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Mr.z/28
11-01-2009, 01:37 AM
So I saw this vid in youtube. I love the sound it makes, his exhaust setup. the only difference is instead of a y pipe, Im going x pipe to turn it into duals. I searched in summit racing for the flowmaster chamber 1 exhaust, but a different name appears, example, flowmaster delta force one chamber race mufflers. can anyone tell me which specific muffler it is?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqjz_22SGVU


allan808
11-01-2009, 03:34 AM
just watched that vid on youtube..crazy

Mr.z/28
11-01-2009, 03:46 AM
just watched that vid on youtube..crazy

I know right. I like it as well. reason im sticking to that setup is because I live here in cali. so yea.
I mean, Im definately gonna go for the Pacesetter LTs, High flow cats, and a x pipe, but Im trying to figure out which chamber 1 exhaust is this. I think theres 3 different ones.
any other recommendations would be fine.


91RS383
11-02-2009, 08:14 AM
I live here in cali. so yea.
I mean, Im definately gonna go for the Pacesetter LTs, High flow cats, and...


In cali you can not legally change the cats from OEM or move them from the OEM location (ex. LTs). I'm not trying to bust your balls, but before you spend the cash make sure you have a place that will fudge your inspection or you'll have one sweet garage queen.

91RS383
11-02-2009, 08:17 AM
Oh and I'm pretty sure the muffler you're talking about is the delta.

ShadowCat
11-02-2009, 12:11 PM
Kinda sounds like my Borla... why not just get a decent sounding exhaust, and then put a electric cutout on it? I did that with my Borla adjustable, I have a QTP electric cut out where the adjustable plate goes on the Borla setup. I can run loud or louder depending on a flip of a switch.

Mr.z/28
11-02-2009, 07:14 PM
Sick. I love cutouts. well I want pacesetter LTs. So your saying I cant move em. then what do I do If I want to run Pacesetter LTs?
Well I want a sick legal exhaust setup.
Pacesetter Lts.
High Flow cats.
x pipe, cutouts, and duals. I saw this other vid which I really really liked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XiT1RZ13Y

ae13291
11-02-2009, 07:45 PM
Sick. I love cutouts. well I want pacesetter LTs. So your saying I cant move em. then what do I do If I want to run Pacesetter LTs?
Well I want a sick legal exhaust setup.
Pacesetter Lts.
High Flow cats.
x pipe, cutouts, and duals. I saw this other vid which I really really liked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2XiT1RZ13Y

if u want pacesetter LT's those are ilegal in california, the only thing you can do is shorties. but what i would do is get the LT's and get some cats put on (make sure there OBDII cats) and then when you take it for smog im sure the guy wont do the under body inspection to see where the cats are placed, most of those guys are lazy anyway

Mr.z/28
11-02-2009, 10:21 PM
if u want pacesetter LT's those are ilegal in california, the only thing you can do is shorties. but what i would do is get the LT's and get some cats put on (make sure there OBDII cats) and then when you take it for smog im sure the guy wont do the under body inspection to see where the cats are placed, most of those guys are lazy anyway

oh ok. I see. well they guy I took it too last time, just opened the hood, and read the sticker, thats about it. nothing else. but um. if pacesetter lts are not legal in LA, then what other option do i have when it comes to another header thats the same as pacesetter. I really like pacesetter. do you know where I can find information on the OBDII cats?

mediocrels1
11-03-2009, 03:50 AM
oh ok. I see. well they guy I took it too last time, just opened the hood, and read the sticker, thats about it. nothing else. but um. if pacesetter lts are not legal in LA, then what other option do i have when it comes to another header thats the same as pacesetter. I really like pacesetter. do you know where I can find information on the OBDII cats?

long tubes in general are illegal. brand has no bearing on legality.

rcastillo002
11-03-2009, 05:07 AM
If u are thinking about lts than say bye to "smog legal" if ur gonna get lts than don't even bother with the cats...find out if someone can "hook you up" on the smog thing before u spend ur money on lts... I wouldn't even bother with shorties... They are expensive for how lil hp u get... If u don't mind spending about 1000 dollars on some smog legal headers.... I THINK the slp longtubes might be smog legal in some states... Not sure about here in ca...but they are 1000 bucks....so.... Yeah... Just my .2 cents

streetassasin
11-03-2009, 05:42 AM
Sick. I love cutouts. well I want pacesetter LTs. So your saying I cant move em. then what do I do If I want to run Pacesetter LTs?
Well I want a sick legal exhaust setup.
Pacesetter Lts.
High Flow cats.
x pipe, cutouts, and duals. I saw this other vid which I really really liked.


