Eastern Members - Finally pulled the motor

The Red Rocket is starting to get done.Sold the old motor complete.Next plan is to clean up the engine bay and have it painted.Then the motor will go in.

Motor so far is a 427ci C5R block with Dragonslayer crank,Compstar rods and Wiesco pistons. All built by Shawn at Virginia Speed. The top end is a set of ETP 225 heads which Rich at WCCH has been working on for a few months.They got 2.125" intake valves and 1.57" exhaust.From what I've heard they are about 230-235cc not and flow 360-370cfm at just under .650lift which is better than what they were.Compression will be 11.8-1,Cam is a custom near 250 duration and the intake so far will be a Edelbrok Victor Junior(ported) with an Intake Elbow at 102mm.

Tranny-I'm planning to send my level 5 FLT tranny back to get hardened shafts and a look over,the converter is going to Yank to have it tightened up(now SS4000).

The fuel system will get a new intank pump,hot wire kit and 60lb injectors.

So,thats my plan that everybody keeps asking for. The car is still planned to be my daily driver like it always has been.The goal is to hit ATCO this winter and get some stupidly fast timeslip and hopefully just detune it to run the 10.5 class next year.(don't want a 10 point in my DD car)

cool.. should fly !

Awesome Don,
I knew you wouldn't be satisfied with an 11.5 car for long :devil:. (Is this a brandy new block or are you touching up one lying around?)

Should be a pretty slick setup I wouldn't be surprised if you were running high 9's with it if you were pushing it. But having a super streetable 10.5 N/A car will be awesome. The specs on those heads look pretty damn sweet too. Keep us posted.

If intentions change with the Yank converter let me know!

sounds like a nice set up. is your suspention already all done?

ps, under the hood of a stock car looks like hell. lol

did you pull it from the top or just put the k member back in?

nice lookin' bullet :D

nice lookin' bullet :D

I'm glad someone didn't steel it down there:angel:

I'm glad someone didn't steel it down there:angel:

its was a nice lookin' bullet riding in the back of my pickup :D

sounds like a nice set up. is your suspention already all done?

I got the basic midwest 9 with short torque arm,LCA,PH and track bar.Stock shocks/springs and they are not getting touched.Car hooks easy 1.52's,even on 17" Nitto's. I might do a K-member to cut some weight.

Don't want this car to ride like a race car.Right now it's nice.

did you pull it from the top or just put the k member back in?

From the top.

Do the k member and a arms. trust me. even if its not for weight reduction it makes the car run cool, easy to work on, easy to mess with headers, easy to do anything!! trust me on that, its one of the best mods in a car if you have the coin to do it. it doesnt do much for performance or what not, but a great mod.

my car has stock springs still so they wont hold you back

looks pretty killer!

Looking good Don!:D

Looks good Don.

Awesome! I can't wait to see this thing up and running!

what rockers will you be using?

hydrolic roller correct? watch the comp lifters. i colapsed mine with the old 650 cam i had at first. they would colaps at the top of the track around the 7,000 rpm range

Nice!! It will be interesting to watch the post as the car is built:D

what rockers will you be using?

hydrolic roller correct? watch the comp lifters. i colapsed mine with the old 650 cam i had at first. they would colaps at the top of the track around the 7,000 rpm range

Hydrolic roller at .630 lift or so.It will have a 6800rpm rev limiter.Probly stock rockers -after I check the angle's to verify.No crazy spring pressure's.

This is mostly built for the street.

should be bad ass Don.



BTW-that is a pretty motor you got there:D

How do I miss all this cool stuff when I am at the shop? I need to get Ed to show me around a little bit.

should be bad ass Don.



BTW-that is a pretty motor you got there:D

The wife liked the pics you sent with the motor:nod:

You should sell me this motor ;)

The wife liked the pics you sent with the motor:nod:

you mean the pics of the 2 things i like best in life:D

Hydrolic roller at .630 lift or so.It will have a 6800rpm rev limiter.Probly stock rockers -after I check the angle's to verify.No crazy spring pressure's.

This is mostly built for the street.

I ran stock rockers all the way till i went solid roller. and when i say stock, i mean the same ones from when the car was new. so they had 30,000 street miles then everything else. i ran them with a .600+ cam with no issues and spun it over 7k. never broke a rocker till i did the cheep harland sharps which i broke 5 of them so far!!! they are cracking in the shafts. spoke to a few others who have the same problem and replace them with jessle or t+d and issue is all gone.
im spinning the solid to 8,300 tho..

i would sugest moral lifters tho as i said, mine had an issue with the comp ones with the .600+ cam did another motor with .600 plus with morals and no issue.
have 2 street cars running now with .60x cams with stock lifters spinning 6500-7,000 with no issues. comp ones just didnt work after 7,000

I agree. Harlands are,well,pretty much junk.Luckilly I have my hands in alot of motors throughout the years. Morels fail too. Alot of cars rev to 7000rpm but alot are floating then too,expecially with an aftermarket-heavier-rocker.My old dynojet wouldn't pick it up but the new load dyno does. The problem with stock rockers is that they can side load the valves which wears down the guides.Alot of times you have to shim up the stock rockers to get rid of the problem.Within the last year we've pulled a few heads that the guides were gone.Such heads as AFR and TFS will show this problem,the main reason TFS recommends a roller rocker.

