty good by a ss but it had more done to it then me and was a auto so he really didnt have to do anything.
But I ran 13.5 on a 101 degree day with shit tires not being able to launch very hard and all I had on the car was c.a.i.

DNTMPME
10-05-2009, 03:10 PM
Well I ran a 13.345@106 in a LS1 GTO and I still had the factory paper filter and stock exhaust... So, I think it just depends on the car and of coarse the driver.

TungStang07
10-05-2009, 04:07 PM
Man, I do like the interior on the gtos.... the outside of them remind me of a overgrown caviler....just saying but as a die hard ford guy i do like how much power they make with such little mods... I can find a stock 03/04 cobra in the range 25-29k depending on the miles.... My co-worker, the one with that purple goat, ran his buddies 00 SS and lost each run... from a dig, a punch, no matter what they did, the SS pulled two cars.... Might I say, the LS1 goat of his has dumped exhaust, k&n filter, and a 6 spd. the SS is completely stock aside from the K&N drop in filter, but even the exhaust is stock running through a auto trans!! do explain this one....

badgoat04
10-05-2009, 04:20 PM
the 2010 stangs are a slow roller my goat is litely modded and i slaughtered one about a week ago.

TungStang07
10-05-2009, 04:46 PM
the 2010 stangs are a slow roller my goat is litely modded and i slaughtered one about a week ago.


eh.... intake, exhaust, tune..... to what a stock 10' stang? I hope you'd get the win.. they're rated I believe 13.6 stock... some where in that range. You being tuned makes hell of a difference.

breze84
10-05-2009, 05:41 PM
Man, I do like the interior on the gtos.... the outside of them remind me of a overgrown caviler....just saying but as a die hard ford guy i do like how much power they make with such little mods... I can find a stock 03/04 cobra in the range 25-29k depending on the miles.... My co-worker, the one with that purple goat, ran his buddies 00 SS and lost each run... from a dig, a punch, no matter what they did, the SS pulled two cars.... Might I say, the LS1 goat of his has dumped exhaust, k&n filter, and a 6 spd. the SS is completely stock aside from the K&N drop in filter, but even the exhaust is stock running through a auto trans!! do explain this one....

I think you buddie with the Goat needs a Driver Mod... Im pretty sure the 00 SS uses the shitty 853 casting heads and LS1 intake.... The 04 GTO uses the not that much, but better 241 casting heads and LS6 intake.... Driver mod for sure....

EricT
10-06-2009, 03:20 PM
http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

TungStang07
10-07-2009, 11:51 AM
I think you buddie with the Goat needs a Driver Mod... Im pretty sure the 00 SS uses the shitty 853 casting heads and LS1 intake.... The 04 GTO uses the not that much, but better 241 casting heads and LS6 intake.... Driver mod for sure....


I was thinking driver mod too.... possibly power to weight ratio but even than... his excuse for the losses was the throws..... he says he needs a short throw shifter. And I say, excuses are like assholes, everyone has one. ^-^

DNTMPME
10-07-2009, 12:06 PM
I was thinking driver mod too.... possibly power to weight ratio but even than... his excuse for the losses was the throws..... he says he needs a short throw shifter. And I say, excuses are like assholes, everyone has one. ^-^

and they all stink...


As for the 00 SS beating a GTO that bad? Might be a fender ahead, or maybe even front tire to rear tire...but with both cars having good drivers and those mods...the GTO will hang and eventually overtake at around 4th gear... GTO have a more agressive gearing in the transmission to help compensate for the weight...I believe its the same as the Z06...

TungStang07
10-07-2009, 01:52 PM
and they all stink...


As for the 00 SS beating a GTO that bad? Might be a fender ahead, or maybe even front tire to rear tire...but with both cars having good drivers and those mods...the GTO will hang and eventually overtake at around 4th gear... GTO have a more agressive gearing in the transmission to help compensate for the weight...I believe its the same as the Z06...

So basically, my co-worker(service manger) who runs his mouth a lot about beating this and that.... just can't simply drive...unlike what he claims. He said he lost by half a car to an 04 mach 1 that had headers, tune, intake, exhaust. Half a car? hmm...

TungStang07
10-07-2009, 01:55 PM
and they all stink...


As for the 00 SS beating a GTO that bad? Might be a fender ahead, or maybe even front tire to rear tire...but with both cars having good drivers and those mods...the GTO will hang and eventually overtake at around 4th gear... GTO have a more agressive gearing in the transmission to help compensate for the weight...I believe its the same as the Z06...



+1 +1 +1 Man, I seen that blue the other day on another goat, with smoked tail lights...all I could think was dammmmmn!