This is what dual cutouts sound like, I had to close them cause I got pulled over for being too loud


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n257/streetassasin/th_soundclip.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n257/streetassasin/?action=view&current=soundclip.flv)

RPM WS6
11-03-2009, 08:48 AM
Well I want a sick legal exhaust setup.

There are no good "legal" setups. It is against federal EPA regs to ever move the cats from the stock location, so technically, no matter where you live, LTs are illegal on these cars.

But the good news is, most states don't give a shit, and USEPA inspectors will never come to check your car out.

CA inspections are intense compared to what we get in IL. Here, '96+ cars get a quick OBD scan; no sniffer, no visual of any kind. If you pass the scan, you pass the test...cats or not. '95 and earlier cars are exempt from any sort of testing.

ShadowCat
11-03-2009, 08:56 AM
Florida has no inspection... they stopped it in the early 80's...

streetassasin
11-03-2009, 01:11 PM
There are no good "legal" setups. It is against federal EPA regs to ever move the cats from the stock location, so technically, no matter where you live, LTs are illegal on these cars.

But the good news is, most states don't give a shit, and USEPA inspectors will never come to check your car out.

CA inspections are intense compared to what we get in IL. Here, '96+ cars get a quick OBD scan; no sniffer, no visual of any kind. If you pass the scan, you pass the test...cats or not. '95 and earlier cars are exempt from any sort of testing.

Theres a certain place down here where all you need is your insurance card :jest:

Mr.z/28
11-03-2009, 02:18 PM
This is what dual cutouts sound like, I had to close them cause I got pulled over for being too loud


http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n257/streetassasin/th_soundclip.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n257/streetassasin/?action=view&current=soundclip.flv)

damn! your car is loud. I would of pulled you over as well. lol.
but My engine is stock. I dont think it would be loud as yours if I do that.
so no headers are legal in cali then?

mediocrels1
11-03-2009, 02:38 PM
damn! your car is loud. I would of pulled you over as well. lol.
but My engine is stock. I dont think it would be loud as yours if I do that.
so no headers are legal in cali then?

just shorties. you can always get lts and remove them every 2 years for smog lol

Mr.z/28
11-03-2009, 03:34 PM
just shorties. you can always get lts and remove them every 2 years for smog lol

I should do something like that.
the reason I prefer Lts is because alot of people in here say that shorties arent worth the money, and performance wise as well.
I thought that by installing LTs, and high flow cats you should be able to pass smog. I guess not. well Ill see what I can do.
I might just remove that stock y pipe, throw in a x pipe and duals, and keep the stock manifolds and cats. =/

Fabian
11-03-2009, 04:00 PM
Keep in mind a lot of these vids being posted are cammed....

Sounds a lot different....

Mr.z/28
11-03-2009, 04:43 PM
Keep in mind a lot of these vids being posted are cammed....

Sounds a lot different....

I know. thats what I mean. if only there was a vid of someone who has a stock motor with pacesetter LTs, x pipe, and those chamber 1 flowmaster.

FiredUpZ28
11-03-2009, 05:05 PM
Stock cats aren't as restrictive as people think. Talk to Pat G about how "restrictive" LS1 cars' exhaust is.

X pipe'd Flowmaster single chambers are sexy :)

Mr.z/28
11-03-2009, 08:24 PM
Stock cats aren't as restrictive as people think. Talk to Pat G about how "restrictive" LS1 cars' exhaust is.

X pipe'd Flowmaster single chambers are sexy :)

I know. they are. thats why I want a setup like this, but before I can do anything I need to know whats legal in cali and whats not.

RikkiTorment
11-05-2009, 02:15 AM
I have the TSP Rumbler X true dual setup on my car, it's sadly welded to the stock manifolds. It is also an X-pipe Give it a listen, it'll probably be the closest to what you're looking for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3i4aekSjU8

Mr.z/28
11-06-2009, 12:07 AM
I have the TSP Rumbler X true dual setup on my car, it's sadly welded to the stock manifolds. It is also an X-pipe Give it a listen, it'll probably be the closest to what you're looking for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3i4aekSjU8

It sounds good, but want something a lil more louder and deeper. but thanks.

