Negative Trader Feedback - ---- Look out for 98TA6.0 ----
fergymoto
01-26-2010, 02:26 PM
Jason Miller
3355 Claire Ln Apt 610
Jacksonville, FL 32223
US
972-746-8598
On December 19, 2009 I purchased a set of 243 LS6 heads from Jason Miller, AKA 98ta6.0 on here. They were described as having Manley valves, Isky double springs, spring locators, titanium retainers, and tool steel locks. They were said to be in excellent condition.
When I received the cylinder heads on 12-23-09, I proceeded to look them over and noticed that the valve tips were very worn out. I'm not talking a little bit of wear, I'm talking a groove on the step tip. Not good. So I take the cylinder heads apart to clean all the components and install new seals, and do something about these worn out valves.
As it turns out, they aren't even Manley valves, nor even LS6 valves. They are regular stock valves that come in LS2 243s and LS1 241s.
On 12-28-09 I notified Jason and told him about the issues, and asked him what we could do. He replied with 3 ideas to work something out.
-He offered me a set of 2.020 and 1.600 valves that would not fit
-I could send the heads back at my cost and get my $600 back
-He would give me $150 towards a new set of valves and machine work
Option number 1 was no good.
Option number two wasn't any good either really. I already had money tied up in shipping them from Florida to my home in PA, and I already had time and money tied up in disassembling and cleaning the cylinder heads and all the parts from them, and having my local machine shop check out the valves. On top of that, it was the 28th of December and the following weekend I was moving to NC for school. The motor and the car HAD to be done. I bought these cylinder heads in the first place because they were supposed to be in excellent runable condition and I was under the impression I might have to clean them and put new seals on them while they were apart at most.
Option number 3 was my best bet given the circumstances of time and money already tied up in the heads, and the time constraint I was under to get the car done. So I notified him and said I would go with option 3 and take the $150 refund.
At first he said he couldn't give me the refund until the 1st of January when the money would post in his bank account. The 2nd rolls around, no money yet. I contact him and he says he is having problems with his PayPal account, and he will send me the money as soon as it is fixed. I contacted him every couple days and he just kept giving me the run around.
By January 15th I still had no money from him and he was not replying to my PMs although he was online several times a day, and had other items for sale in the LS1Tech classifieds. He was even accepting PayPal for payments! This is when I decided to open a dispute on PayPal.
That got me nowhere. He still will not reply to my PMs on tech and clearly has no intention of giving me the partial refund he promised. I gave him plenty of time up until the 15th to give me a refund. I waited until TODAY... TWO DAYS SHORT OF A MONTH to do anything at all that might make him look bad.
He has a turbo build going on, he is buying and selling parts, he is actively using PayPay, but he can't send me the $150 refund he promised, much less reply to my PMs.
I would recommend that nobody deal with this guy or you may wind up with a story like mine.
Oh and the last thing he said about the cylinder heads and the junk valves was "My car was running fine when I removed them, I regularly took it up to 7400rpm with no issues" I believe that. You can tell by looking at the trashed valves. Anyone that knows even the basics of valvetrain geometry and tip wear would know that they WERE NOT in good runable condition. Not only were they worn out junk, they were not Manley like he said either.
fergymoto
01-26-2010, 02:27 PM
Oh and Jason, if you give me my refund I will not leave you negative feedback on iTrader. I think that is pretty damn generous.
BLNLS1/RX7
01-26-2010, 02:29 PM
Put a freeze on his PayPal account until your satisfied.
fergymoto
01-26-2010, 02:30 PM
How can I go about doing that?
brianfromhawaii
01-26-2010, 03:26 PM
file a claim against him.. and escalate to dispute
BLNLS1/RX7
01-26-2010, 03:53 PM
How can I go about doing that?
Go to your PayPal account and it will show your transaction with the seller and then you just file the claim on that web site.
fergymoto
01-30-2010, 05:07 PM
No luck with PayPal. This guy logs in every day and hasn't even made a response in here.
