Formulals187

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I am looking to finally cam my 2000 Formula and I am really interested in the Texas Speed 233/239 camshaft. I am trying to get opinions from people that already have this cam in daily driven cars. I live in Houston and was curious how livable this cam could be with a good tune and possibly any fuel mileage that people get. I have an A4 car with a stall, gears, under driven, LS6 intake, and 1 7/8 headers; with cam only and tune would it be possible to lay down 390 RWHP? Do I need double springs? Hows the power/torque curve and off the line?

Red99TA

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I had the version 1 TSP 233/239 in my M6 T/A and it was very livable as a DD. I never had the best driveability tune in it so it would buck decently at light throttle/low rpm situations plus the rpms would dip with the A/C on but most of that is fixable with a good tune. With LS6 intake, ported TB, UD pulley, pacesetter LT's, ORY, and cutout it made right at 398 RWHP but like 360 RWTQ (on a mail-order tune at the time that was VERY lean). Being a stalled auto might make it a little harder to hit numbers that high but I bet you'll be close. It really ripped from 4K on up to 6600. Also you don't need dual springs. I ran comp 918's for about 12K miles before selling the car. I would just recommend checking one every 10K miles or so.

SOMbitch

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The lift on that cam is .595/.603 IIRC so a 918 will work. IMO duals or PAC 1518 would be better......

sscamaroburn02

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i run that cam and use the car only on weekends. car drives great and does buck a little bit on real low rpm's but this cam really rips from about 4k on up to 6600. I have it on a 113lsa and has a nice lope to it. I always get compliments on my car. The gas mileage is about the same as stock as long as my foot stays out of the throttle. I would recommend a good tune to keep it very driveable for your DD. I'm up in the Conroe area if you ever wanna swing by and hear it. Just let me know.

Red99TA

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FWIW on a better tune and with a 90/90 setup it made 427RWHP/380RWTQ (stock '99 heads)

Formulals187

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Is there a better cam that pulls hard in the mid rpms 2500-4000 but still could get me in the upper 380-390 rwhp? since mines an automatic im slightly concerned that it pulling that hard in the upper rpms might be a bit of a waste.

twitchtwice

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i wouldnt say its a waste. what size stall do you have. i have an edge 3200 and between shifts my car never drops below 4500 so it would be right in the power band of said cam.

Formulals187

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Its got a 3200 stall with 3.73 gears

MattxFatal

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Go with something with a lower LSA to bring that powerband down some.
This will help.

racecar

I love this cam, but I would not use it for a DD. On the race track it rocks 3000-6600.
It is a bit of a beast for a street driver. For a car that is driven in traffic I would go to a 224 intake duration.

02*C5

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Try the AZPS02 from flow tech 235/241 614/614 112+2 LSA and runs good from 3Krpm to 7K in my LS1 (5.7L) from flow tech and I am at 453 rwhp 422 torque through a stage4 RPM 4L60E 3400 vigi stall 243 heads ( advanced induction chd) and 3.42 gears. I do have a full set up though intake exhaust 90/90 injector the whole thing. I have a great tuner and he did a hell of a job on her. She drives grate.

good luck

Formulals187

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What about the TSP 228R would that possibly get me around the power I want, or what about custom grinding a cam, what specs would get me the power I want and the livability I would like

02*C5

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With the set up you have you should be around the 410/390 mark with that cam. If you go with a custom grind a guy on another board had a 228/232 113 was making 420/400. Make sure to get the 243 heads they will help out a lot.

Formulals187

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I don't have the budget for heads thats why I'm trying to get a good enough cam to push 390 or better.

Sales2@Texas-speed

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There are plenty of folks out there pushing high 300's and low 400's cam only with the same basic combo and stall you have. For your combo, I'd go with the 228R camshaft or TorquerV2 instead of the 233/239. Those will retain better street manners and area under the torque curve, while still getting you that peak HP number you're wanting. For these you could get away with the PAC 1218's (.600" lift beehives) or for a longer spring maintenance interval the PRC dual spring kit would do the trick! Let us know if we can help!

MattxFatal

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That's actually where I'm at right now.
I'm pretty set on picking one of the these cams for what I'm after.
I really like what I have seen with the 228R, but that V2 is very impressive on the top end, for what it puts out on the low end.

Formulals187

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With the 228R cam would a new set of pushrods be needed, would double valve springs be a bad idea to invest in?

desertLS1

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For a cam Install it is required to change your Springs AND Pushrods.
Try looking at the VRX3 or VRX4 from vengeance racing. both very good street mannered cams with great power under the curve.

Formulals187

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Which would be better between the TSP 228R cam and the Torquer v2 cam?

Formulals187

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Do either of those cams need larger than stock injectors?