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Old 10-21-2009, 07:59 PM
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hmm, feels like i've asked this before, but i couldnt find anything....

header primaries size... now, i realize most everyone here is going to say "go big or go home" so 1 7/8" seems to be the way to go the have 'room to grow.'

my car will see the track maybe 3 times a year and it needs to be a DD, chances are, it will never see above 500hp.... are 1 7/8" primaries really needed? or would i be more than fine with the 1 3/4" ? i can't justify spending so much more for the size if i'll never really need it...
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1 3/4" will do just fine. Unless your going stroker and forced induction, they will more than suffice.
Now obviously if we're talking long tubes or shorties, long tubes all the way. Make sure you either get O2 extensions or Bosch13111 (I've done both and had problems with neither one), new metal OEM gaskets and get those rear O2s tuned out so you can pass emissions by eliminating the SES light.
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is there a decent set of stainless headers that can be had for under 500$ that are emissions-legal?
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lpp, they have there stainless on sale right now, hvmc and have great fit. oh and there a sponsor on here...

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...hing-sale.html
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they are race headers tho arent they? i'm looking for the ones that have emissions, EGR, AIR, O2 and whathaveyou...
forgive my ignorance, it wasn't in the acronyms.... what's HWMC?
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hvmc sorry i fixed it, its a high velocity merge collector. basically it collects the gas from the primaries more effeciently. and a velocity spike in the collector, you just have to look at it to see what i mean...
anyway, only high end $800 or more headers are stainless and hvmc, but these are half that... its just a good deal, and delete emissions....
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if you're referring to things like a merge spike, i know how that works...

is tehre anything that can go wrong that only the emissions can detect? idc about legal for the most part, just wanting to make sure everything stays safe.... what all is deleted? EGR, AIR, is it rear AND front O2's?

EDIT: jus did some searching and looking around.... so, i can still do cats and all that jazz without the AIR, EGR, and REAR O2s correct? and this will not effect anything, performance-wise, correct? is so, then i'll be jumpin on the LPPs!

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oh gah keep your front o2s, car cant control itself properly without those, everything else is garbage.. the air pump heats cats up so u may throw a cat or o2 code, but if you have it tuned out (u need to tune it anyway) it wont matter...
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p.s. hope you realize you gotta buy a new y pipe if u put longtubes on... lpp has them on sale too tho
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yes i realzed that, i'm gonna go the TDs route if at all possible, needa find a good shop thatll do the over-the-axle piping...
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pheer i don't think you need to worry about egr, your 2002 motor shouldn't have it.
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lol, yeah i read about that after i posted




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