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90TSiAWD
01-13-2010, 07:40 PM
Okay so this guy at my shop is picking up a 04 Cobra Vert, it has 515 to the wheels not sure on all mods but I know it has 4:10 gears and a stock clutch but it has 515 RWHP.

My Trans Am is a Full exhuast, Lid, NX wet kit will spray 125 shot, and a 3400 stall converter will run M/T E/T streets. This will be tuned I haven't tuned it yet tho.

Do you think I can give him a run?


180ls1
01-13-2010, 07:44 PM
Go from a dig and i bet you will jump out on him pretty hard. I bet you can hold him off unless you race to high speeds.

90TSiAWD
01-13-2010, 07:45 PM
Oopps sorry meant to put this in bench racing forgot to click it my bad!

I'll have to do a dig because of my gears.


acammer
01-13-2010, 09:12 PM
Dig is your best bet, he should have you out powered a little bit on the top end, but a hard launch on drags w/ converter, gears and spray should pull out front pretty hard.

BSmiff
01-14-2010, 01:57 AM
No way he can keep up with ya if yall run 1/4 unless he is an A+ driver but if you go from a dig to over 120 he is going to fetch you.

Marc 85Z28
01-14-2010, 08:13 AM
Go from a stop or a very slow roll. Maybe up the shot to a 150 just in case. Don't be intimidated by his power. Most Cobra's don't seem to use their power as well as we do, especially the convertible cars for whatever reason.

Oh yeah, what brand converter?

streetassasin
01-14-2010, 08:33 AM
IMO he has you with you on a 125, heres a vid I made from a couple local guys.
The Cobra driver can drive his ass off, good enough to get a stall, sprayed ls1 with mt dr out the hole with just some nittos on the cobra :jest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdQeTApP3tU

blubyu02
01-14-2010, 09:23 AM
i say you will get him being that he is new to the car and hasnt bonded with it, unless he is just ''that driver'' lol other than that you got him

88blackgt
01-14-2010, 10:11 AM
IMO he has you with you on a 125, heres a vid I made from a couple local guys.
The Cobra driver can drive his ass off, good enough to get a stall, sprayed ls1 with mt dr out the hole with just some nittos on the cobra :jest:


ooo comp orange

jrob56
01-14-2010, 10:31 AM
i have no idea, but make a vid so we know in the future!

streetassasin
01-15-2010, 03:12 AM
ooo comp orange

Slammed on chrome fr500's :drool:

Ke^in
01-15-2010, 05:53 AM
Either way, It will be an interesting race.

unit213
01-15-2010, 06:57 AM
Unless he's running a 28" tire, he's running way too much gear. That 4.10 is going to make launching impossible on a 26" drag radial with all the low end torque from the roots blower. Bad choice on his part. Given that, run him from a dig. I suspect that you'll stomp him considering you have a stalled automatic and he's not going to get out of the hole well.

If you go from a roll, make sure it's a slow roll...like 15mph. He'll smoke
the tires and you'll walk right past him. Don't run him from a 35+ roll.

ponygt65
01-15-2010, 03:33 PM
Unless he's running a 28" tire, he's running way too much gear. That 4.10 is going to make launching impossible on a 26" drag radial with all the low end torque from the roots blower. Bad choice on his part. Given that, run him from a dig. I suspect that you'll stomp him considering you have a stalled automatic and he's not going to get out of the hole well.

If you go from a roll, make sure it's a slow roll...like 15mph. He'll smoke
the tires and you'll walk right past him. Don't run him from a 35+ roll.

+1

Except......since this car will be new to him, I'd bet you have a 'decent' shot even from a 35+ roll. Once he gets seat time, you wont' have a shot at that roll.