RikkiTorment
11-06-2009, 01:33 AM
It sounds good, but want something a lil more louder and deeper. but thanks.

I don't think "louder" will happen with you being in Cali though D:

streetassasin
11-06-2009, 01:43 AM
my old car, xs longtubes, 2.5" h pipe dynomax bullets

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n257/streetassasin/th_MOV00852.jpg (http://s114.photobucket.com/albums/n257/streetassasin/?action=view&current=MOV00852.flv)

hitmanws6
11-06-2009, 02:16 AM
I know. they are. thats why I want a setup like this, but before I can do anything I need to know whats legal in cali and whats not.

anything from the cat-back is legal. you essentially have shorties on your car already. you can run the TD setup with different mufflers like LM1s and throw in an h pipe. that will be your loudest option without running LTs or mids.

Mr.z/28
11-06-2009, 02:53 AM
anything from the cat-back is legal. you essentially have shorties on your car already. you can run the TD setup with different mufflers like LM1s and throw in an h pipe. that will be your loudest option without running LTs or mids.

I guess Ill go with that then. If I cant go louder then....
I might as well keep them stock manifolds on, the stock cats,
h pipe and chamber 1.

Mr.z/28
11-06-2009, 02:55 AM
thank you all. =[

Mr.z/28
11-09-2009, 02:47 AM
I found this vid of a camaro that was stock. pacesetter LTs, High Flow cats, and chamber 1 flowmaster, running the pipe all the way out back. Instead I want to dumped them at the axle. Its kinda windy, but I like the tone it has. I bet if I were to do an h pipe along with cutouts, I Be happy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QQv09IyMVI

Fabian
11-09-2009, 08:55 AM
I know. thats what I mean. if only there was a vid of someone who has a stock motor with pacesetter LTs, x pipe, and those chamber 1 flowmaster.

Well I have a vid of my LTs/ORY Flowmaster stock motor setup. But it was a catback muffler and I dont have an X pipe so I don't know how different it would be. Lemme know if you want me to upload it just for shits and giggles.

Mr.z/28
11-10-2009, 01:46 AM
Well I have a vid of my LTs/ORY Flowmaster stock motor setup. But it was a catback muffler and I dont have an X pipe so I don't know how different it would be. Lemme know if you want me to upload it just for shits and giggles.

I dont mind man. maybe I might like it, might not.
go for it. I would like to hear.

RPM WS6
11-10-2009, 01:35 PM
You won't sound the same as these other cars without the LT headers. And if you want to stay legal in CA, you won't be using LT headers.

Just don't be disappointed if your car doesn't sound exactly the same as an LT header car with the same catback setup.

CamaroPrince
11-21-2009, 04:06 AM
Hey bro, I'm in the same situation you are. I don't want to settle for anything less than LT's and true duals. I'm not worried about passing visual inspection as I know a shop that will not worry about that. It's the sniffer that I'm worried about. Another issue, is as far as visibility, I believe the pipes have to come all the way out the back. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. Also, the sound can't go over 95 db's. Now if you get pulled over that will be up to the police officers discretion, he's not going to have a db meter, but most cops are lenient to us muscle car owners. Instead of getting pulled over, we get a thumbs up. :D

Right now the only options that I'm considering are:

a. Put on the exact setup I want, true duals plus long tubes, and take it off when it comes smog time and than put it back on again. lol I don't want to do that.
b. Same setup except have some custom mid removable mids pipes fab'd up so I can put on the most restrictive cats I can find just for smog and than cat deletes for the rest of the time.
c. Stick to just a cat back set up with long tubes and high flow cats. Which I'll drive around feeling and thinking that it's less than I want it to be, all the time.... :eyes:

gixxer75094lt1
11-21-2009, 06:09 AM
i dont find a point doing a h-pipe or x-pipe set up on stock manifolds and cats. if you dont plan on doing longtubes just get a catback exhaust. dont know how strict cali emissions are, i know they are the strictest in the u.s by far and if they do ''visual'' inspection every single time then yes the lt's wont work. over here in illinois 96 and up just do the obd2 scan and long as they are no engine lights u pass and 95 and pre cars are exempt now. i think u should do a catback and see how u like that. texas speed makes a catback tsp rumbler which i think is the cheapest in price and probably one of the loudest ive heard on stock car. i think its basically set up like a loudmouth exhaust. last i think they were selling for under 300.00..something like 275.00 i believe. its pretty loud with manifolds and cats. heres a link below....

