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Old 10-08-2009, 10:39 PM
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Default How long will my tranny hold up? 2 options..

well since my motor/tranny is out i wanna mod the tranny. its a 4l60e out of a 01 ws6 t/a. i have a couple of options. it's on a 500HP range Ls1

A) 4K Stall, Shift Kit, Trans Cooler. see what happens with the stock tranny
B) wait, buy a built tranny, 4k stall, and cooler.
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id say around 500 hp and 4k stall ud be at the limit of ur stock 4l60e.. look up a performa built or flt.. doing one this year for sure
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Sell your working trans and use the money to put towards a built one. You are gonna need it.

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go with option B. wait till you have the funds to get a strong properly built tranny and a good converter. if i could do it all over again, after doing bolt ons like lid, headers, catback, i would have spent the money on a strong tranny and a 12 bolt.
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sounds like a good plan. how much do you think i can get out of my A4 with 30,1xx miles on it? selling with stock torque converter and flexplate..
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Im new to the a4, but from what I have researched, it mainly depends on driving habits. If you do not routinely beat the **** out of it, option (a) will be fine. Anything else option (b). Im will be installing a fti 3800 nitrous converter on the stock 13k mi a4. Only going to be spraying a 100 shot for now. Should be around 500hp, but I will not be spraying all the time. Plus I drive the car easy.
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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
Im new to the a4, but from what I have researched, it mainly depends on driving habits. If you do not routinely beat the **** out of it, option (a) will be fine. Anything else option (b). Im will be installing a fti 3800 nitrous converter on the stock 13k mi a4. Only going to be spraying a 100 shot for now. Should be around 500hp, but I will not be spraying all the time. Plus I drive the car easy.
i'll wait and see what happens with you. lol.
i don't beat the **** outta it. it rarely gets drivin only on the weekends and gets stored for winter.
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I went with option A, but with a 3600 it only lasted 500 miles, tranny felt strong before the stall, but it couldnt take the extra strain and heat from the stall. So go with option B cause waiting to see what happens will cost you a perfectly good converter. when the tranny comes apart it will destroy the new stall too.
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Originally Posted by Fast Bird
I went with option A, but with a 3600 it only lasted 500 miles, tranny felt strong before the stall, but it couldnt take the extra strain and heat from the stall. So go with option B cause waiting to see what happens will cost you a perfectly good converter. when the tranny comes apart it will destroy the new stall too.
i meant wait to see what happens with him lol, and yeah i know. so how much can i get out of my A4 w/30,1xx miles on it?
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wait and save.... I put 3800 sall on a sock tranny, it lasted a year or so before it gernated, it also had 125k miles on
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i put a 3200 on my stock tranny. i had a shift kit installed and also had the tranny shop look over the bands and inspect everything and he said everything was good. right now its shifting like a dream and hasnt given me any issues. but ive only put about 100 miles on the car since i put the stall in since i rarely drive the car.
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good deal guys. thanks for the input.
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my thing is this, if your really concerned about it holding up, then wait till you save enough to get a strong built tranny. no point to keep dumping money on go fast parts without having a strong tranny to back it up.
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sounds like a plan
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Originally Posted by Fast Bird
I went with option A, but with a 3600 it only lasted 500 miles, tranny felt strong before the stall, but it couldnt take the extra strain and heat from the stall. So go with option B cause waiting to see what happens will cost you a perfectly good converter. when the tranny comes apart it will destroy the new stall too.
Did you install a tranny cooler? What was the mileage? How did the fluid look before the stall? I have talked to a few stall companies and they all say its not the converter that takes the trans out, its the guy behind the wheel. Also a incorrectly installed converter will destroy the trans pump fast.
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Originally Posted by 01wssick
i meant wait to see what happens with him lol
On another note, My car only has boltons, it only puts 340-350whp. I will not be spraying all the time, so not the same variables. If your tranny has not broke yet why would it? Yes the converter adds heat, but a cooler addresses that. A shift kit will firm the shifts, yet reducing tranny temps further. Try a search lol.

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The cheaper is to buy a built tranny now and sell yours.

I bought the FLT stage 5 for my shop car with a SS4000 last spring.Daily drove it about 8-10k miles and raced a 11.5 class up here(probly 40-50passes) without one problem.Alot better than being stuck somewhere with a blown tranny.
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^Thats a good point.
Op, just want to clarify that Im not saying the stock tranny is the way to go at all. Obviously if the cash is there buy a built tranny and sell yours. If I had the cash, I would buy a built a4 now. But I got to good of a deal on my nitrous setup and converter to pass up. So Im rolling wit the stock tranny until the mod funds re-up! My point was, if cash is tight,
you can get by on the stock tranny. there plenty running the stock a4 stalled on 500hp and living.

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Originally Posted by kinglt-1
Did you install a tranny cooler? What was the mileage? How did the fluid look before the stall? I have talked to a few stall companies and they all say its not the converter that takes the trans out, its the guy behind the wheel. Also a incorrectly installed converter will destroy the trans pump fast.
yes i installed a tranny cooler with a fan on it, car had 126k on it, changed tranny fluid and filter, fluid wasnt too bad when drained, after 3600 stall only made about 500 miles when i pulled the tranny it had a gm remanufacture tag on it, not shure how many miles were on the new tranny though, but it didn't last.

Look on perform built trans web sight. there are questions and answsers on there, one of them is will a stall break my stock transmission, and read the answer from the tech person, he says yes the stress load the stall will put on the transmission will far exceed the design limmits of the stock transmission. in so many words but read it for your self because im not quoting here.
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Originally Posted by Fast Bird
yes i installed a tranny cooler with a fan on it, car had 126k on it, changed tranny fluid and filter, fluid wasnt too bad when drained, after 3600 stall only made about 500 miles when i pulled the tranny it had a gm remanufacture tag on it, not shure how many miles were on the new tranny though, but it didn't last.

Look on perform built trans web sight. there are questions and answsers on there, one of them is will a stall break my stock transmission, and read the answer from the tech person, he says yes the stress load the stall will put on the transmission will far exceed the design limmits of the stock transmission. in so many words but read it for your self because im not quoting here.
Thats good info! as said before, Im new to the a4, but I see so many pushin it's "limits". Sorry did not mean as if you were in the wrong for your tranny failure. Just asking questions. It seems that some get away with running the stock a4 others don't. A built tranny is probably the best way to go for sure. I might hold off installing my fti 3800 now lol... until the cash is available for the built tranny.



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