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bad_408_vert
12-08-2009, 02:03 AM
Just wondering if there any v6 owners on 'tech and what are your impressions of the v6.

Is it worth it for a dd?


enginjoe
12-09-2009, 09:15 AM
I've driven a couple v6s on rental. They are cool cars and have all the stuff I would want in a car except they are too slow. I could never pay that much for something so slow. I'm weird like that though. I'm just thinking a lightly used g8 could be had for low 20s, so for a similar price you could have some power. I would have to mod the g8 to make it driveable of course, but at least it would have potential.

NW-99SS
12-09-2009, 10:35 AM
Don't the new Sixers put down similar numbers to the LT1 4th gens? If not, they are very close.

Of course they won't compare to the V8s for speed, that's why the SS costs more!

I am interested too, overall impressions, fuel economy, interior wear, etc...


enginjoe
12-09-2009, 11:33 AM
They are heavy, so the extra power isn't as noticeable. I rent a lot and I can tell you the v6 malibu has more balls. Fuel economy is good. Averaged around 25mpg mixed city and hwy. Interior is much nicer than a 4th gen. The seats are more comfortable too. I like the controls and the options. I can't live with the sunroof since I have a really long trunk, but most will fit. Visibility is a different experience. At first you think it's terrible, then after you adjust your mirrors and seating it's just fine. The mirror placement and size makes it work out better than the 4th gen. The trunk opening is way too small, but most buying this car wouldn't care about that.

01pewter2001z28
12-09-2009, 12:10 PM
I own a 2010 2LT/RS, A6, Sunroof I use it as my daily driver it's a great car runs with V8 mustangs I would put ti neck and next with the LT1 cars remove the tq mgt on the V6 cars and they will be a beast. Sure my MSRP was that of a 1SS (non RS, M6) I did not want the V8 (I am holding off for the Convertible 1st Qtr of 2011 for the Vert SS) mine is loaded I took advantage of GM Supplier plus the GM $500 60-day guarantee.

Well worth the $$ IMHO

Sean

SilverV6Camaro
12-09-2009, 02:04 PM
They aren't slower than Malibus. For a V6, they are very fast, running low 14's equal to the 99-04 V8 Stangs and LT1 F-bodies. Quite impressive:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/112_0907_2010_chevrolet_camaro_v6_vs_2010_hyundai_ genesis_coupe_3_8_track/specs.html

Malibu is quite a bit slower:
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0802_midsize_sedan_comparison/specs_and_road_test_data.html

enginjoe
12-09-2009, 03:06 PM
That's a pre-production, manual, non sunroof, RWD camaro vs FWD automatic loaded malibu 1/4 mile comparison. The curb weights are almost identical in those mag tests. Who knows what the weather differences were between the different test periods, since they weren't tested at the same time. I'm sure the actual weights are a bit farther apart and the auto trans in the camaro would put them much closer in performance in any test. Of course I'm cursed to live at altitude where the new Camaro is a 15 second car at best.

Dark SS
12-09-2009, 06:11 PM
I own an M6 SS and test drove an A6 2LT last month when my girlfriend ordered her equinox. I was very impressed. It has a ton of pick up compared to any other V6 I've driven. I was surprised by the torque. It had no problem sliding around corners. I would love to test drive an M6 LT to see how it feels compared to my old M6 LT1. With the gas mileage and fact that it takes 87 octane I am very seriously considering a used one for a DD a couple years down the road. High 13's with a few small tweaks and 30 mpg's, I think I would get a black 2LT/RS to match my SS.

bad_408_vert
12-09-2009, 06:27 PM
I guess a rental weekend is needed to put this to test.

When you say the trunk is small..in what terms? Like how trunks were on convertible 4th gens?

I 've seen trunk for g37 also, its pretty small but isn't thats expected of most of coupes these days anyway.

grocerygetter
12-09-2009, 07:01 PM
I'd say a 6 in a manual would be a cool dd. My ss is my daily though.

enginjoe
12-09-2009, 08:18 PM
I guess a rental weekend is needed to put this to test.

When you say the trunk is small..in what terms? Like how trunks were on convertible 4th gens?

I 've seen trunk for g37 also, its pretty small but isn't thats expected of most of coupes these days anyway.

The trunk is huge compared to 4th gens. The opening is just small. Test drive is definitely the way to go. I test drove an ss for a weekend myself. I like everything about the car except I'm waiting for more power or to get used one to mod so it has decent power. I admit its a personal problem...

waterproofer
12-09-2009, 09:16 PM
here's my ls camaro it is a base car. only option is 21" wheels. good on gas tranny feels weak, runs 9.40 in the 1/8 14.2 in the 1/4. stock. but i like it. its not a race car.