98TA6.0
01-30-2010, 07:25 PM
this guy doesnt have his facts straight. i have dealt with plenty of people on here. all of which are satisfied and smooth business transactions. you arent satisfied and i did everything i could to fix it but i'm not gonna screw myself just to make you happy. i sold them in perfect working order. i took them off days before i mailed them to ya and looked them over before i sent them. they werent up to your insanely high standards and you want some money back. no way man. i'm glad to hear you finished your build and i wish you best of luck with school but you seriously have to stop posting on my threads. i will have to speak with some mods if you continue. that is harassment and i will not tolerate it.
fergymoto
01-30-2010, 07:39 PM
Would you care to point out which of my facts are not straight?
Just because your car ran does not mean they were in perfect working order. I sent you pictures of the valves and I have saved PMs of you offering me the three different options. I have saved PMs where you say you are sending me the $150!
What did you do to fix the problem? You offered to do things. What did you actually come through with on your word and actually do? NOTHING.
Go ahead and talk to the mods, see who's side they take. I have 5x the trader ratings you do, I have pictures of the valves, I have saved PMs from you. Every single one of them. Good luck!
MUSTANGBRKR02
01-30-2010, 07:42 PM
If they were messed up and you offered to make it right then didn't he has a right to warn other people of short comings and bad business possibilities.
fergymoto
01-30-2010, 07:44 PM
Do these valves look like MANLEY valves to anyone?
Does this worn out, deformed, grooved valve stem tip look runable to anyone here?!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/JUNKVALVES005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/JUNKVALVES004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/JUNKVALVES003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/JUNKVALVES002.jpg
How about the tips working their way out of the valve stems? Does that look like it would last long?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/JUNKVALVES001.jpg
fergymoto
01-30-2010, 08:16 PM
Wait for it... wait for it....
Manley valves
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/pm1.jpg
Offers to refund me $150, offers to let me send them back for a full refund (not really any option for me by that point because of my move), and offers me a set of Manley 2.02-160 valves that he already has which will not work in these heads.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/pm2.jpg
Says he is still waiting on PayPal to straighten out his account, which at this point I'm sure was a lie
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/pm3.jpg
Yet another one of his excuses. He says this as he is buying and selling parts here on Tech every week
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/pm4.jpg
Here is where he goes back on his word in the PayPal dispute, which got me nowhere. Thanks PayPal!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/ppdispute.jpg
Now there are the FACTS!
fergymoto
01-31-2010, 11:24 AM
Well Jason, where ya at?
98TA6.0
01-31-2010, 05:46 PM
oh so dramatic in here huh? i am not paying you the 150 for the above stated reasons. there's my answer. sorry you arent satisfied. i wish we could have resolved this another way. take care bud.
(i have no idea why i keep bumping this up)
fergymoto
01-31-2010, 05:57 PM
You never really stated any reasons other than my I had my facts wrong? I proved the facts right, now what is your reason?
hevymetalg
02-02-2010, 06:05 PM
Just give that guy half the $150.00= $75.00 and call it even.:engarde:
MUSTANGBRKR02
02-02-2010, 08:34 PM
give him bad feedback and deny the charge or part of it on your cc and get it back that way.
BLNLS1/RX7
02-03-2010, 10:42 AM
Man up and give him back his money.
fergymoto
02-03-2010, 02:27 PM
I wanted to give him yet another chance before leaving bad feedback on his name. He's running out of time.
87silverbullet
02-03-2010, 03:53 PM
I usually don't reply in this section but were talking about a measly $150.00 bucks here! Those valves are bad. Give the man his money.
You wouldn't run those valves in your motor so why should he? Are you that poor that you can't up 150 bucks like you promised?
fergymoto
02-03-2010, 05:19 PM
Not only are they bad... they aren't even Manley valves. I wouldn't have even raised an issue about it in the first place if they were at least usable stock valves but they were far from it.
fergymoto
02-05-2010, 02:32 PM
Clearly Jason is not going to man up and do the right thing so I went ahead and left him the negative feedback he deserves.
BLNLS1/RX7
02-05-2010, 03:36 PM
Clearly Jason is not going to man up and do the right thing so I went ahead and left him the negative feedback he deserves.
