Road Racing - Power steering cooler for auto x?




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XtremeDime
01-20-2010, 03:01 AM
Is anyone running one? Up here our autocross runs last like 1.5 mins. I wouldnt imagine the PS would generate enough heat to require a cooler. Keep in my it is Alaska so imagine 60-70 degree temps. Thanks


myk
01-20-2010, 05:29 AM
One pass might not be enough to overheat the fluid, but I'd imagine that a typical car may be making repeated passes in a short period of time unless it's really busy that day. Run one just in case. Even if you don't need it, it's still a cool idea anyway...

SIK02SS
01-20-2010, 09:36 AM
I don't think you'll be needing one...and if you find or think you do, a factory one off an SS or WS6 should be plenty given your outdoor temps and brief session with time in between..


2000Z28M6
01-20-2010, 01:52 PM
Keep in mind the stock pump kind of over works the system. If you have an UD pulley it should help a little, by reducing the amount of flow.

If just AX'ing for peace of mind I would install a factory one. I've been running a Stock Cooler for almost a year now with no issues, this past summer averaging 101-109 heat.

Road Racing and lapping the car would probably require a decent aftermarket unit.

Dont forget the most important cooler the oil cooler :) good luck!

XtremeDime
01-20-2010, 02:01 PM
Cant run the stock PS cooler due to turbo placement. I bought a 17" frame rail mounted one last night. It was like 35$ shipped so no biggie.

01 ss vert
01-20-2010, 02:02 PM
for road racing I would say yes; autocross no.

EchoMirage
01-20-2010, 03:08 PM
cooler, NO you dont need one. a new pump? YES you do/will need one. especially if you have slicks.

dirtybird236
01-23-2010, 04:35 PM
Ok, so what's the best aftermarket pump? I'm in need of a new PS pump anyways and the car is all setup for autox. While the car is down I need to replace the pump and get a new catch can.

mitchntx
01-23-2010, 05:18 PM
I used Turn One for ever.

Then I found a place that will revalve your pump for ~$100. Send it to them and they will refurb it and return it to you. Usually takes a couple days. We have a 1/2 dozen of them in our client's race cars, both LS and LT based platforms and no one is complaining.

http://www.pscmotorsports.com/

dirtybird236
01-23-2010, 08:56 PM
thanks for the info, should i just shoot them an e-mail stating what I want?

mitchntx
01-23-2010, 10:29 PM
thanks for the info, should i just shoot them an e-mail stating what I want?

Yes, give them a call. Kelvin typically answers the phone. Tell them you want the road race specs they've given LAW Motorsports 4th gens.

MeentSS02
01-23-2010, 11:15 PM
Mitch - do you use that pump AND a cooler?

mitchntx
01-25-2010, 06:47 AM
I currently run a Turn One pump. I bought it a couple years before I discovered PSC. But the PSC pump refurb is the way to go IMHO.

The valving, pressure and flow rate is altered a little from TO pump specs. We've found them a little better yet.

I have a small, two pass PS cooler on my car. Probably not needed, though as I have also replaced the stock PS reservoir (remember, I'm running an LT1) with a higher capacity, KRC aluminum oil tank. The tank itself transfers heat better than the plastic and I have about 1/2 quart more capcity which helps as well.

I wonder if PSC can install an AN fitting on the top of an LSx pump so that a remote tank can be used? I've never asked.

urock NO IROC88
02-16-2010, 06:56 AM
awesome info mitch, i believe one of your Camaro's is on my GRM calender at work :)

mitchntx
02-16-2010, 07:57 AM
LOL ... Mr. February.

Actually Glenn and I are co-conspirators ... ;)

MrEddie
02-23-2010, 02:17 PM
I've been autoxing a turn one pump since last year. My stock pump was whining and would vent fluid out the cap after each run. The turn one is quiet and dry! Of course a turn one pump will bump you out of Fstock I believe....

CarsandWomen
05-15-2011, 05:14 AM
so no real suggestions for a cooler? I was figuring this would be an easy one...

FASTFATBOY
05-15-2011, 05:56 AM
http://www.frrax.com/rrforum/index.php?showtopic=14903

Mount it in the lower right of the fan shroud, if you dont have a hole there cut one.

CarsandWomen
05-16-2011, 02:07 AM
lol my whole front end is different from stock but ill find a place to put it. that cooler goes on the return side right? any issues with it pushing the fluid that far?

I had seen that in my searches but was hoping I could get one with AN lines rather than rubber hose and clamps

skorpion317
05-16-2011, 08:45 PM
Here's my Turn One pump and cooler install:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/1423877-turn-one-power-steering-pump-cooler-install.html

c5z28
06-07-2011, 11:27 PM
Works better on Camaro's but here is mine. This one is actually for the trans the powersteering is on the other side:D Don't quote me but as I recall the hose was 3/8" and I just got away with using 5' of the the stuff.
And don't mind the filth I have since cleaned it and let it get dirty again.

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo347/c5z28/Image0083.jpg