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Old 12-02-2009, 03:00 PM
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Default Changing cams... Stumped

I put a torquer v.3 in the car in july and its so-so and im looking to change it up this winter but unsure of what to swap it out with because theres so many options so maybe some of you can help, post your cam, track times/mph, dyno numbers, driveability,etc..

My goals for the car:
to have decent street manners
have good midrange and topend power
hopefully make some torque, im sure bumping the compression will help that
i take the car to the track occasionally but it sees its share of highway pulls

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Fresh 346
Mahle forged pistons with 4cc reliefs
Torquer v.3 111 lsa
PRC stage 1 LS6 heads !UNMILLED!
LS7 Lifters
ls2 trays
ported ls6 oil pump
LS2 timing chain
TSP hardened pushrods
FTRA
smooth bellow
SLP lid, probably going to a bigger setup with 92/92
PRC dual valve spring
ARP rod bolts
MLS headgaskets
Pacestter LTs
Corsa Catback
LS7 clutch
Moser 9

I have an ls6 intake, plans of a fast 92/92 setup are planned for winter as well, as well as a monster clutch, and most likely TDs. As i said i am looking for a strong runner, something thats going to be impressive. I have been thinking G5x3, vrx5 and similar cams. I may even talk to pat g and/or pred z about a custom grind
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What exactly was it that you werent impressed with about the torquer? I didnt see any mention of what gears you were running. I rode in a bolt on/torquer/3.73/M6 car and that damn thing would move out above about 3500 rpm.....
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kinda seems like a puss move lol, but the .643 lift.. and i drive the car alot and dont feel ike replacing valve springs all the time. but then again there is probably a set of springs now that hold it. car has 4.11s.. i may think its in the tune why im not impressed with it..
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Originally Posted by 94 s dime
kinda seems like a puss move lol, but the .643 lift.. and i drive the car alot and dont feel ike replacing valve springs all the time. but then again there is probably a set of springs now that hold it. car has 4.11s.. i may think its in the tune why im not impressed with it..

You should be perfectly fine with the valvesprings to last you up to 20,000 miles or more. It just depends on how hard you drive it all the time. If you only get on it every now and then then the springs are not an issue. Patriot makes a good set of dual springs. Hell my cam has a .666 lift and my springs are going to be fine.
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What did you not like about the cam you have. The VRX5 is a good cam, but the cam may not be the problem. Or may be a cutmon cam may work better for you.
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Man, check your tune out before you swap cams, seriously, that cam pulls like a ****
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i might send the heads in for a 2.5 upgrade. and with a fast
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Originally Posted by blackhawk0251
You should be perfectly fine with the valvesprings to last you up to 20,000 miles or more. It just depends on how hard you drive it all the time. If you only get on it every now and then then the springs are not an issue. Patriot makes a good set of dual springs. Hell my cam has a .666 lift and my springs are going to be fine.
the car has its share of abuse... lol.. got 8k miles on them now
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you should be fine lol, check valve lash before replacing springs though, it could save you a few bucks.
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Shoot, if you're going to sell that T3, I'll take it! Lol.
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sold! lol jk.. alright than new question.. keep the t3, fast 92/92, stage 2.5 heads? the tune has got to go the car made 404 whp through a 9inch and it was at 5800, it fell on its face at 5800 and didnt climb after that, just went like straight down..
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Honestly, I would say retune before you go throwing more band-aids at it. There's obviously something going on there, and throwing more parts on there won't fix the main issue.


For what it's worth, what kind of dyno and altitude was that done on?
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V3s in M6s cam and bolt ons only should make 420 at the wheels.
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i wouldnt call the other mods i plan on doing a "bandaid" but just going to do them since im paying for another tune. I will most likely be having Exotic performance or speed inc. tune the car
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keep your cam. uprgade the heads, my car has 2.5 heads and the v.3, i ran almost 94 mph in the 1/8 and 118 in the quarter. with street tires and stock 323 gears. ur car should have more in it
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yeah i trapped 94 in the 1/8th with slicks and 4.11's lol.. just to show how much it falls on its face..it only traps 113-114 in the 1/4
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Who set up the valvetrain, are you sure the pushrod length is correct?
Spring height correct?
Was the cam degreed when it was installed or just thrown in dot to dot?
Who tuned it?
There is no way that should die at 5800.
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Originally Posted by 94 s dime
yeah i trapped 94 in the 1/8th with slicks and 4.11's lol.. just to show how much it falls on its face..it only traps 113-114 in the 1/4
when my car was on the dyno i was very surprised, i made peak power at 6200 rpm and only dropped 6 hp untill 7100,and thts all the further we took it, who knows it might have stayed until 7500? tons of power up top. what intake u run?
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Originally Posted by 94 s dime
sold! lol jk.. alright than new question.. keep the t3, fast 92/92, stage 2.5 heads? the tune has got to go the car made 404 whp through a 9inch and it was at 5800, it fell on its face at 5800 and didnt climb after that, just went like straight down..
i have a torquer v3,prc 2.5's on a stock intake and my car has ran 7.40's... installing a fast 92/92 so i say keep the v3
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If your not happy with the V3 on a 111 for torque, im not sure what your looking for.

You can drop down to a smaller size and tighter LSA, but your gain TQ low and lose HP on top.

Like someone said earlier, check your tune or get gears



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