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11-28-2009, 12:08 AM
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How easy was HP Tuners for you to learn on? I am looking into getting a new FBody since I totaled mine I think this time I am going to do all the tuning and work myself which RPM doing some of the harder things that being said how many of you were able to understand HP Tuners after messing with some stuff?
11-28-2009, 09:16 AM
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Its a learning curve. For some worse than others. if you can READ and use a search button and be open to constructive criticism, it wont be too bad.
Now, if you are tech savy already youre in even better shape.
if you can understand physics and can visualize how they operate and why stuff does what and how that relates to when, then my man......you are the king of the world!!!
Honestly its not all that bad. READ ALOT! Buy some books, use the F1 button in the program, attempt small things at one time and learn what they do, learn how to read the scanner before you mod ANYTHING and ask questions.
Now, if you are tech savy already youre in even better shape.
if you can understand physics and can visualize how they operate and why stuff does what and how that relates to when, then my man......you are the king of the world!!!
Honestly its not all that bad. READ ALOT! Buy some books, use the F1 button in the program, attempt small things at one time and learn what they do, learn how to read the scanner before you mod ANYTHING and ask questions.
11-28-2009, 08:37 PM
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Not to bad but like TXZ0603 said READ-SEARCH-READ-ASK-READ SOME MORE. I had my first tune done by J. Formato . I bought Hp Tuners and just started login and trying to understand how things worked with others. Then I had my n/a 5.3 running with 60# injectors for a few months, now procharger. Now Im sure my tune isnt great but truck halls *** and hasent blown up on me.
11-29-2009, 03:28 PM
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We all learned it so why not you? It takes a long time to get good at it but not very long to get started. The more you mod the harder it gets. There is not a whole lot to tuning a stock/ bolt-on car. When you start adding cams, heads, forced induction it starts getting harder. That book by Greg Banish is really good, you should read it. Also, search here and on the HPtuners forum. Spend hours reading, I'm not kidding. If you wanna be good you gotta spend time reading. Basically love it, or you're wasting your time.
11-29-2009, 03:33 PM
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I'm still learning it. Only had it a few months and limited time to mess with it. I know a lot more than I did the day I got it. Just depends on how much time you can put into it. Don't expect to buy it and tune the next day. Well not correctly anyway.
11-30-2009, 12:21 PM
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I found it difficult. Making mistakes, getting answers from a couple differant forums, and trial and error.
Last year, I went to "the tuning school" in Odessa, and it helped a ton. For me, its a hobby I enjoy and wanted to learn more. Im attending the advanced school this weekend. I doubt Ill ever get that deep into tuning, but its fun learning.
I learned more this year, than I had the last three years on my own.
Last year, I went to "the tuning school" in Odessa, and it helped a ton. For me, its a hobby I enjoy and wanted to learn more. Im attending the advanced school this weekend. I doubt Ill ever get that deep into tuning, but its fun learning.
I learned more this year, than I had the last three years on my own.
11-30-2009, 02:24 PM
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We all learned it so why not you? It takes a long time to get good at it but not very long to get started. The more you mod the harder it gets. There is not a whole lot to tuning a stock/ bolt-on car. When you start adding cams, heads, forced induction it starts getting harder. That book by Greg Banish is really good, you should read it. Also, search here and on the HPtuners forum. Spend hours reading, I'm not kidding. If you wanna be good you gotta spend time reading. Basically love it, or you're wasting your time.
IMO he should have two versions: one for HP Tuners and another for EFI live.
You would think by now with a ten year knowledgebase of information (1998 to present) that there would be several single source information places that a novice could go to and purchase and be able to tune a car.
But as stated previously, you have to purchase the software (HP or EFI live), search the thousands of threads on forums, buy some books, install a wideband, and then find a dyno. And in the meantime pray that you don't do something wrong and then destroy in an instant tens of thousands of dollars of investment in engine and parts.
It still isn't a slamdunk or as easy to install a tune as it is to install Windows XP or Window 7 and it all works correctly.
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12-01-2009, 05:35 PM
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Get it and start tuning, man!!!! It's not all that bad if you're willing to do some research and read some books. It's like anything in life...requires some time and attention, but the rewards are totally worth it. When you go to eat a burger, you get it your way. Same goes for tailored suits, buying a home, choosing an axe, er, ahem, 'scuse me, I meant a WIFE, and anything else. Why deprive yourself of customizing your car? Buy the software and LIVE!!!!
12-01-2009, 05:42 PM
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Get it and start tuning, man!!!! It's not all that bad if you're willing to do some research and read some books. It's like anything in life...requires some time and attention, but the rewards are totally worth it. When you go to eat a burger, you get it your way. Same goes for tailored suits, buying a home, choosing an axe, er, ahem, 'scuse me, I meant a WIFE, and anything else. Why deprive yourself of customizing your car? Buy the software and LIVE!!!!
Very well put!!!
12-01-2009, 11:19 PM
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wasnt to bad, i think its easier to learn hands on rather than reading a book, but im more of a hands on learner, as long as you know what the tables do, adjust it little by little so you dont mess anything up so you can get a feel for what editing each table does
12-02-2009, 09:31 AM
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The hardest part was getting incorrect information from people and not knowing enough to know they were wrong.
Read everything
Trust nothing
Experiment
Document
Do one thing at a time
Be patient
Back up everything
Record every change in the tune and why you made it, and then record the results
Read everything
Trust nothing
Experiment
Document
Do one thing at a time
Be patient
Back up everything
Record every change in the tune and why you made it, and then record the results
12-02-2009, 02:24 PM
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The hardest part was getting incorrect information from people and not knowing enough to know they were wrong.
Read everything
Trust nothing
Experiment
Document
Do one thing at a time
Be patient
Back up everything
Record every change in the tune and why you made it, and then record the results
Read everything
Trust nothing
Experiment
Document
Do one thing at a time
Be patient
Back up everything
Record every change in the tune and why you made it, and then record the results
12-02-2009, 02:50 PM
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Cheers!
12-02-2009, 11:44 PM
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Now I'm interested in this book. Does it teach more than just theory? Can I get it at the local book store?
However, I fear some of us are at a level where the only thing that's going to teach us any more is tuning more and more combinations. Or.... possibly a book that actually goes through and shows step by step how to tune specific combinations, which is hard to do in a book.
However, I fear some of us are at a level where the only thing that's going to teach us any more is tuning more and more combinations. Or.... possibly a book that actually goes through and shows step by step how to tune specific combinations, which is hard to do in a book.
12-03-2009, 09:15 AM
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Now I'm interested in this book. Does it teach more than just theory? Can I get it at the local book store?
However, I fear some of us are at a level where the only thing that's going to teach us any more is tuning more and more combinations. Or.... possibly a book that actually goes through and shows step by step how to tune specific combinations, which is hard to do in a book.
However, I fear some of us are at a level where the only thing that's going to teach us any more is tuning more and more combinations. Or.... possibly a book that actually goes through and shows step by step how to tune specific combinations, which is hard to do in a book.