also the guy in the vid stated the car only has a lid, ported maf and a tb..stock manifolds and cats still on the car. its pretty loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJVgRZCJltI&feature=related

gateman
11-21-2009, 08:49 AM
I will give my 2 cents...even if it is negative..I would stay away from Flowmaster, they rob power, sure they are better than stock but that is as far as it goes.. They are the hyped up brand that Jegs/Summitt push and you see them on the TV shows.. Flowmaster spends huge money on advertising and sponsering for the TV shows.. I had flowmaster 40' on a built 400 for my 79' TA (prior to the 540 thats in it now) and they sounded good BUT when I switched out to Magnaflow, had more low end, you could absolutely feel the difference from the drivers seat...
Well while at the local speed shop (Lynn's Speed and Custom) on my 540 build..They just finished a built 402 sbc... on the dyno it made about 503hp with the huge outdoor muffler stacks made for the dyno.. After all was said and done, we tried several mufflers just for to see.. Using the same headers we used a 2.5 pipe about 10' long exiting out the room.. Tried my flowmasters i had, magnaflow and a new Spintech muffler.. Well the flowmaster lost a little under 20 hp, the magnoflow lost about 8 and the Spintech pulled in the same numbers as the HUGE muffler stacks that were designed just for dyno exhaust to be free flowing and somewhat quite.. SO,
I would stay away from Flowmaster if you are concerned about HP.. I think that most hardcore car guys, engine builders and racers all know about Flowmaster.. However, due to thier advertising, the average Joe has no chance..I now run Spintech on the majority of my cars and a Corsa system on my WS6.. Just FYI, not trying to offend anyone, just stating facts..
Also, while I am still being negative, the driver from the fisrt vid SUCKS..unless it was someones wife driving while he was filming.. If that is the best burnout, wheel spin or hot dogging he/she could do, they need to buy a Honda:devil:

SOMbitch
11-21-2009, 08:59 PM
I will give my 2 cents...even if it is negative..I would stay away from Flowmaster, they rob power, sure they are better than stock but that is as far as it goes.. They are the hyped up brand that Jegs/Summitt push and you see them on the TV shows.. Flowmaster spends huge money on advertising and sponsering for the TV shows.. I had flowmaster 40' on a built 400 for my 79' TA (prior to the 540 thats in it now) and they sounded good BUT when I switched out to Magnaflow, had more low end, you could absolutely feel the difference from the drivers seat...
Well while at the local speed shop (Lynn's Speed and Custom) on my 540 build..They just finished a built 402 sbc... on the dyno it made about 503hp with the huge outdoor muffler stacks made for the dyno.. After all was said and done, we tried several mufflers just for to see.. Using the same headers we used a 2.5 pipe about 10' long exiting out the room.. Tried my flowmasters i had, magnaflow and a new Spintech muffler.. Well the flowmaster lost a little under 20 hp, the magnoflow lost about 8 and the Spintech pulled in the same numbers as the HUGE muffler stacks that were designed just for dyno exhaust to be free flowing and somewhat quite.. SO,
I would stay away from Flowmaster if you are concerned about HP.. I think that most hardcore car guys, engine builders and racers all know about Flowmaster.. However, due to thier advertising, the average Joe has no chance..I now run Spintech on the majority of my cars and a Corsa system on my WS6.. Just FYI, not trying to offend anyone, just stating facts..
Also, while I am still being negative, the driver from the fisrt vid SUCKS..unless it was someones wife driving while he was filming.. If that is the best burnout, wheel spin or hot dogging he/she could do, they need to buy a Honda:devil:


I agree with that LOL. But the FM 10's are a SWEET sounding muffler and I don't think they are very restictive at all. They are a one chamber design IIRC. The 80 series are the ones designed to fit in our OEM exhaust and are three chamber and restrictive once mods have been done....

