Louis

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Hey Buddy! You just researchin or buyin? <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />

NataSS Inc

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by G2 LS1:
<strong> Hey Buddy! You just researchin or buyin? <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hehehe, um.....researching....yeah thats it!

FastBlackTA

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hey,

just in case you might want more options

i've just ordered a machined darton sleeved block from cartek 4.126 bore. they've had great success so far, and dave and julio definately know what's up.

i hope to assemble things in May...once the machine work is done and i have it in my hands, i will post some pics for you guys..

conrad

FastBlackTA

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sorry thats 4.125 bore <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

AP-Engineering

I would give ARE a call. They can get you a resleeved block. They are also a Diamond Pistons dealer.

Thanks,
Chris Gelineau
Diamond Pistons
877-552-2112 toll free

Fulton 1

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To my knowledge right now the Darton-sleeved block is the way to go. It presents a nice balance of strength and cost. It appears that several of our sponsors are now offering this option.
Whatever you do don't pinch pennies on the block. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

MattG

Who has thoroughly tested one of the Darton sleeved blocks like LPE and Cartek sell? I keep hearing they have been extensively tested but I have yet to hear of one car that even has one in it, let alone what horsepower it has been proven with.

As for fastest times and most amount of horsepower through a resleeved block, I think I would have to go with ARE on this one. They ran 9.24 in their C5 with over 800rwhp and 8.92 with their Camaro SS with probably closer to 1000rwhp. Both of these engines have been torn down after a season of racing at this power level and there were no sleeve issues whatsoever. I think those numbers, along with many other fast resleeved-LS1 customers of theirs like GeorgeC, definitely speak to their reliability.

I also believe ARE's block comes fully machined and bored to any desired size for ~$2200 which is quite a bit less expensive than the un-machined, un-proven (in my opinion) new Darton Sleeved blocks.

Also, ARE's sleeves are built by Darton for only ARE.

I do not want to start any type of war on here between tuners, but all too often I see people stating unclear facts as to what has been proven and what hasnt, so I felt I had to state a couple actual facts that relate to power and 1/4 mile times on resleeved blocks.

NataSS Inc

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I am not going to be running this motor on a drag strip. It is going to be an endurance motor that has to survive on the big end for at least 40 minutes of abuse.

SPEED DOG

Can't comment on blocks from other companies. My ARE 436 has performed as advertised. Which is to say, no issues at all related to the block. There are a number of these engines out there, and they all seem to be doing fine.

The days of difficult customer service, and perhaps variable quality at ARE seem to be long past. Wade has been very responsive in all sorts of ways, and the engine just runs like a train.

My goals were similar to yours: longevity at road race events, and on the street, rather than max power for the drags. So far, I've gotten what I aimed at.

SPEED DOG

Can't comment on blocks from other companies. My ARE 436 has performed as advertised. Which is to say, no issues at all related to the block. There are a number of these engines out there, and they all seem to be doing fine.

The days of difficult customer service, and perhaps variable quality at ARE seem to be long past. Wade has been very responsive in all sorts of ways, and the engine just runs like a train.

My goals were similar to yours: longevity at road race events, and on the street, rather than max power for the drags. So far, I've gotten what I aimed at.

Black Sunshine/ 00SS

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I think that either would be a good choice.

I chose ARE, because I have confidence in the ability of the block to handle extreme abuse.

Good luck in your decision.

NataSS Inc

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I have finally laid out all of the plans for my 427 build up. But when it comes to picking which block to use I am a little lost. Right now I am looking at 4.125 bore LS6 block. The 2 company's that I am looking at buying from are both sponsors on this board. But I am a little unsure which one to go with. One is considierably cheaper than the other but doesnot provide any block prep. I would have to send the block out to be bored and honed. The other is much more expensive but I would just have to tell them what bore size I wanted. I have also heard rumors that one of them has had trouble with thier blocks sealing (is there any truth to that)?

If you havent guessed I am talking about ARE and MTI. I am not interested in hearing about cam and head combos, I am having someone else do that work. But who has seen or dealt with resleeved block from either co.

I could really use some insight and would like to make the absolute best informed desicion I can.
TIA <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Onyx LS1

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this is gonna turn into a war <img border="0" alt="[shoot]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />
just do a search and read what customers have thought, also check the corvette forum.
MTI got my vote, i jut feel 100 times better about spending that much money when i have no doubts about it breaking (excellent customer service & warranty)
also it seems that one of them consistently has better track times <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

NataSS Inc

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Onyx LS1:
<strong> this is gonna turn into a war <img border="0" alt="[shoot]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" />
just do a search and read what customers have thought, also check the corvette forum.
MTI got my vote, i jut feel 100 times better about spending that much money when i have no doubts about it breaking (excellent customer service & warranty)
also it seems that one of them consistently has better track times <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was afraid this might turn into a flame war but phone calls to either place really didnt give me any real warm fuzzies. Basically both places said "heres what ya pay, heres what ya get, and I hope you have a core"

LETS KEEP IT CIVIL! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

MTI

MTIs machine shop builds resleeved blocks daily. We guarantee that the block will not leak water and assure you that it can handle your power output. We have numerous 9 second cars & daily drivers running our resleeved blocks without incident. The resleeved blocks are $1995. exchange or $800. more outright.

Visit
http://www.motorsporttech.com/2002_w.../FBengine.html
For more info or contact me directly at JaysonMTI@aol.com

Jayson - MTI <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />

NataSS Inc

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MTI:
<strong> or $800. more outright.

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was qouted 1000.00 over the phone

NataSS Inc

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Thanks for the input guys. But after alot of phone calls and research I have decided to dropp the coin on a C5R block. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />