General Maintenance & Repairs Leaks | Squeaks | Clunks | Rattles | Grinds

No-go Camaro

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-23-2009, 07:44 PM
  #1  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default No-go Camaro

Today, after I spent 3 hrs cleaning my ride. I decided to go for a joyride cruisin along all is well t-tops out, Disturbed singing to me, foot to the floor in 3rd about 80 MPH not to the revlimiter yet it dies like I hit the redline. I push the clutch in coast for a bit then try to bump start nothing happens.So I pull over turn down the radio and try to start it. Not suprisingly it does not start but it does turn over just fine. So I'm pretty sure its a fuel pump related issue. Since I bought the car in 2005 everytime I fill it with gas it stinks like gas. I think today it just had enough. I dont know what kind of fuel mods it may have in the tank cause I have never looked. I just have to wait until Monday. Has anyone head this happen if so what was it?
Old 12-23-2009, 09:02 PM
  #2  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Also got a p0342 Bank 1 Cam sensor code.
Old 12-25-2009, 05:53 PM
  #3  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

anybody?
Old 12-25-2009, 06:11 PM
  #4  
myk
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
myk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sun Diego
Posts: 1,884
Received 12 Likes on 9 Posts

Default

Are you going to do a fuel pressure test on the pump? I just dealt with that problem on my '97Z...

Last edited by myk; 12-25-2009 at 10:25 PM.
Old 12-25-2009, 08:28 PM
  #5  
On The Tree
iTrader: (5)
 
spoonraker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That could be a lot of things, hopefully it's something fairly straightforward and not super expensive. When that happened to my daily driver saturn it ended up being a snapped timing chain, luckily for me it was a recalled item so I got a whole new cylinder head and timing chain installed for free.
Old 12-25-2009, 10:04 PM
  #6  
...with cheese.
iTrader: (41)
 
Armageddon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Madison, AL
Posts: 1,854
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Borrow a fuel pressure gauge from your local parts store tomorrow and hook it to the schrader valve on the fuel rail. Turn the gauge so it faces the drive seat. Turn the key to the on position without cranking and listen for the fuel pump to prime. If you cycle the key around 5 times without seeing in the neighborhood of 40-55lbs of fuel pressure at the rail it's more than likely your fuel pump has given out.

How much fuel was in the tank? In tank pumps burn out more frequently when the vehicle is low on fuel.

I also noticed you just got done washing the car. Did you clean the engine bay?

A cam sensor code will not keep the car from running. It uses the crank sensor instead to figure out the position of the cam. How long has it had this code?
Old 12-26-2009, 01:35 AM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (22)
 
sway99bird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Paris, Texas
Posts: 1,452
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post

Default

Yea what he said ^^
Old 12-26-2009, 09:09 AM
  #8  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Armageddon
Borrow a fuel pressure gauge from your local parts store tomorrow and hook it to the schrader valve on the fuel rail. Turn the gauge so it faces the drive seat. Turn the key to the on position without cranking and listen for the fuel pump to prime. If you cycle the key around 5 times without seeing in the neighborhood of 40-55lbs of fuel pressure at the rail it's more than likely your fuel pump has given out.

How much fuel was in the tank? In tank pumps burn out more frequently when the vehicle is low on fuel.

I also noticed you just got done washing the car. Did you clean the engine bay?

A cam sensor code will not keep the car from running. It uses the crank sensor instead to figure out the position of the cam. How long has it had this code?
I got a fuel filter and I bought a tester. I can hear the pump under the car yesterday it backfired and ran like crap for about 2 seconds I didn't wash the engine bay. I hope its not a timing chain. it has about 1/3 of a tank. About 4 months ago I did seafoam and never changed my filter so i'm going to start there.
Old 12-26-2009, 12:10 PM
  #9  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well to update, I changed the filter, car has 54lbs of pressure which is good. The fuel pump def works. No start Big *** backfire while cranking though. I pretty much eliminated the fuel issue. Now I think its a timing issue. Is there a major thing that would stop the car from firing, besides the timing chain?
Old 12-26-2009, 01:18 PM
  #10  
On The Tree
 
RSbeast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Warren, OH
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If it's backfiring it's likley timing related.

Check into the crank and cam positioning sensors.
(never knew these cars had a cam sensor too....guess it makes sense with the coil packs)
Old 12-26-2009, 04:23 PM
  #11  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
SOMbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

If the TC broke the motor will spin over real fast when you try to start it. It is pretty obvious. It is possible it jumped a tooth but I have not seen this on a LSx motor yet. Pull codes but my bet is a cam position sensor....
Old 12-26-2009, 05:30 PM
  #12  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SOMbitch
If the TC broke the motor will spin over real fast when you try to start it. It is pretty obvious. It is possible it jumped a tooth but I have not seen this on a LSx motor yet. Pull codes but my bet is a cam position sensor....
Awesome I found out where that thing is doesn't look like alot fun
Old 12-26-2009, 06:08 PM
  #13  
12 Second Club
 
shaun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,848
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i had a crank sensor go out in a 95 eclipse and the car would not start but it would turn over so maybe it can be that can sensor?
Old 12-27-2009, 08:04 AM
  #14  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
SOMbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I would be sure to pull the code and you will will know for sure whether it is cam or crank sensor. Cam is p0340 & crank is p0341.
Old 12-27-2009, 08:06 PM
  #15  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I cant reach the sensor does it have a bolt on in or does it just pull out?
Old 12-27-2009, 10:10 PM
  #16  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
99huggerorangeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: rosemount,mn/windsor locks,ct
Posts: 1,112
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by JohnFrazee02SS
I cant reach the sensor does it have a bolt on in or does it just pull out?
its is held in by a bolt and then can be pulled out.
Old 12-28-2009, 05:55 PM
  #17  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I broke the timing chain, so its getting the 5.3 heads I have in the garage and a oil pump chain and a nice lopey camshaft. Lemme just say I'm pretty freakin excited about it.
Old 01-12-2010, 09:13 PM
  #18  
12 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (23)
 
JohnFrazee02SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Fort Hood TX. 76522
Posts: 639
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

well so much for that now its getting a 5.3 from the junkyard for $550 and am just going to drive it until it falls apart.
Old 01-16-2010, 06:58 PM
  #19  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (9)
 
82cetuner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Denham Springs, LA
Posts: 1,368
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts

Default

what happend cause damage to the bottem end also?
Old 01-18-2010, 01:51 AM
  #20  
Launching!
 
98pontiac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

definatly a cam sensor. its a crank sensor if you rpm gauge doesnt work.


Quick Reply: No-go Camaro



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:02 PM.