Ke^in
01-15-2010, 04:09 PM
A lot of people are running 4.10s that shouldn't be.

outtacontrolz28
01-15-2010, 05:20 PM
You should drag him from a dig, from a roll that would be a diffrent story

90TSiAWD
01-17-2010, 05:11 PM
Go from a stop or a very slow roll. Maybe up the shot to a 150 just in case. Don't be intimidated by his power. Most Cobra's don't seem to use their power as well as we do, especially the convertible cars for whatever reason.

Oh yeah, what brand converter?

It's a fuddle 3400 don't give me crap its one of the earlier build good ones and I only gave 100 bucks for it got it in yesterday and its crazy!

i say you will get him being that he is new to the car and hasnt bonded with it, unless he is just ''that driver'' lol other than that you got him

Yeah he just came from a 01 GT so it will be a huge jump for him and im not sure if he can drive or not.

Unless he's running a 28" tire, he's running way too much gear. That 4.10 is going to make launching impossible on a 26" drag radial with all the low end torque from the roots blower. Bad choice on his part. Given that, run him from a dig. I suspect that you'll stomp him considering you have a stalled automatic and he's not going to get out of the hole well.

If you go from a roll, make sure it's a slow roll...like 15mph. He'll smoke
the tires and you'll walk right past him. Don't run him from a 35+ roll.

He is just running street tires so he will have no traction, I saw the car yesterday and it's a cream puff.


The guy works in my shop and won't shut his mouth about how bad ass he and his new car is. He has a huge head about it, so I would love to hurt his feelings with my T/A that I have less than 7k in.

unit213
01-17-2010, 05:16 PM
He is just running street tires so he will have no traction

4.10's, a stock clutch, 500rwtq at 2,00rpm, and street tires. Brilliant. Kick his ass.

ScreaminRedZ
01-17-2010, 08:03 PM
Since it's gonna be a dig race I'd put my money on you. What's up with people driving high hp cars and not even throwing a set of drag radials on their car?

jrob56
01-17-2010, 08:38 PM
when is this going down? and i hope your gonna get a vid?

FlashLCD33
01-17-2010, 10:26 PM
Since it's gonna be a dig race I'd put my money on you. What's up with people driving high hp cars and not even throwing a set of drag radials on their car?

+1.

20k+ car, and can't afford $400 in drag radials. Biggest waste of car/power evar.

j_dover
01-17-2010, 10:34 PM
i outrun a convert cobra with basicly same setup and he was 500 or a hair over.i got him from a dig..also consider convertables are heavier

unit213
01-18-2010, 08:36 PM
+1.

20k+ car, and can't afford $400 in drag radials. Biggest waste of car/power evar.

$20K+? Mine was $38K. I guess everyone assumes cars are bought used.

90TSiAWD
01-18-2010, 08:41 PM
4.10's, a stock clutch, 500rwtq at 2,00rpm, and street tires. Brilliant. Kick his ass.

Lol yeah I asked what clutch he had and he say's stock im like wow really?

Then he continues to say its good to over 700HP. I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Since it's gonna be a dig race I'd put my money on you. What's up with people driving high hp cars and not even throwing a set of drag radials on their car?

I have no clue. Lol

when is this going down? and i hope your gonna get a vid?

As soon as I get my tune...not really feeling a 125 shot on stock tune. Of course I will get a video. Lol

+1.

20k+ car, and can't afford $400 in drag radials. Biggest waste of car/power evar.

He paid 24K.

unit213
01-18-2010, 08:50 PM
Then he continues to say its good to over 700HP. I'm not sure if that's true or not.

Oh Lord...clearly the guy is clueless about his own car. The stock clutch
is good for about 450rwhp...for a while. It can't even hold that for very long.

90TSiAWD
01-18-2010, 08:53 PM
Oh Lord...clearly the guy is clueless about his own car. The stock clutch
is good for about 450rwhp...for a while. It can't even hold that for very long.

Excellent. I was pretty sure it was def not good to that much. When he told me he was buying it I asked if it had LT's on it and he said he didn't know. Wow.