Very sorry that you got ripped off by this guy.
fergymoto
02-05-2010, 05:05 PM
Yup, thanks. Nothing can be done about it I guess. Learning experience.
jim1450
02-06-2010, 06:12 AM
I have made several purchases on here that I used paypal(which I dont like) & learned a few things. I bought a motor for $6700 which really woried me because of how far away it was & the money came ouy of my checking account. I used my Visa check card on paypal becase paypal doesnt really give buyer protection, if I got screwed I had the option to dispute it like a credit card. I did pay the 3% fee though but that may have been my mistake, there are several ways to send the payment.
I later got screwed by calguy on here & was able to dispute the charge & get a refund.
fergymoto
02-06-2010, 09:43 AM
When I bought these heads, all the money came from my PayPal balance. So I'm screwed. There is nothing I can do. PayPal was no help.
PayPalsucks.com
BLNLS1/RX7
02-06-2010, 11:20 AM
I made a $1300 purschase back in Dec. and had a problem with the seller shipping the parts. I also paid thur PayPal which is connected to my checking account.When the parts did not show up as promised I just filed a claim thur PayPal and they put a hold on the sellers account until I recieved my parts.Once the parts arrived I setteled the dispute and the money was released to him.
jim1450
02-06-2010, 12:18 PM
I made a $1300 purschase back in Dec. and had a problem with the seller shipping the parts. I also paid thur PayPal which is connected to my checking account.When the parts did not show up as promised I just filed a claim thur PayPal and they put a hold on the sellers account until I recieved my parts.Once the parts arrived I setteled the dispute and the money was released to him.
You are lucky, there was a good sticky on paypal but I dont see it now that they changed the classified section.
fergymoto
02-06-2010, 01:56 PM
Yeah you're real lucky man. PayPal doesn't work out in favor for a lot of people.
hevymetalg
02-06-2010, 04:20 PM
Is their anything else besides paypal?
jim1450
02-06-2010, 07:00 PM
Is their anything else besides paypal?
I think in the sticky on paypal some were using other services, I think google maybe. Search for the thread, it has some good info.
Mr. CPG Trans Am
02-06-2010, 07:51 PM
what a jerk 98ta is. i hope no one else deals with him, so he can see what karma is.
fergymoto
02-06-2010, 10:57 PM
I think he thought he'd be alright, but this thread is about up to 650 views and I post a link to it his for sale threads when I see that he makes a new one. My guess would be that business isn't too good.
nasty2000z28
02-06-2010, 11:29 PM
down with dirty sellers! i hate ppl like that. its bs ppl hide behind their keyboard and dont man up and keep their word. best of luck to you man and hopefully paypal wises up and fixes this jerk off. if hes screwed you then hes screwed more.
Wicked94Z
02-07-2010, 01:49 AM
hmmmm.... TTT!
fergymoto
03-02-2010, 10:15 AM
Just saw you guys' posts. I haven't checked this in a while. Things were never made right by the seller and I don't expect them to be.
BES Stroked Nova
03-02-2010, 12:33 PM
is he on the do not trade list?
cause he needs to be added
fergymoto
03-02-2010, 05:05 PM
Not sure. Where is the do not trade list?
Z28/2002
03-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Not sure. Where is the do not trade list?
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/negative-trader-feedback/153014-official-bad-trader-list-please-add-new-bad-traders.html
fergymoto
04-20-2010, 06:15 PM
More good news on this!
I haven't put a thousand miles on my new motor yet and have already broken a valve spring shifting at only 6700rpm. I got very lucky and didn't drop the valve even though both the inner and outer spring broke. I pulled the head and it just kissed the piston very lightly and I checked the valve, which is bent very slightly. One new valve and a new set of springs and I will be back in business.
My own fault for buying used parts of this nature. I doubt I will do it again.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/2001%20WS6/brokenvalvespring002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/ferg106/2001%20WS6/brokenvalvespring003.jpg
chevyman9306
04-20-2010, 07:00 PM
man sounds like you should redo the entire vavletrain!!! WoW sorry to hear about this!!!
fergymoto
04-20-2010, 07:24 PM
Yeah basically for $600 I got some 243 castings with locks, retainers, and locators.
Beaflag VonRathburg
04-29-2010, 06:27 PM
I am sorry that you had to go through this. I've had a couple semi dealings with 98TA6.0 and I will only call them that because he never came through on anything.