Dark SS
12-10-2009, 06:26 PM
Nice car, 14.2 is impressive. I can't wait to see how these things pick up once they crack the ECM and tune it.

scottyk246
12-10-2009, 07:19 PM
Meh, I don't know... I guess an M6 V6 would be a decent DD. My local dealer has an LS similar to yours waterproofer, and I think it looks kinda cool with the 18" black steel wheels and the chrome trim ring, and its only $24k I think...

bad_408_vert
12-10-2009, 07:35 PM
:hijack: by myself :jest:

Whats a ballpark or an average monthly price on these cars.

GM commercials are saying 13.89 for every 1k financed w/ a 11% down payment on a malibu , which is similarly priced.

scottyk246
12-10-2009, 07:54 PM
Well $25k financed for 5 years at say, 7.5% would be right around $500 a month... You could stretch it out for 72 months but that's a long time to pay on a car. But then again the longest I've ever kept a vehicle is 2 years...

01pewter2001z28
12-11-2009, 07:43 AM
$219 a month for 3 years 2LT/RS :)

scottyk246
12-11-2009, 09:59 PM
^^I'm guessing a lease? Or one hell of a down payment...

01pewter2001z28
12-11-2009, 11:07 PM
^^I'm guessing a lease? Or one hell of a down payment...

Traded in my 17k down (my 06 Silverado traded in) 3% for 3 years :)

scottyk246
12-11-2009, 11:37 PM
Ahh... that makes sense now...

bad_408_vert
12-12-2009, 01:06 AM
Scotty do any lease options exist on the camaro?

On manufacturer websites like chevy, ford, dodge these kind of cars are really just being financed to be sold. Or is a dealership thing.

Sorry if these are obvious answer questions to some, never hada brand new car. lol

scottyk246
12-12-2009, 05:13 PM
I guess I can't really say... I always just assumed GM or anybody else for that matter would do whatever it took to get money from the consumer. I think leasing would be an excellent idea for a V6 car especially for someone like me. I don't keep much of anything more than a year or two. Probably not a great idea for an SS, or anybody planning to mod. I fully intend to dump several thousand into my car, and I love it for now but when the newness wears off it will get sold.

NemeSS
12-14-2009, 12:51 PM
the thing about the v6s is the loss of value in only few yrs.compared to a v8.
when the v6 drop to cash prices is when ill swoop in and take one. and swap in ls and still be cheeper overall imo

chevelless502
12-14-2009, 10:00 PM
I am glad this just came up. I just found a dealer who is selling all 28 of the camaros they have in stock for approx $2000 off of retail. I know thats not a big bargain but for the 2010's its decent. They have a Base model black on black V6 car for $22,750. I was pretty impressed.

Andy

bad_408_vert
12-16-2009, 08:29 PM
the thing about the v6s is the loss of value in only few yrs.compared to a v8.
when the v6 drop to cash prices is when ill swoop in and take one. and swap in ls and still be cheeper overall imo

Good Luck with that. :engarde:

scottyk246
12-17-2009, 12:07 AM
Well I'm actually thinking of swapping out my LS3 for a Prius drivetrain... A hybrid of a hybrid thing, you know. Keeping it classy...

DroppedM6Z
12-20-2009, 05:02 PM
My buddy has a 2LT V6 with all the options except the RS. Sure it looks nice IOM with polished 20s and blk stripes. Waste of money IMO. For 3K more he could have had a LS3. He wanted the leather, auto with the paddles (that have not been used yet and 3K on the car) and the V6. He cant drive a stick and has no balls to add to his insufficent amount of cylinders....:mad:.

BTW he wrote a check for the car......and didnt WANT to toss out the extra for the SS or the RS package. DUMBA$$ with lots of CASH


Cant even keep up with his dads Crossfire Coupe

ecmoman
12-21-2009, 08:16 AM
the thing about the v6s is the loss of value in only few yrs.compared to a v8.
when the v6 drop to cash prices is when ill swoop in and take one. and swap in ls and still be cheeper overall imo

From everything i've been hearing, it would be MUCH cheaper to go SS. As with anything, if you sprinkle enough $$, it can be done but the LS swap isn't a simple bolt in and go. Supposedly there are structural differences between the two cars as well. We'll see what happens in the years to come but preliminary reports say it's cost prohibitive.