FlashLCD33
01-19-2010, 02:46 PM
Yeah he just came from a 01 GT so it will be a huge jump for him and im not sure if he can drive or not.


$20K+? Mine was $38K. I guess everyone assumes cars are bought used.




He paid 24K.

You're right, I did assume, because I didn't know Cobras were made in 2010 so he could purchase a new one. And, my assumption of "20k+" was correct.

Kthxbi

unit213
01-19-2010, 07:44 PM
You're right, I did assume, because I didn't know Cobras were made in 2010 so he could purchase a new one. And, my assumption of "20k+" was correct.

Kthxbi

Ok, so I was mistaken. Congrats on being a dickhead about it. ;) :kiss:

Fatbum
01-19-2010, 07:56 PM
IF the Cobra makes 500+, I'd put my money on him. Except in the 1/8th.

FlashLCD33
01-19-2010, 08:31 PM
Ok, so I was mistaken. Congrats on being a dickhead about it. ;) :kiss:

:whip:

<3

01ssreda4
01-19-2010, 11:50 PM
Ok, so I was mistaken.

:bomb::jest:

OP you got this man, just film it so we can share in your victory. $20+K USED car with FI cant beat an f-body :D

ponygt65
01-21-2010, 02:18 PM
Excellent. I was pretty sure it was def not good to that much. When he told me he was buying it I asked if it had LT's on it and he said he didn't know. Wow.

HOly crap..........given his mentality, I want to change my answer to.....he has no chance no matter what. I have a hard time believing he knows how to drive that thing if he tells you that along with the clutch thing. HOly crap.

All the idiots get the cool cars, and I'm stuck with nothing. :eyes:

the jester 812
01-21-2010, 05:53 PM
^^^^its an unfair world pony

ponygt65
01-21-2010, 08:40 PM
^^^^its an unfair world pony

That it is my friend....that it is.:chug:

90TSiAWD
01-21-2010, 08:50 PM
I can't wait for this too happen but the tax return I was going to use to get my tax return I think I'm going to use it to buy a set of C6 Z06 wheels. Lol

FlashLCD33
01-21-2010, 09:53 PM
Yeah, they'll def make it quicker.

90TSiAWD
01-21-2010, 09:55 PM
Yeah, they'll def make it quicker.

Lol I wish i've been rolling stock 16" for awhile now. I could get a set of C5Z's and the tune its a hard choice!

Detoxx03
01-21-2010, 11:17 PM
I think from a dig you would win handsdown and you have a good chance from a roll too. I raced one from a roll the other day and he beat me by 1 1/2.

unit213
01-22-2010, 02:43 PM
$20+K USED car with FI cant beat an f-body :D

It has all the wrong mods. The car is working against itself. Why do I get
the feeling that people here think $20K is a lot for a car? :confused:
It must be the younger crowd due to fbodies being dirt cheap now.

ponygt65
01-22-2010, 06:11 PM
It has all the wrong mods. The car is working against itself. Why do I get
the feeling that people here think $20K is a lot for a car? :confused:
It must be the younger crowd due to fbodies being dirt cheap now.

I agree.....even given my situation I still think $20k isn't all that much. Hell, used gt500s are going for mid upper 30s around here. That's pretty cheap IMO.

01ssreda4
01-22-2010, 10:20 PM
It has all the wrong mods. The car is working against itself. Why do I get
the feeling that people here think $20K is a lot for a car? :confused:
It must be the younger crowd due to fbodies being dirt cheap now.

O the irony of it all, I found myself thinking this same thing just the other day. Maybe its old age showing its ugly face...:D

Ke^in
01-23-2010, 04:59 AM
It has all the wrong mods. The car is working against itself. Why do I get
the feeling that people here think $20K is a lot for a car? :confused:
It must be the younger crowd due to fbodies being dirt cheap now.

I am soon to be 37, and I didn't want to pay more than 12k for a used 8cyl just for a fun DD car. But that's just me. I never want to pay more than $15k for a car.