Mr.z/28
11-22-2009, 03:44 AM
i dont find a point doing a h-pipe or x-pipe set up on stock manifolds and cats. if you dont plan on doing longtubes just get a catback exhaust. dont know how strict cali emissions are, i know they are the strictest in the u.s by far and if they do ''visual'' inspection every single time then yes the lt's wont work. over here in illinois 96 and up just do the obd2 scan and long as they are no engine lights u pass and 95 and pre cars are exempt now. i think u should do a catback and see how u like that. texas speed makes a catback tsp rumbler which i think is the cheapest in price and probably one of the loudest ive heard on stock car. i think its basically set up like a loudmouth exhaust. last i think they were selling for under 300.00..something like 275.00 i believe. its pretty loud with manifolds and cats. heres a link below....

also the guy in the vid stated the car only has a lid, ported maf and a tb..stock manifolds and cats still on the car. its pretty loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJVgRZCJltI&feature=related

It sounds sweet but I want more of a old skool sound you know.

Mr.z/28
11-22-2009, 03:48 AM
Hey bro, I'm in the same situation you are. I don't want to settle for anything less than LT's and true duals. I'm not worried about passing visual inspection as I know a shop that will not worry about that. It's the sniffer that I'm worried about. Another issue, is as far as visibility, I believe the pipes have to come all the way out the back. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong on that. Also, the sound can't go over 95 db's. Now if you get pulled over that will be up to the police officers discretion, he's not going to have a db meter, but most cops are lenient to us muscle car owners. Instead of getting pulled over, we get a thumbs up. :D

Right now the only options that I'm considering are:

a. Put on the exact setup I want, true duals plus long tubes, and take it off when it comes smog time and than put it back on again. lol I don't want to do that.
b. Same setup except have some custom mid removable mids pipes fab'd up so I can put on the most restrictive cats I can find just for smog and than cat deletes for the rest of the time.
c. Stick to just a cat back set up with long tubes and high flow cats. Which I'll drive around feeling and thinking that it's less than I want it to be, all the time.... :eyes:

I talked to one of my dads friend. theyve known each other for a while now, and he owns a muffler shop. I stopped by and asked how much would it cost me to do a setup. I told him Im not removing the manifolds or cats. so he said let me check out. he raised up my car. he said I will cut from where the stock y pipe is, and mount a 2 1/2 pipe to a 3 inch to connect with the with the 2 chamber 1 exhaust dumped before the axle. he said that should give me the tone I want. he then recommended me if I wanted high flow cats to make it even deeper, of instead of high flow cats, to buy some cut outs. hes charging me $240. I asked him about if a h pipe is possible, and he said no.

if anyone has pics. would be great if you showed me.

Mr.z/28
11-22-2009, 03:51 AM
I will give my 2 cents...even if it is negative..I would stay away from Flowmaster, they rob power, sure they are better than stock but that is as far as it goes.. They are the hyped up brand that Jegs/Summitt push and you see them on the TV shows.. Flowmaster spends huge money on advertising and sponsering for the TV shows.. I had flowmaster 40' on a built 400 for my 79' TA (prior to the 540 thats in it now) and they sounded good BUT when I switched out to Magnaflow, had more low end, you could absolutely feel the difference from the drivers seat...
Well while at the local speed shop (Lynn's Speed and Custom) on my 540 build..They just finished a built 402 sbc... on the dyno it made about 503hp with the huge outdoor muffler stacks made for the dyno.. After all was said and done, we tried several mufflers just for to see.. Using the same headers we used a 2.5 pipe about 10' long exiting out the room.. Tried my flowmasters i had, magnaflow and a new Spintech muffler.. Well the flowmaster lost a little under 20 hp, the magnoflow lost about 8 and the Spintech pulled in the same numbers as the HUGE muffler stacks that were designed just for dyno exhaust to be free flowing and somewhat quite.. SO,
I would stay away from Flowmaster if you are concerned about HP.. I think that most hardcore car guys, engine builders and racers all know about Flowmaster.. However, due to thier advertising, the average Joe has no chance..I now run Spintech on the majority of my cars and a Corsa system on my WS6.. Just FYI, not trying to offend anyone, just stating facts..
Also, while I am still being negative, the driver from the fisrt vid SUCKS..unless it was someones wife driving while he was filming.. If that is the best burnout, wheel spin or hot dogging he/she could do, they need to buy a Honda:devil:

Right now, like I said, stock motor, stock exhaust manifolds, cats.
stock y pipe, to a 40 series flowmaster. it sounds great, and when a little race comes along, it sounds great, but I wanna go with a deeper sound. I prefer flowmaster over magnaflows. they seem to me like an expensive resonator.