I agree. Harlands are,well,pretty much junk.Luckilly I have my hands in alot of motors throughout the years. Morels fail too. Alot of cars rev to 7000rpm but alot are floating then too,expecially with an aftermarket-heavier-rocker.My old dynojet wouldn't pick it up but the new load dyno does. The problem with stock rockers is that they can side load the valves which wears down the guides.Alot of times you have to shim up the stock rockers to get rid of the problem.Within the last year we've pulled a few heads that the guides were gone.Such heads as AFR and TFS will show this problem,the main reason TFS recommends a roller rocker.

very true, i had mine shimmed on my 346 and my 402 as well as my lsx befor it was solid. i forget now how much i had to shim them. i wanna say it was 30 tho, but i forget now.

If this engine is at the shop on the 24th you better cover it with plastic sheeting to keep the drool off! :drool:

You ready to sell me the blue car yet? BTW, how far along is that blue car?:burn: WJ

If this engine is at the shop on the 24th you better cover it with plastic sheeting to keep the drool off! :drool:

better yet, maybe it will be up and running for a dyno pull

Nice Don you don't waste time that is for sure! I am sure it'll screw once your done putting it together and wj brings up a good point what's up with the blue car?

You ready to sell me the blue car yet? BTW, how far along is that blue car?:burn: WJ

Better hurry up.Probly be sold next week.

put that motor in the blue car!!

put that motor in the blue car!!

Now there's an idea :)

Update,the car is collecting dust while I'm collecting parts.Heads will be here next week.Got a new oil pan setup,valve covers ect coming,wanted new for powdercoating.Got a set of truck coils with brackets/harnesses. Tranny is going back to FLT for them to look it over and do hardened shafts.Converter is going back to Yank to be restalled/checked over.

So,alot of stuff moving but not in the car yet.

Nice, wish stuff was moving on my car!! haha Can't wait to see it up and back in action. Did you hear the news about QS, its not being run by Rick anymore and it may be visiting other tracks next season....

put that motor in the blue car!!

:chug::judge:

Nice, wish stuff was moving on my car!! haha Can't wait to see it up and back in action. Did you hear the news about QS, its not being run by Rick anymore and it may be visiting other tracks next season....

Yes Richie is going to do specialty events on the east coast. Him and Nate Prichett are going to be working together on a few events. I'm excited about that. I'm thinking of setting my car up for 275 radial.

any 1320x events gonna come to NED?

any 1320x events gonna come to NED?

Yes that is what they are working on with Nate.

Yes that is what they are working on with Nate.

thats would be awesome. i believe NED does need a jump start. and i think if the Pinks crew or even the 1320x crew come in it will be just what the doctor ordered!

i would like to see a Pinks all out at NED within the next couple seasons. the track def has the capacity for it.

You won't see Pinks at NED because Dodge will not allow it, that's what I heard.

You won't see Pinks at NED because Dodge will not allow it, that's what I heard.

what does Dodge have to do with it?:confused:

Dodge is the track sponsor

why wouldnt dodge want pinks all out at NED sounds idiotic to me. i mean the tv time is great advertising.

from what i have heard its the pinks people who dont want to come to NED

Why is this on my car build thread?

because it came up in convo.

get more work done so we can talk about the motor....get the heads yet??

Why is this on my car build thread?

:hijack:

Back from the dead.Been busy.Got the engine in the car.;)

Time to whip out the saws-all for that intake!! :D

looks like you got alot of cutting to do

I'm going to measure it up tomorrow.Only thing is the wipers have to work since I drive in the rain.

Looks very nice in there!

Looking good Don. What are you going to do for a hood?

Hmm, i think i saw this already.....

i think you should sell me the super and just go with a fast :)

i think you should sell me the super and just go with a fast :)

Might happen.Will know later today.

looks good Don. got your message. I am going to try and get down in two weeks with the truck.

Back from the dead.Been busy.Got the engine in the car.;)
Wow Looks bad ass.:drool: That car went from stock to a BEAST pretty quick.

any news on the super vic fit? are you gonna run an elbow or a top mount tb? either way that thing is way tighter than i hoped it would be. is the vic jr much shorter?

vic jr is probably close to 1 3/4" shorter, you could mill it down though

Hmm, Should i run a short header and a tall intake or just the opposite.:secret2:

The intake fit's fine.I'm keeping the wipers no problem.Now I need to get my 105mm TB and have an intake elbow made bigger than the 90mm one I have now.

The intake fit's fine.I'm keeping the wipers no problem.Now I need to get my 105mm TB and have an intake elbow made bigger than the 90mm one I have now.

thats good news:burn: i'm hoping to do the same but not sure on an elbow or a 4150 top mount.

thats good news:burn: i'm hoping to do the same but not sure on an elbow or a 4150 top mount.


