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Old 12-22-2009, 02:57 AM
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these guys are tellin me its impossilbe to make a true dual system for my 98 trans am im sold on going with the true duals but these guys are sayin its not ganna work and im not tryin to spend no 225 for a true dual system when i can make it custom for a lot less money so help me out here should i show them pictures or do anybody got pics of a 98 ta with true duals from underneath??
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hmm... my shop wants about 400$ for the job... and they have no problem doing it
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any shop can run them under the axle, but if you want an over the axle job you have to find someone with a little skill.. just find another shop and tell them two 2.5 inch pipes will fit where the original pipe was....

oh and then go back to original shop and say screw you it can be done haha
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Originally Posted by LS1TAUTO
these guys are tellin me its impossilbe to make a true dual system for my 98 trans am im sold on going with the true duals but these guys are sayin its not ganna work and im not tryin to spend no 225 for a true dual system when i can make it custom for a lot less money so help me out here should i show them pictures or do anybody got pics of a 98 ta with true duals from underneath??
True duals over the axles done at a shop can be expensive on these cars. If you can do it cheap I say go for it. I built my own true duals and several others for friends but we always do turndowns. Thats a lot less complicated.
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www.jegs.com

look up the dynomax pipes for the v6 Fbody...its mandrel bent 2.5"

you can get the I-pipe and the over-axle pipe for a good price. then pick up an Hpipe or Xpipe and put it all together. then the only thing they have to do is mess with a few hangers and cut/rotate/extend the last bend on the passenger side over-axle pipe so it points to the back (instead of turning perpendicular to the car).

that way you maintain the dual tips.

other option is to run to chamberd mufflers side by side in the stock muffler location, and put a U bend to bring the other tip back to the passenger side

you'll end up with a routing much like these two setups...



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I wanna do turn downs they sound sick and are way easier to deal with
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oh well in that case...check out the TD thread.

tons of pics

here is mine after i retweaked one side the other day.

magnaflow fullsize 4x9 mufflers, 3" pipes

with a 1.2" suspension drop...i've got just shy of 2.5" of clearance. more compact mufflers would tuck up better.








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[QUOTE=teke184;12653481]www.jegs.com

look up the dynomax pipes for the v6 Fbody...its mandrel bent 2.5"

you can get the I-pipe and the over-axle pipe for a good price. then pick up an Hpipe or Xpipe and put it all together. then the only thing they have to do is mess with a few hangers and cut/rotate/extend the last bend on the passenger side over-axle pipe so it points to the back (instead of turning perpendicular to the car).

that way you maintain the dual tips.

other option is to run to chamberd mufflers side by side in the stock muffler location, and put a U bend to bring the other tip back to the passenger side

you'll end up with a routing much like these two setups...

Teke: Damn that's nice plumbing. I never considered true duals until I saw this pic.

I incorrectly assumed TD's would mean shitty looking pavement sparking mufflers.
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haha...in the post you quoted me from....neither of those are my car.

MY setup is posted just above here.

with full size mufflers, and 3" pipes...LOWERED...i think its pretty damn good. and as stated, different mufflers would significantly change how much clearance i have. but DAMN i love the sound of the 4x9s.


but they are nice setups.

as i said you can do it relatively cheap if you use the prebent pipes. it will take some tweaking, but the time you save elsewhere is considerable
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True duals can be done on f bodys all day. even the so called impossible 3" over the axle has been done.
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OP, just print and show these pics from this thread to the shop and see what they say, haha.
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The easy way/ Under the undercariage...




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my opinion, they just dont want to do it....bring bussiness elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by NAAllTheWay
my opinion, they just dont want to do it....bring bussiness elsewhere.
EXACTLY........
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I've had shops flat out refuse to do true duals, arguing it cannot be done. Keep rolling along until some one that has a "pair" treats you right. Will 4th gen kits fit 3rd gens?

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it pays to know people with tools. I'm just buying the x pipe and some raw piping, and my buddy with a pipe bender and welder is gonna help me set it up
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Not to hijack, but has anyone done some customizing on the X-pipe systems out there to do duals into side exit? I'd like to see if it's been done yet.
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side exit will REALLY cut down on clearance.
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Originally Posted by 96autoformula
Not to hijack, but has anyone done some customizing on the X-pipe systems out there to do duals into side exit? I'd like to see if it's been done yet.
Yes, I'll try and get some pics up, but it's not too likely, as I don't have a lift and she's garaged right now for the bastard winter weather...


--The pics in my post, above (with the rear exits), are not my Camaro...--


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side exit will REALLY cut down on clearance.

YES, I scrape anytime I hit a decent bump. I'd estimate like 2 1/2 inches from the ground; it's all torn up, but I still love it




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