Originally, I had a 6.0 block for sale for a long time. We both live roughly in the same area. Jacksonville, Fl is the largest land area city in the continental US. You can drive an over an hour and still be in Jacksonville. I don't remember the exact dates as this was a while ago and I have since deleted all of the PMs. I was asked the condition of the block, basic info, etc, and I replied. We worked out that he would call me when he wanted to come pick it up. Well, a week goes by and I receive no call, PM, or information. He then PMs me again saying that he had issues with his car and he would come get it again. Sure enough nothing ever comes of this.
I didn't have an issue with this because it has happened quite a few times in regards to selling things. People always say they'll send you money and they never do. The one that really got me was my next semi dealing with him. He was selling a 94 Formula that he had received from another member that lives about an hour away. I was originally interested in it when it was for sale. 98TA6.0 sent me a PM asking if I would be interested in trading the set of AFR 225 heads I owned at the time for the car.
I said I would, but I'd like to check the car out. We arranged to meet at a place roughly in the middle of where we both lived in the morning. I wasn't aware of it at the time, but we were meeting at Walmart on Black Friday. I had to work the Thursday night from 11pm to 7am that morning on Friday, go home, change, and then drive 30 minutes to meet at 8am. Sure enough, I made it there a little before 8am. I didn't have his phone number, but he had mine so I figured he would call me and we would meet. I told him I'd be driving my red 95 camaro and he'd be driving the Formula. I ended up being there for right around an hour and a half. I looked all over the parking lot, drove around, etc before I sent him a PM wondering where he was, that I was upset about wasting my time, and gas money.
I never got a response out of that one, so I sent him a PM again asking if he was still interested. I never got a reply from either, but sure enough he listed the car for sale a few days later. I typed out a response basically saying, "If someone wants to look at the car will you actually show up or make them drive 30 minutes one way, say you'll be there, not show, and then make them drive 30 minutes home like you did to me?" My response was the first or second one and he deleted the thread. He made another one and I typed out the same response after waiting a day or two so it could get going a bit. He promptly deleted that thread too.
I have resolutely decided that I will never buy, sell, trade, or give anything to this guy. He's done me wrong once, twice if you count the block, and he got you too. I just though I'd share that.
anheuserbusch08
04-30-2010, 01:38 PM
nom nom nom :D
fergymoto
05-03-2010, 09:46 PM
Sorry to hear about your wasted time and money too Beaflag. Sounds like that's the kind of guy he is. I'm starting to feel lucky the heads even showed up LOL.
After he burned me I just started posting a link to this thread in every classified add he posted and after deleting and making new ones only to have me post again, he ended up disappearing for the most part. Probably just under another username.
In the search for new springs I took measurements of the locators and retainers to try and find a spring that would work with them. For the life of me I couldn't find a spring that was compatible, or retainers and locators that matched the measurements of mine. Phil @ AI tried too and couldn't come up with anything. 98TA6.0 claimed they were Isky, but there is is nothing in Isky, Comp, Manley, PSI, etc catalogs that match so who knows what the hell they were. I ended up having to buy new springs, retainers, locators, and locks. So all said and done I have a $600 set of 243 castings. Sucks!
98TA6.0
05-29-2010, 09:32 PM
man what can i say you bought used parts that were in perfect working order when i sent them. now stop your damn crying. if you wanted a warranty then used parts arent the ones to use then huh? lesson learned. i'm glad those heads didnt take a dump on my motor. well best of luck to ya and once again i sincerely apologize for all the trouble i caused you. just the way things go sometimes. sorry bro.
98RedBird
05-30-2010, 02:02 AM
This guy sounds like a complete tool...
Sorry to hear about your troubles Fergy. How you doing otherwise? I see you got another T/A, how come you're selling?
00ls6camaro
05-30-2010, 08:57 AM
96ta6.0 you clearly ripped him off.man up and admit it.its OK because the damage is done.fergymoto don't worry ,there is such a thing as carma.he just hasn't ripped the right person off yet and trust me he will keep doing so until he dose.hopefully the asswhupin he gets will teach him a lesson that will haunt him for the rest of his life.liars and thieves live in a me world.
fergymoto
05-31-2010, 01:44 PM
This guy sounds like a complete tool...