Only thing I don't like about the 4150 is that there is no way to put on a decent filter and you lose the windshield wipers.Here are some pics with the 90.My plan is to have a bigger 90 made for more volume and to fit the 105mm TB.

The pics.

Looking good Don. I can only imagine what will be done to the hood though.

Only thing I don't like about the 4150 is that there is no way to put on a decent filter and you lose the windshield wipers.Here are some pics with the 90.My plan is to have a bigger 90 made for more volume and to fit the 105mm TB.

that looks very nice. how much do you think the elbow will hold you back? i've been back and forth over which way to go and like you said i'm not into losing the wipers. any details on the elbow and mods to the hood?

Well we found out it depends on what elbow you use, we had a edlebrock elbow on my motor at first, we switched to the aarons elbow and gained 90 RWHP. I think the setup I had I wouldn't have gained much more with the 4150 style TB. It was good enough to run 10.20s in a 3250lb car

that looks very nice. how much do you think the elbow will hold you back? i've been back and forth over which way to go and like you said i'm not into losing the wipers. any details on the elbow and mods to the hood?

I look as the elbow being the plenum.This is why I'm going with one bigger for now.

As Krazy stated,yes it's true on the gain.I couldn't believe it but noticed the change right away.

I look as the elbow being the plenum.This is why I'm going with one bigger for now.

As Krazy stated,yes it's true on the gain.I couldn't believe it but noticed the change right away.

well i'm looking to run either a vic jr or super vic. i'm under the impression that the super vic is more of what i need(rpm range). my original plan was to run it with a top mount but like you already said wipers and a decent air filter as big issues. after seeing the pics of the super on your car i'm thinking that and a good elbow will be my best best. what kind of clearancing did you have to do to the hood? is the elbow a custom deal from Aarons or a shelf model? your build came at a perfect time for me. seeing it done makes it easier for me:)

well i'm looking to run either a vic jr or super vic. i'm under the impression that the super vic is more of what i need(rpm range). my original plan was to run it with a top mount but like you already said wipers and a decent air filter as big issues. after seeing the pics of the super on your car i'm thinking that and a good elbow will be my best best. what kind of clearancing did you have to do to the hood? is the elbow a custom deal from Aarons or a shelf model? your build came at a perfect time for me. seeing it done makes it easier for me:)

Looks like the hood will have to cut through the top.Won't really know till we are ready for the hood.Mind you I have a stock(flat) hood.It would clear no problem with a ram air hood(with cutting the bottom out)

That elbow is off the shelf but the new one will be alittle custom.

well keep posting pics, it's a really clean car. i have a cowl hood so clearance should be fine here. when you get an elbow you like make sure you get 2 and send me one:secret:

Looks badasss . I cant imagine that thing on the street with streetish tires. Cant wait to see what it puts down.

Inspiration, I mean you never know with you :)

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1084&pictureid=6177

Do it Don!!! 1000 rwhp woohoo!!!

Inspiration, I mean you never know with you :)

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1084&pictureid=6177

How did you know my race car is back in the shop.;)

Here is a shot of the new TB next to a 90mm one.

mmmmm big TB

Inspiration, I mean you never know with you :)

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1084&pictureid=6177

Wow this motor in the racecar ! :hump:

Wow this motor in the racecar ! :hump:

He wishes. Not that one anyways. :D

He wishes. Not that one anyways. :D

The race car is pretty much sold -just waiting for it to be picked up.

The race car is pretty much sold -just waiting for it to be picked up.

I predict the new car will be a single digit car before too long...if it isn't already that is...

very cool

daily driven C5R/9inch Fbod, should scare the liberals in MA

Look awsome Don. Ill be coming up to visit on Dec28th. I might have to come on by and check it out. I still havent even been inside the new shop yet.

Been some time but here is some updated pics.My elbows will be in next week,so it should be running soon.

Looks even better in person Don! Thanks again for the coils. I'm sure the new parts I picked up from you will make for a fun project. :chug:

See you in the spring for a new tune. :D

Here it is all together.Still have to make an inlet.

man thats a rad setup. :nod:
Can't wait to see this thing in person.

Here it is all together.Still have to make an inlet.

Whats your goal this this setup?

Whats your goal this this setup?

Drive everyday. Looking for a high 9 second pass on a good day and then run the 10.5 class next year.

Drive everyday. Looking for a high 9 second pass on a good day and then run the 10.5 class next year.

Nice, looking at the motor and trans setup, that thing will drive awesome on the street. 9 second NA DD ftw. Congrats.

Ehh looks slow......

Haha. I gotta swing by there and pick up a remote bleeder line from you soon. I'll have to check it out up close

Looks great Don! I see the pics were taken on the dyno..... how did the 1/4 times come in? I'm guessing in the 9's. :D

What did you say you're doing for a hood?

Looks great Don! I see the pics were taken on the dyno..... how did the 1/4 times come in? I'm guessing in the 9's. :D

What did you say you're doing for a hood?

It was on the dyno for break in. Made a few pulls and didn't like the power curve.It was going to peak at 8k rpm which was to high for me.So,new Cam coming which should bring the peak way down.Should idle nice on a 110LSA and installed at 106LSA:D