Mr.z/28
11-22-2009, 03:52 AM
I will give my 2 cents...even if it is negative..I would stay away from Flowmaster, they rob power, sure they are better than stock but that is as far as it goes.. They are the hyped up brand that Jegs/Summitt push and you see them on the TV shows.. Flowmaster spends huge money on advertising and sponsering for the TV shows.. I had flowmaster 40' on a built 400 for my 79' TA (prior to the 540 thats in it now) and they sounded good BUT when I switched out to Magnaflow, had more low end, you could absolutely feel the difference from the drivers seat...
Well while at the local speed shop (Lynn's Speed and Custom) on my 540 build..They just finished a built 402 sbc... on the dyno it made about 503hp with the huge outdoor muffler stacks made for the dyno.. After all was said and done, we tried several mufflers just for to see.. Using the same headers we used a 2.5 pipe about 10' long exiting out the room.. Tried my flowmasters i had, magnaflow and a new Spintech muffler.. Well the flowmaster lost a little under 20 hp, the magnoflow lost about 8 and the Spintech pulled in the same numbers as the HUGE muffler stacks that were designed just for dyno exhaust to be free flowing and somewhat quite.. SO,
I would stay away from Flowmaster if you are concerned about HP.. I think that most hardcore car guys, engine builders and racers all know about Flowmaster.. However, due to thier advertising, the average Joe has no chance..I now run Spintech on the majority of my cars and a Corsa system on my WS6.. Just FYI, not trying to offend anyone, just stating facts..
Also, while I am still being negative, the driver from the fisrt vid SUCKS..unless it was someones wife driving while he was filming.. If that is the best burnout, wheel spin or hot dogging he/she could do, they need to buy a Honda:devil:


I agree with that LOL. But the FM 10's are a SWEET sounding muffler and I don't think they are very restictive at all. They are a one chamber design IIRC. The 80 series are the ones designed to fit in our OEM exhaust and are three chamber and restrictive once mods have been done....


Flowmaster Chamber 1 are sweet!!! I just like how they sound on a cammed car.

Mr.z/28
12-04-2009, 01:43 AM
Post up your setup, or even vids. I wanna get ideas.

hitmanws6
12-04-2009, 02:58 AM
get an e cutout :cool:

malott's formula
12-04-2009, 07:43 AM
i like them wen i was 16 but i didnt like how every thing on the road had flowmaster i wanted different and all flowmasters almost sound the same and the fbody flowmaster sounds like shit hands down.my friend built a procharged 383 lt1 and wen it was on the dyno tuning it we talk him into cutting off the flowmaster and gained 38 hp and 53trq. after that i went with hooker muffler and i dropped from a 13.91 to a 13.76 and wen i had flowmaster single chambers on my lt1 everyone said it souds like a truck, now i have a 2000 ss slp camaro and i left the stock slp muffler and it sounds great its not loud just driving but wen i get on it a little it lets u know its there and i have a 3in cutout to that i run at drags and sum weekends
im not tryna talk crap if u run them but letn u know wat i learned bout them

Mr.z/28
12-05-2009, 12:03 AM
i like them wen i was 16 but i didnt like how every thing on the road had flowmaster i wanted different and all flowmasters almost sound the same and the fbody flowmaster sounds like shit hands down.my friend built a procharged 383 lt1 and wen it was on the dyno tuning it we talk him into cutting off the flowmaster and gained 38 hp and 53trq. after that i went with hooker muffler and i dropped from a 13.91 to a 13.76 and wen i had flowmaster single chambers on my lt1 everyone said it souds like a truck, now i have a 2000 ss slp camaro and i left the stock slp muffler and it sounds great its not loud just driving but wen i get on it a little it lets u know its there and i have a 3in cutout to that i run at drags and sum weekends
im not tryna talk crap if u run them but letn u know wat i learned bout them
Im not really about being fast, well yea but more of a cruising guy as well. you know.
I love a deeper tone, kinda like the classic muscle cars.