Sorry to hear about your troubles Fergy. How you doing otherwise? I see you got another T/A, how come you're selling?
I'm doing good man. I see you got a new car. I like it a lot!
I have too many vehicles and my '97 WS6 was my first car. I have a lot of history in it and am somewhat attached to it, so it is the one I want to keep. Probably shouldn't have bought another car in the first place after the 98 got wrecked. I got that 2001 WS6 though. I'm just going to be putting it back to somewhat stock and selling it.
jks67ss396
05-16-2011, 06:40 PM
nevermind
qc97z
05-17-2011, 08:39 AM
man what can i say you bought used parts that were in perfect working order when i sent them. now stop your damn crying. if you wanted a warranty then used parts arent the ones to use then huh? lesson learned. i'm glad those heads didnt take a dump on my motor. well best of luck to ya and once again i sincerely apologize for all the trouble i caused you. just the way things go sometimes. sorry bro.
Wow...why aren't you banned yet?
This is ridiculous.
1) Components in the heads were not as described - FRAUD on your part
2) Valves were screwed and not in decent shape at all - FRAUD on your part
3) You offer to make things right for $150 refund, which is a super lowball offer, and you didn't even make good on that. That warrants an ass-kicking for sure.
4) You get defensive and just tell him "tough shit" and refuse to make things right at all. You're an ignorant bastard.
:ban::ban::ban::ban:
98TA6.0
05-18-2011, 07:40 PM
Wow...why aren't you banned yet?
This is ridiculous.
1) Components in the heads were not as described - FRAUD on your part
2) Valves were screwed and not in decent shape at all - FRAUD on your part
3) You offer to make things right for $150 refund, which is a super lowball offer, and you didn't even make good on that. That warrants an ass-kicking for sure.
4) You get defensive and just tell him "tough shit" and refuse to make things right at all. You're an ignorant bastard.
wow lots of internet tough guys around here.
1) not fraud. they were as described. oh wait i didnt know because i didnt disassemble them and inspect everything.
2) valves were working fine when removed from my vehicle. they were a little worn.
3) he actually was the one to bring the 150 refund up. not me. you wanna warrant an ass kicking? I welcome it big man.
4) i have no choice but to get defensive when retards on the other side of the fence wanna add their two cents (that would be you). you should look up the definition of ignorant. you a very stupid person. you can look that up as well.
Now piss off.
99FormulaM6
05-18-2011, 07:57 PM
You say he should suck it up because the valves were fine and just a little worn, but they weren't the right valves to begin with. Now you say you didn't disassemble them to find out for sure, but you didn't have a problem describing them as a specific brand.
What if someone advertised a set of Eibach lowering springs for sale, and someone bought them, then that person gets them and finds they are just cut, stock springs? Should they suck it up because they still lower the car? Clearly they aren't Eibach, but they do achieve the same action as a set of Eibach springs...
You might not have been the one to bring up the $150, but you agreed to it. It has been a long time since this happened, so I am sure nothing will ever be done to make this right, but I know I would never deal with you after reading this, and I hope all potential buyers read this thread as well.
98TA6.0
05-18-2011, 08:33 PM
You say he should suck it up because the valves were fine and just a little worn, but they weren't the right valves to begin with. Now you say you didn't disassemble them to find out for sure, but you didn't have a problem describing them as a specific brand.
What if someone advertised a set of Eibach lowering springs for sale, and someone bought them, then that person gets them and finds they are just cut, stock springs? Should they suck it up because they still lower the car? Clearly they aren't Eibach, but they do achieve the same action as a set of Eibach springs...
You might not have been the one to bring up the $150, but you agreed to it. It has been a long time since this happened, so I am sure nothing will ever be done to make this right, but I know I would never deal with you after reading this, and I hope all potential buyers read this thread as well.
i was told they were Manley valves from the person i bought them from. you're analogy is terrible by the way. if i cut the srpings and said they were eibach that's is a lying. i was misinformed and didnt lie. hey man no problem, by the above post you seem like a whiny person anyway.
zspot98
05-18-2011, 08:55 PM
If you wanted a warranty then used parts arent the ones to use then huh? lesson learned. i'm glad those heads didnt take a dump on my motor. well best of luck to ya and once again i sincerely apologize for all the trouble i caused you. just the way things go sometimes. sorry bro.
