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Old 12-12-2009, 04:07 PM
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Question O ringing a head.... at what point is it necessary?

Im planning on building a motor for my SS in the near future.... Ive been doing a lot of research lately.

One of the questions I have is at what point should o ringing be considered? My goals are 800+ whp..... procharged, and possibly going bigger in the future. Is o ringing at that level way too overkill? What kind of costs are associated with o ringing when building a motor?

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Old 12-12-2009, 04:18 PM
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I've got similar goals for my TT 347. I'm curious about this as well, even though I think the answer will be 18-20+ psi.

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@ 800HP, A Cometic + a properly machined deck and 3/4" deck head will work good.
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An o-ring is never an over kill way to seal a combustion chamber. they will support much more cylinder pressure with out failing. It normally runs about $250 to o-ring the head gaskets also cost less than a cometic gasket and can be reused if necessary. I recommend this when using more than 20 psi of boost or more than 500 hp of nitrous.
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At 1200-1400 you need to have it o-ring'd. A double o-ring is the only setup that we've seen that will hold EVERYTHING you can throw at it. You will break the piston or head before the setup leaks.
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You have to figure out what your goals are, 800 to 1000 rwhp can be done with AFR heads, ARP head studs and GM MLS gaskets. Bob
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im @ 15psi with pump gas/meth. seems ok. of course i want to turn it up with race gas to 18-20 psi. would you chance it with a setup like mine without oringing the heads? im running ported 243`s with arp studs all over.
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Originally Posted by G Engines
An o-ring is never an over kill way to seal a combustion chamber.
Agree. The cost of doing is minimal in the grand scheme.
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i would do it on any ls trying to make power. the oring is tried and true, very inexpensive and at 800hp you would never have to worry about a blown head gasket.

Coming up this spring, im going to push the stock l92 heads with a basic o ring setup to see when they push water. setup is a 400+ cubes with a 98mm.
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I wouldn't go thru the trouble of oringing a stock head with a stock deck. The oring will not keep the head from flexing/lifting. Save the money on the oringing and buy a thick deck head. Then if you discover that you are having problems popping headgaskets, that's when you need the orings.
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^ The price difference between heads is still pretty large once you start pricing it all out. TEA has their service priced at $125 for both heads. That's pretty good insurance for a small amount of money.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
I wouldn't go thru the trouble of oringing a stock head with a stock deck. The oring will not keep the head from flexing/lifting. Save the money on the oringing and buy a thick deck head. Then if you discover that you are having problems popping headgaskets, that's when you need the orings.
lol your basing that on what? thick decks help but for whats he is doing i wouldnt WASTE the money. I personally have run 25+psi with a pt88mm on a 370 with the block oringed. standard arp studs, nothing special. not one single sign of pushing water either.



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