This whole statement is very disappointing IMO, especially the bolded part. I guess this is why there are so may folks getting ripped off now a days. People don't seem to have a sense of integrity anymore. I have been doing business on tech for awhile and for some reason it seems more sour deals have been happening lately. I know if something was misrepresented to me and I sold it to another person I would make things right with my consumer and then take my issues to the original seller.
I wish, for the sake of your fellow car enthusiast's you'd make this right somehow, but after reading this thread I sincerely doubt it. I guess the only thing I can do is try and raise my son to have more respect for others and himself.
-End Rant
Mike
99FormulaM6
05-19-2011, 06:55 AM
i was told they were Manley valves from the person i bought them from. you're analogy is terrible by the way. if i cut the srpings and said they were eibach that's is a lying. i was misinformed and didnt lie. hey man no problem, by the above post you seem like a whiny person anyway.
So if you bought a car with those springs on them and the person told you they were Eibach, then its ok? Because you were told they were?
Whiny? You claim to be misinformed by the person who sold you the heads...I can believe that. However, now you pass your misfortune along to someone else and expect them to eat it? How is that right? You clearly have no ethics and it will bite you in the ass later on.
qc97z
05-19-2011, 10:09 AM
wow lots of internet tough guys around here.
1) not fraud. they were as described. oh wait i didnt know because i didnt disassemble them and inspect everything.
2) valves were working fine when removed from my vehicle. they were a little worn.
3) he actually was the one to bring the 150 refund up. not me. you wanna warrant an ass kicking? I welcome it big man.
4) i have no choice but to get defensive when retards on the other side of the fence wanna add their two cents (that would be you). you should look up the definition of ignorant. you a very stupid person. you can look that up as well.
Now piss off.
Wow man.
1) Yes, it was fraudulent. You advertised the valves and springs to be something they weren't. Whether you were misinformed by the person that sold them to you or not, the responsibility to know the product you were selling was on you.
2) Whether they were working "fine" or not is irrelevant. They were not worthy of being used again, especially when things are torn down. Would you tear a motor apart and re-use a cam that had lobe damage? Absolutely not.
3) No matter who brought up the refund, you still didn't do it. And I'm not the one that should kick your ass, the guy you sold to should. But, if you're ever in my area, bring it on. I'll show you a thing or two.
4) My $.02 is my right to post, that's why this is a public forum. And I definitely do know the definition of ignorant...it's you.
I'm stupid? Wow...there must be lots of stupid people that are professional engineers with Master's degrees out there...
Own up to the fact that you blew this deal. You screwed up, took a completely hands-off approach to all of the issues, and won't accept responsibility. Be a man and admit your wrongdoing.
mrnorm_hemicide
05-19-2011, 11:05 AM
Its just sad that because of assholes like 98ta6.0 we all have to be nervous and paranoid everytime we buy used parts. If frauds like him didn't exist the whole buying/selling experience would be 1000x more enjoyable. I guess I don't understand what prompts a person to actively screw over a fellow enthusiast, and then act like a complete jackass about it. Maybe its genetic?
TheBlueKnight
05-20-2011, 11:56 AM
Ok, so you didn't know the parts were wrong on the heads because you didn't tear them down. My question is why did you say you would give him the $150 and then back out? I see you have other good trader ratings and you didn't seem like the kind of guy who would shaft someone like that.
You didn't know it didn't have the right parts. Fine
You didn't know the parts would fail. Fine
You told him you would get him $150. Do what you said you would. BE A DECENT PERSON
98TA6.0
05-20-2011, 02:47 PM
Ok, so you didn't know the parts were wrong on the heads because you didn't tear them down. My question is why did you say you would give him the $150 and then back out? I see you have other good trader ratings and you didn't seem like the kind of guy who would shaft someone like that.
You didn't know it didn't have the right parts. Fine
You didn't know the parts would fail. Fine
You told him you would get him $150. Do what you said you would. BE A DECENT PERSON
thank you for some sort of consideration bro. during that period you can imagine things were said and some threats were made. now if you were me and some guy was saying some rude and mean things to you, would you be quick to meet him halfway? when he first called me he was a great stand up guy, then things just kinda went south. every single one of my other transactions have gone smoothly. I am not some monster who is out to rob everyone in here and start punching out kids. I'm kinda thinking on just sending this guy back his 150 bucks just to get this thread deleted. I may have said some things that were offensive to FergyMoto and I sincerely apologize for my childish actions. I understand we are all men here and tend to act like apes now and again.
TheBlueKnight
05-20-2011, 03:05 PM
I'm kinda thinking on just sending this guy back his 150 bucks just to get this thread deleted.
I don't know what hurtful things may have been said but that sounds good, just send him the money and get this thread deleted. Don't think of it as doing it to please him, (I'm sure hurtful things were exchanged and your not happy with him at all), but think of it as you keeping your word as you always do because that's the kind of person you are.
Whatever happens I hope you guys can work it out, take care.
camaroboy14
05-22-2011, 04:43 PM
Wow I would be pissed. ..98 6.0 ur too funny bro I mean u sell a fellow member here junk! Then the parts are Not what u said they where! U say Its not ur fault/problem Because ur dumb ass believed the person you got them from! Wow bro serious ur full of crap!!!! That's a low move! If I did that I would feel like a douche! I hope u give him that 150!
Oh and I ain't no tough Guy, I don't think no one here is trying to be besides u..by fucking people out of their money with ur b.s!!!!
Rare96LT1Formula
05-23-2011, 08:50 AM
Buying used parts is a risk, no doubt. There is no warranty, and nobody to file a claim with in most cases. That, I can understand. The fact that the valves were beat to shit, and not even the Manley valves you claimed....well, that's on you bro.
Just refund him his $150. That's more than reasonable. Hell, maybe you can even save your iTrader rating. The market on ebay for F-body parts isn't nearly as strong as it is here.
bigboykilroy
05-24-2011, 10:37 AM
98TA6.0 You offered the guy $150.00 back to make things right.
You need to stand by your word and send they guy back the 150 that you offered.
lizeec
06-11-2011, 02:21 PM
This is a tough one as everyone's description of a good used part is different I have sold some items that I thought were in fair shape and useable only to be told it is junk and why did I not describe it better and tell about the hardly noticeable scratch on the part. I have also sold parts that I described as being in good shape only to be told the part is in excellent shape and they have never seen such a nice used part? And I have bought items described as in good shape to find out it is junk. Eiher way Shit happens make it right, treat people like you want to be treated and do the right thing and you will sleep much better at night, and when you are at home you can answer the front door without worrying about getting a bat in your face or the cops asking to speak to you. And when you walk the streets you don't have to keep looking around to see who looks like they are getting ready to kick your ass. Sometimes we win sometimes we lose even if you feel like you are getting screwed oh well that amount of money aint going to make or break anyone. Do the right thing!
fergymoto
06-11-2011, 03:59 PM
I decided to cut my losses on this guy a long time ago. I don't believe he ever had any intention on paying. Thanks though guys
lizeec
06-11-2011, 09:26 PM
I hear ya, either way what goes around comes around and his will come back to haunt either him or someone close in his family.
Jim_PA
06-12-2011, 09:27 PM
So if you bought a car with those springs on them and the person told you they were Eibach, then its ok? Because you were told they were?
For whatever reason, some people don't feel responsible when they sell something second-hand as "brand X", "lightly used", "rebuilt", "works great" etc.
It tells a lot about the individual when it turns out that they have no idea the brand, condition or age of what they are selling, and they are basing all their data off some other douche bag, and passing the bad deal onto you. Then they don't give a shit when it turns out that it's not what they said it was, and all you get in return is the "oh, well that's what I was told it was, so it's not my problem" --- BULLSHIT!
I find it sad ... Fuking losers.
Bought my T56 here, bought it as a "rebuilt" unit. No 3rd, 4th or reverse, got the same line you did "Oh, well I was told it was rebuilt".. Got $150 back, but that's not close to what I should have received. :bang:
Ok, I'm done now